Soooo... Yeah, "Fallout 3"...

... Is it me, or is this game an incredibly slow start, with not a lot of direction?

I've played "Morrowind", I'm not completely foreign to Bethesda, but I just cannot get flying with this game. I've found some weapons, got some security armor, made it to and a bit around Megaton, but there's, it's, uh, very barren. And I'm getting my ass kicked a lot, by ferrets and dogs. Where are the caps I need to bribe ****s? Got ammo, but no one will sell me a gun. Activate a bomb? Hell no, like you'd get far enough away, setting it off... What's up with this game? The quests I have I don't want... Holy Rollers...

:lol:

Feel like thowing the game in the pool of radioactive water, beating the snot out of Moriarty, and calling it a day. What am I missing here?

Pick up a pipe and just bash people's head in

works pretty well for the beginning when things are hard

The Vault 101 intro is one of the most meorable sequences in gaming for me. Then when you walk out and see sunlight for the first time in 18 years, looking out over the D.C. ruins and bleak, desolate landscape... It may have been slow, but I wouldn't rather have it any other way. And in Fallout 3, you make the pacing. The game never ushers you foward or forces you into linear set pieces. Go out, explore, and do what you what. There aren't many experiences quite like it.

I found the beginning (after getting into the outdoors) to be the most fun part. Got boring and repetitive after that.

I can't stand VATS. I wish the shooting was more like stalker

I found the beginning (after getting into the outdoors) to be the most fun part. Got boring and repetitive after that.

I can't stand VATS. I wish the shooting was more like stalker

Grimlim

This. I could never get into the game because the shooting is absolutely dreadful.

[QUOTE="Grimlim"]

I found the beginning (after getting into the outdoors) to be the most fun part. Got boring and repetitive after that.

I can't stand VATS. I wish the shooting was more like stalker

Vari3ty

This. I could never get into the game because the shooting is absolutely dreadful.

Fallout 3 is what you make of it. It's not for everybody. I will say that much

... Is it me, or is this game an incredibly slow start, with not a lot of direction?

I've played "Morrowind", I'm not completely foreign to Bethesda, but I just cannot get flying with this game. I've found some weapons, got some security armor, made it to and a bit around Megaton, but there's, it's, uh, very barren. And I'm getting my ass kicked a lot, by ferrets and dogs. Where are the caps I need to bribe ****s? Got ammo, but no one will sell me a gun. Activate a bomb? Hell no, like you'd get far enough away, setting it off... What's up with this game? The quests I have I don't want... Holy Rollers...

:lol:

Feel like thowing the game in the pool of radioactive water, beating the snot out of Moriarty, and calling it a day. What am I missing here?

MonkeySpot

Caps are found whereever. They're laying around on tables, or incrates, dressers etc.

Don't buy weapons. Kill bandits for theirs. You can mainly get by killing and looting for ammo and weapons.

Don't activate the bomb in Megaton because if yyou wipe out that town you lose your safehouse forever. I couldn't imagine playing al lthe way through FO3 without somewhere to store my stuff.

My advice: Get New Vegas. I'm not even kidding.

Fallout 3 is an awesome game. I think there absolutely nothing wrong with the pacing because I believe that's how its supposed to be. I do think things tend to pick up when you accept quests and level up. Plus, if you have the Game of the Year edition there is all that DLC to explore too. I say give it a chance and you'll be rewarded. LOVE IT!:P

I just liked the freedom to explore. The world was just very immersive to me.

You still get a safehouse at Tempenny Tower instead. Some say Megaton's is bigger in reality. Megaton's safehouse just has a second floor while tempenny's is really wide. Also you get negative 1000 karma for activating the bomb. My routine after leaving vault 101. Go to Springfield. Search for items,etc throughout it. Go in that lady's house. Kill her take her money and gun and loot her house. Go to Megaton. Start doing some quests. On my new playthrough I decided to do a few sidequests instead of main story. There is a nice caps trick to get tons of caps from a trader,merchant,etc. If the merchant has 2 of the ame clothing or weapons in his inventory. Buy the cheapest when you get it should be at a higher level then he sold. Sell it back, rebuy the cheapest one and sell it back and repeat until he's broke.

Oh, I totally killed that greaser from the Tunnel Snake gang's mom... She got a beat-down, and when HE started crying, I clubbed HIM like a baby seal, too... that was fun...

