What if developers learned everything about the PS3?

I want everyone's views on what the PS3 would be like if the developers learned everything about the system and stopped converting XBOX games to PS3. Its the same principal as converting HD tv to a standard def tv, its down grading and almost wrong haha jk :P. So lets get it started??????:lol: haha better

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Intelligent discussion cannot occur when people are stuffing themselves silly and playing mindless videogames.

sorry. :P

Haha so true guys, i just realize the powerhouse inside of the PS3 and how games like Uncharted 2 just now bringing out some of the possibilities it can push even with its awards. when you compare the same games with multi platformers, they create the game for the 360 then just shove it to PS3 im fine with that just dont know why a developer wouldnt want to learn how to push what they love doing to the next level we have never seen????

I want everyone's views on what the PS3 would be like if the developers learned everything about the system and stopped converting XBOX games to PS3. Its the same principal as converting HD tv to a standard def tv, its down grading and almost wrong haha jk :P. So lets get it started??????:lol: haha better

FLYNHAWAIIN

Well then basically we will have most of our games looking like KZ2, MGS4, or UC2 and most likely even betterGeneralHawx

[QUOTE="GeneralHawx"]Well then basically we will have most of our games looking like KZ2, MGS4, or UC2 and most likely even betterFLYNHAWAIIN

There are few studios who know how to push the PS3 to it's limit. Namely Insomniac Games, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Polyphony Digital, Guerilla Games and probably Quantic Dream.

You think some genuis would develop a program

to convert any PC/Xbux coded game to PS3 coding.

Using a supercomputer it should be possible. And take weeks, not months.

Edit: Just woke up. Found myself typing in my sleep.

Game developers need to know everything about the system before they even begin to work on a game. :|

...and multiplat games are never going to reach the standard of exclusives.Adziboy

As has always been the case. And will continue to be the case for as long as there is different hardware in each console. :P

Game developers need to know everything about the system before they even begin to work on a game. :|

Shad0ki11

When matching up the hardware the Xbox 360 video card Xenos is a more powerful video card of the two witch also benefits from direct access to a unsegmented pool of 512MB of memory. The PS3 RSX video card is a generation behind as far as PC video cards go being based upon the NVIDIA 7800 and is further affected by the segmented memory and 128 bit bus. However where the ps3 has an advantage is with the CELL and its 6 available SPU's. The PPU of the cell generally takes care of the standard CPU stuff but the SPU's can be utilized to handle functions typically reserved for the GPU. So in effect the ps3 has a GPU and a CPU/GPU hybrid processor where as the 360 is a simply a more standard with a distinct CPU GPU set up that you would find in a PC. The 360 is much easier to program due to its likeness to a PC. Its also much easier to port a game between the 360 and PC. Which is likely why developers like valve make games exclusively for the 360 and PC. As the cost to migrate is minimal but the added exposure is large. Often to take advantage of the ps3's unique architecture and make the game look as good or better then the 360 version then often you have to rebuild the entire game from scratch. Just as they did with Ninja Gaiden 2. Infinity Ward develops art and a story then separates into two teams. One builds the game for the 360 where as the other builds the game for the ps3. This is the reason why COD4 & COD6 look so similar between the two consoles. You may also notice that the camera angles are a little different on each during cinematic as they were in effect directed by different people. Naughty Dog did an excellent job building their games to take full advantage of the ps3. They did that by offloading many advanced GPU functions to the cells SPU's opening up the GPU to draw more polys.

In this article you can read and see some of what naughty dog did to optimize their game for the cell

In this article you can read how Tecmo rebuild Ninja Gaiden 2 to take advantage of the ps3

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Game developers need to know everything about the system before they even begin to work on a game. :|

Symphonycometh

When matching up the hardware the Xbox 360 video card Xenos is a more powerful video card of the two witch also benefits from direct access to a unsegmented pool of 512MB of memory. The PS3 RSX video card is a generation behind as far as PC video cards go being based upon the NVIDIA 7800 and is further affected by the segmented memory and 128 bit bus. However where the ps3 has an advantage is with the CELL and its 6 available SPU's. The PPU of the cell generally takes care of the standard CPU stuff but the SPU's can be utilized to handle functions typically reserved for the GPU. So in effect the ps3 has a GPU and a CPU/GPU hybrid processor where as the 360 is a simply a more standard with a distinct CPU GPU set up that you would find in a PC. The 360 is much easier to program due to its likeness to a PC. Its also much easier to port a game between the 360 and PC. Which is likely why developers like valve make games exclusively for the 360 and PC. As the cost to migrate is minimal but the added exposure is large. Often to take advantage of the ps3's unique architecture and make the game look as good or better then the 360 version then often you have to rebuild the entire game from scratch. Just as they did with Ninja Gaiden 2. Infinity Ward develops art and a story then separates into two teams. One builds the game for the 360 where as the other builds the game for the ps3. This is the reason why COD4 & COD6 look so similar between the two consoles. You may also notice that the camera angles are a little different on each during cinematic as they were in effect directed by different people. Naughty Dog did an excellent job building their games to take full advantage of the ps3. They did that by offloading many advanced GPU functions to the cells SPU's opening up the GPU to draw more polys.