... I guess i just need to be a bigger ****, but I feel like I shouldn't be (constant do-gooder here who has a problem - sometimes - with being a bad guy). Come to think of it now, I stole that one guy's house blind in Megaton, he wasn't home so I jacked all his stuff, cigarettes, etc., I dunno...

... As I talk about it here, I guess I DID do a lot more than I thought I did...

:lol:

... I would love a little more in the way of direction. The same thing bothered be with "Morrowind", and after walking all over that map, swinging my axe like it was going out of style, I kind of dwindled away and never went back. I guess I'll just wander around some more, see what throws a rock at me. It's just kind of monochromatic visually, as well as action so far.

So I went for a walk across the hills, found this grocery store...

:shock:

:o

:D

So I went for a walk across the hills, found this grocery store...

:shock:

:o

:D

MonkeySpot

Is someone starting to like Fallout 3 just a little bit more?:P

This game is not for everyone someone said...

but im really happy it is for me

is a really cool game, and slow start means, is not a shooting game (besides the first person view) you dont get hand grenades and a AK 47 at the veryu beginning... is about to explore... sometimes you find places that would be to hard to begin with... and so on

i have played the game twice and i really like it...

just go for a walk, find whats around, and you will get quests and so on...

great game!!!!!!!!!

I just liked the freedom to explore. The world was just very immersive to me.

doolindesperado

Yeah I thought that game got off to an extremely slow start. I had the most worthless gun in any video game I've ever played - I'd have had more luck throwing tennis balls at the enemies. And i wandered off in a direction different from Megaton so that screwed me up even more.

I went to some Quickie Mart (or something like that) and picked up every single empty bottle and bent tin can in the place - took numerous trips - and sold them at Megaton to make some money LOL.

It does get a lot better later on though. Some very cool guns and stuff.

So I went for a walk across the hills, found this grocery store...

:shock:

:o

:D

MonkeySpot

I know EXACTLY where you are, and I'm just gonna say this: Use stealth. Seriously. That place is FILLED with raiders (at least 10). You'll easily be outnumbered. Stay crouched and creep around and just eavesdrop on their conversations.

Fallout 3 is a slow burner. It's not some actionfest punctuated by big set pieces. It's all about the random encounters and odd NPCs you come across. Experiment with different weapons and perks. I had the "Animal Friend" perk leveled all the way up when some raider started running after me with a bat. I look to the left and out of nowhere a Yao Guai (mutated grizzly bear) is running to MY defense. He rears back and swipes at the raider. One shot kill. I smiled. :D

When I first tried playing the game, I put in maybe 6-8 hours. I said, "This is boring" and quit playing. A few weeks went by and I started back from the beginning. Let me just say, I'm glad I did. I ended up putting over 120 hours into it and it's one of my favorite games of all time.

So I went for a walk across the hills, found this grocery store...

:shock:

:o

:D

MonkeySpot

Yep that's where things heated up for me. Be careful when you leave, those bandits are everywhere.

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

So I went for a walk across the hills, found this grocery store...

:shock:

:o

:D

Conjuration

Yep that's where things heated up for me. Be careful when you leave, those bandits are everywhere.

Yeah, to everyone - I'm in... Like I said, I did "Morrowind" for a goodly bit so I know that it's all about what's over the next hill, or river, or ocean... I was feeling goofy and wanted to talk about "Fallout 3" in-aprticular, though "Skyrim" is the hot topic. I got into the grocery store, and I'm proud of the fact that I managed to pick four locks, which I never thought I'd do, that was cool, and a nice mini-game mechanic. I put the beat-down on a TON of Raiders my first time (yes, I eventually died) and got into the locked room, looted like a fiend until I heard other Raiders return and discover I had kicked the **** out of their friends (and left more than a few naked - I didn't take the armor, I just stripped 'em - I have issues), but in trying to sneak out I got seen and they put a clip in my butt because I wasn't managing my stimpacks properly. I like the VATS. I know this isn't a shooter any more than "Skyrim" is a fight game, and i think the VATS is pretty nice. It's an RPG thing, and the reason why a lot of people I know didn't like "Fallout 3" (they had played that top-down shooter on the PS2), but I'm way into it.

I'll tell ya, after that grocery store, I forgot about my need for weapons.

:lol:

I must have looked like Rambo.

I need to go back and just get out of the grocery store alive, with some guns in-hand...

... But I guess I'll stick with it for awhile and see where it takes me.