In this article you can read and see some of what naughty dog did to optimize their game for the cell

In this article you can read how Tecmo rebuild Ninja Gaiden 2 to take advantage of the ps3

Efaustus9

I have no qualms about comparing multi platform titles. As it is beneficial to owners of both consoles to know which version of the title will provide the better experience. Some times the two are very close (e.g. COD 6, burnout paradise), many times the 360 version is superior (e.g. bayonetta, assassins creed) and on a occasion the ps3 version wins out (e.g. dragon age, saboteur). Seldom with the multi platform titles do you see the developer wring all the potencial out of the console. Exclusive titles I think give a better indication of what a console is capable of. Right now some of the best looking console games reside on the ps3. This is largely thanks to 1st and 2nd party developers learning how to take advantage of the spu's not just for AI and physics but acting as a ancillary gpu as well.

I have no qualms about comparing multi platform titles. As it is beneficial to owners of both consoles to know which version of the title will provide the better experience. Some times the two are very close (e.g. COD 6, burnout paradise), many times the 360 version is superior (e.g. bayonetta, assassins creed) and on a occasion the ps3 version wins out (e.g. dragon age, saboteur). Seldom with the multi platform titles do you see the developer wring all the potencial out of the console. Exclusive titles I think give a better indication of what a console is capable of. Right now some of the best looking console games right now reside on the ps3. This is largely thanks to 1st and 2nd party developers learning how to take advantage of the spu's not just for AI and physics but acting as a ancillary gpu as well.

Efaustus9

[QUOTE="Efaustus9"]

I have no qualms about comparing multi platform titles. As it is beneficial to owners of both consoles to know which version of the title will provide the better experience. Some times the two are very close (e.g. COD 6, burnout paradise), many times the 360 version is superior (e.g. bayonetta, assassins creed) and on a occasion the ps3 version wins out (e.g. dragon age, saboteur). Seldom with the multi platform titles do you see the developer wring all the potencial out of the console. Exclusive titles I think give a better indication of what a console is capable of. Right now some of the best looking console games right now reside on the ps3. This is largely thanks to 1st and 2nd party developers learning how to take advantage of the spu's not just for AI and physics but acting as a ancillary gpu as well.

FLYNHAWAIIN

Exclusives tend to give the best indication of what a console it capable of. The exclusives are tailored to take advantage of the hardware's strengths while playing down its weaknesses. It is however difficult to do an apples to apples comparison of exclusive titles like you can with multi platformers. The parity of the multi plat title will often vary based upon the developers and their development choices. If they first build the game for the 360 hardware and then try to port the code over to the ps3 the quality will often suffer greatly (e.g. byonetta, assassins creed). Titles tend to fair better going the other way as the xenos is the more powerful gpu and seldom do 3rd party developers optimize for the cell as an ancillary GPU to make up for the shortcomings of the RSX. I wouldn't say one console is distinctly better then the other. Each have their advantages and disadvantages. The ps3 currently has the disadvantage of being the console with the smaller market share and more difficult to program hardware. Meaning that developers tend to start with the 360 and then port to the ps3 to save cost. Others like capcom have built development tools that adjust to the lowest common denominator. Making a base game then adding graphical fluff and features to the more capable hardware. Resident Evil 5 (PC/360/PS3) is one such game that used this method. Unfortunately I dont think this method truly takes advantage of the ps3 hardware. Instead treating the ps3 more like a CPU GPU set up and in such a way making the ps3 underutilized and the most inferior of the three. Almost never is the ps3 version of a multi platformer broken or unplayable. Its just more likely to have frame rate dips, lower resolution graphics, an muddied textures on these cross platform titles. Does it mean that the ps3 is inferior on the whole? no just that games are made on a budget with time constraints. make a playable game for a many people as possible while keeping cost down.

I want everyone's views on what the PS3 would be like if the developers learned everything about the system and stopped converting XBOX games to PS3. Its the same principal as converting HD tv to a standard def tv, its down grading and almost wrong haha jk :P. So lets get it started??????:lol: haha better

FLYNHAWAIIN