It didn't really download a huge patch or anything, and I've seen a few bugs (camera angles, etc) - Is this game as buggy as Bethesda games tend to be? I didn't get the GOTY edition, I got the reg'lar issue for $5 because I didn't know if I'd want MORE game than what I'm sure is already a huge proposition... As I said, I wandered "Morrowind" for a fair stretch...

... But I assume I should save early and save often?

Yeah, to everyone - I'm in... Like I said, I did "Morrowind" for a goodly bit so I know that it's all about what's over the next hill, or river, or ocean... I was feeling goofy and wanted to talk about "Fallout 3" in-aprticular, though "Skyrim" is the hot topic. I got into the grocery store, and I'm proud of the fact that I managed to pick four locks, which I never thought I'd do, that was cool, and a nice mini-game mechanic. I put the beat-down on a TON of Raiders my first time (yes, I eventually died) and got into the locked room, looted like a fiend until I heard other Raiders return and discover I had kicked the **** out of their friends (and left more than a few naked - I didn't take the armor, I just stripped 'em - I have issues), but in trying to sneak out I got seen and they put a clip in my butt because I wasn't managing my stimpacks properly. I like the VATS. I know this isn't a shooter any more than "Skyrim" is a fight game, and i think the VATS is pretty nice. It's an RPG thing, and the reason why a lot of people I know didn't like "Fallout 3" (they had played that top-down shooter on the PS2), but I'm way into it.

I'll tell ya, after that grocery store, I forgot about my need for weapons.

:lol:

I must have looked like Rambo.

I need to go back and just get out of the grocery store alive, with some guns in-hand...

... But I guess I'll stick with it for awhile and see where it takes me.

It didn't really download a huge patch or anything, and I've seen a few bugs (camera angles, etc) - Is this game as buggy as Bethesda games tend to be? I didn't get the GOTY edition, I got the reg'lar issue for $5 because I didn't know if I'd want MORE game than what I'm sure is already a huge proposition... As I said, I wandered "Morrowind" for a fair stretch...

... But I assume I should save early and save often?

MonkeySpot

That's right; you should make saving a big-time habit. And I know it goes without saying, but make a generous amount of save files for yourself to rotate in case anything goes awry.

And it's good you realize so early that you do have to manage your Stimpacks. They're not a rare item or anything, but it pays to hold onto them because you never know what you might find yourself in next.

I hear the GOTY edition is somehow much buggier than the standard version. So you made the right call there.

Good luck out there and don't listen to too much 3DAWG AWWOOOOOO!!! he might drive you insane. But listen at first because he lets a few interesting clues for you to follow. Have fun ttyl

I have to be in the mood for this kind of game, and it's been a long time since I put in on one, the last being "Morrowind"... Are there guild structures in this game, or do you just level up through doing?

I have to be in the mood for this kind of game, and it's been a long time since I put in on one, the last being "Morrowind"... Are there guild structures in this game, or do you just level up through doing?

MonkeySpot

I thought the beginning was decent, I actually was never really bored with the whole 80 hours I played it. It just depends on the person.

I agree the start is slow and you don't get alot of direction. Also trying to find some side quests is kinda difficult making me go to wikis and searching for them. The shooting is very choppy but the VATS system makes up for it. Still It's a fun game even with these irratating problems.

I just bought this game the GOTY edition, great atmosphere, i just hope it's not that buggy.NightStein

Earlier in this thread, someone posted that the GOTY Edition has even more bugs than the original release - Which might make sense, as the GOTY has more content, so therefor has more stuff to potentially go wrong. I think, just save a lot, and keep at least three saves going in rotation so that you can always reload form somewhere close to a crash or a glitch, and you'll be fine.

:)

after couple of hours from the chapter i left the game.... then after 2 - 3 moth i completed game just for sake of having it... so, ya...

Getting wicked-good with the 10mm handgun. Lots of critical hits. I like the leveling and perk system. VATS is the best thing I've seen in an RPG for a long time. Is it possible to take over places like that grocery store gang headquarters? Can I erradicate them from the place for good if I kill 'em all?

[QUOTE="NightStein"]I just bought this game the GOTY edition, great atmosphere, i just hope it's not that buggy.MonkeySpot

Earlier in this thread, someone posted that the GOTY Edition has even more bugs than the original release - Which might make sense, as the GOTY has more content, so therefor has more stuff to potentially go wrong. I think, just save a lot, and keep at least three saves going in rotation so that you can always reload form somewhere close to a crash or a glitch, and you'll be fine.

:)

Heh.

So I got home from work, had a slice of pizza, and got back into "Fallout 3"...

... With very few breaks, and without noticing the clock at ALL, suddenly, it's bedtime.

:lol:

Yeah, I can see this game becoming a problem...

:P

... found this factory, y'see... Aaaaaaand...

:shock:

Heh.

So I got home from work, had a slice of pizza, and got back into "Fallout 3"...

... With very few breaks, and without noticing the clock at ALL, suddenly, it's bedtime.

:lol:

Yeah, I can see this game becoming a problem...

:P

... found this factory, y'see... Aaaaaaand...

:shock:

MonkeySpot

Well, I wouldn't say 'addicted'. As with my last Bethesda outing, I'm not all that jazzed about the severely open-world approach, "The Game Is What You Make It" kind of things. I get extremely bored of running amok, and just exploring until I get a shot taken at me or a beasty jumps my ****. I'm the guy who got bored with GTA after the 3rd game (the one that took it TPS back on PS2) and ended up driving cab in Vice City for an hour before giving the game to my roommate and never playing it again. It's admirable, but it's so pointless all at the same time. There's really no focus, and that's not really my thing, which is why "Amalur" was more attractive than "Skyrim" for me... I simply don't have the amounts of time a game like this takes to appreciate it for it's accomplishments... It sucks my time up, sure. I can walk around until something happens, I can take a quest but none of the quests interest me at all...

Save my dad from the ants.

Take this letter to the overpass.

Bore Bore Bore, Blah blah blah.

I get it, this is a big ol' world with ghouls and ants and spitting flies and Raiders and just about everything including the puddles of water will kill you if you're not careful - And it's neat-o... But I don't think I'll be playing for very much longer (which, again, is why I got the $7 version not the $20 GOTY Edition). This was more to see what Bethesda has done since my "Morrowinding". One thing I will say, is that the load times on this game aren't nearly what "Morrowind" was on the Xbox... THAT game, you hit the load portion, and went out for a meal or a walk...

:)

It's a cool game, but I think most of it just goes over my head, and away from my thumbs. I'm not puting anyone down, if this is the greatest game on your shelf I respect that.

Yeah the start was really really slow for me and I just about gave it up. I kept going and after over 100 hours and collecting all the trophies from both the main game and all the DLC I can now say that it is amazing. One of my favorite games of all time. In fact probably only Demon's Souls and Ocarina of Time beat it.

I actually enjoyed Fallout 3 more once I lowered the difficulty because the combat is kind of dull so I got bored at higher levels with some bullet sponge enemies. It relied far too much on VATS for my liking.

It has a slow beginning, but I didn't mind it. And once you get out into the Wasteland an incredible experience starts to begin. Amazing game imo!

It has a slow beginning, but I didn't mind it. And once you get out into the Wasteland an incredible experience starts to begin. Amazing game imo!

Venom_Raptor

I see absolutely nothing "amazing" about this game whatsoever. Sorry. Just gonna have to agree to disagree.

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

It has a slow beginning, but I didn't mind it. And once you get out into the Wasteland an incredible experience starts to begin. Amazing game imo!

MonkeySpot

I see absolutely nothing "amazing" about this game whatsoever. Sorry. Just gonna have to agree to disagree.

For myself, I never beat FO3 when I first got it. It wasn't until well-after I beat New Vegas that I was inspired to go back and finish it.
New Vegas kicks the livng s*** out of FO3. It is my honest opinion that anyone who would tell you otherwise is basically just a perma-sucker for hype.

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"]

It has a slow beginning, but I didn't mind it. And once you get out into the Wasteland an incredible experience starts to begin. Amazing game imo!

Conjuration

I see absolutely nothing "amazing" about this game whatsoever. Sorry. Just gonna have to agree to disagree.

For myself, I never beat FO3 when I first got it. It wasn't until well-after I beat New Vegas that I was inspired to go back and finish it.
New Vegas kicks the livng s*** out of FO3. It is my honest opinion that anyone who would tell you otherwise is basically just a perma-sucker for hype.

I think my perceptions of NV would be the same as what I'm feeling about FO3. It's not a bad game, I think that people who love it have valid reasons, and iwould never question someone's enjoyment playing it. I guess I just like a bit more structure in my game design.

:)

The game is kinda slower paced, but that's how alot of Bethesda games are. The fun is in the exploration and the charecter development.