Sony to push forward PlayStation 4 plans if PS3 support wanes after jailbreak?

There's been so much written about the PlayStation 3 jailbreak in recent weeks that it's all too easy to glaze over the facts and put it down as another victory for piracy. But after numerous commentators speculated that this is one exploit Sony can't fight back against and that the PS3 is actually 'cracked for good' what does this mean for the future of the console? And does it mean we're likely to see the PlayStation 4 a whole lot sooner than we were meant to be?

With the release of Sony's Move controller and Microsoft's Kinect camera, the two big console developers were clearly hoping to extend this generation's life-span above and beyond the traditional 5 year cycle. Phenomenal sales of the Nintendo's Wii have proved that consumers are extremely receptive to innovation and forward thinking, regardless of whether it comes at the expense of driving technlogy forward. And in a Western world where HDTV and broadband penetration is still surprisingly low overall, Sony and Microsoft were no doubt quite pleased with the extra time afforded to them to develop their next generation of consoles and controllers.

However, with the PlayStation 3 being blown open in such a way and with the inevitable rampant piracy that's inevitably going to follow, for how long will support for PlayStation 3 remain profitable and sustainable? And in an ironic but ultimately cruel twist of fate, will this jailbreak actually lead to a massive increase in sales of the console?

On a day when Activision publicly stated that there's little, if not nothing, it can do to combat the hacking of its Call of Duty servers, public confidence in the console is surely at an all-time low.

Robert Bowling of Infinity Ward told Eurogamer that: "Games rely on the security of the encryption on the platforms they're played on, therefore; updates to the game through patches will not resolve this problem, unless the security exploit itself is resolved on the platform.

"Regretfully, Call of Duty games are receiving the bulk of the hacker's attention, due to its high player counts and popularity. However, the number of legitimate players severely outweighs the bad apples."

Of course the biggest concern should be that if Sony does set the wheels in motion and hurries the PlayStation 4 out of the door before it's good and ready, will the quality of its hardware suffer a similar fate to that of the first 360 consoles which were terribly prone to red-ring failures. Or, will a reduced development period lead to another slap-dash attempt at securing what could be a make or break console release for Sony? Only time will tell.


Source: http://www.allaboutthegames.co.uk/feature_story.php?headline=Sony-to-push-forward-PlayStation-4-plans-if-PS3-support-wanes-after-jailbreak-&article_id=11561

I for one had never believed any of Sony's marketing about sticking with a "ten year plan" for any console. The only reason it's been actually sticking with it for the PS2, is because of neutering support for it out of the ps3. That said, you'd have to be a damn fool to expect sony to wait until the ps3 is ten years old before releasing another console; Especially considering the competition.codezer0

You misinterpret. Sony did not say, the ps3 was a ten year plan before another console arrives. I also doubt that the ten year plan will stick but not for the reasons you do. Sony was on the top the last two generations.

Also I don't see where your comments about PS2 still selling due to lack of BC in PS3. PS1 games were still sold into the year 2005 despite BC in PS2, so your logic has no foundation.

You need to get over the whole BC issue anyway. It has been over a year and all you do in the PS3 boards in complain about the lack BC.

There have been hacks for every system and that did not stop any of them from selling, so I don't see what the big deal is. The PS3 finally got hacked the Wii and 360. The system is not going to go down because of it. Who has blu ray burners? Most of the general public probably doesn't. I am sure some people do as well.

But after numerous commentators speculated that this is one exploit Sony can't fight back against and that the PS3 is actually 'cracked for good'

Tx-1000

I put about as much faith in that as I do in anything else I read on the internet. I do hope a lot of people believe it though, because I'll have a good laugh when they all get banned.

Sue those who are using it for piracy. Selling modified PS3s. Sue those who supply CFW that enables piracy. Ban anyone using CFW who steps on Playstation Network.

Make these people pay and send out a message to anyone else who wants to give it a go.

It won't stop it but it sure will help.

[QUOTE="codezer0"]I for one had never believed any of Sony's marketing about sticking with a "ten year plan" for any console. The only reason it's been actually sticking with it for the PS2, is because of neutering support for it out of the ps3. That said, you'd have to be a damn fool to expect sony to wait until the ps3 is ten years old before releasing another console; Especially considering the competition.gamenerd15

You misinterpret. Sony did not say, the ps3 was a ten year plan before another console arrives. I also doubt that the ten year plan will stick but not for the reasons you do. Sony was on the top the last two generations.

Also I don't see where your comments about PS2 still selling due to lack of BC in PS3. PS1 games were still sold into the year 2005 despite BC in PS2, so your logic has no foundation.

You need to get over the whole BC issue anyway. It has been over a year and all you do in the PS3 boards in complain about the lack BC.

Um, no, there weren't. You couldn't even find a PS1 within two years of the PS2 being on the market.codezer0

Sony will release another revision of the PS3 instead of releasing Playstation 4. Both PS1 and PS2 have had more then 3 revisions. So another Playstation 3 remodel is likely should this warrent it.

Playstation 4 is still a long ways off.

Sony will release another revision of the PS3 instead of releasing Playstation 4. Both PS1 and PS2 have had more then 3 revisions. So another Playstation 3 remodel is likely should this warrent it.

Playstation 4 is still a long ways off.

Megavideogamer

[QUOTE="Megavideogamer"]

Sony will release another revision of the PS3 instead of releasing Playstation 4. Both PS1 and PS2 have had more then 3 revisions. So another Playstation 3 remodel is likely should this warrent it.

Playstation 4 is still a long ways off.

codezer0

. None of the sports games come out to the PS2 anymore, :codezer0

but ye people who keep sayin all this need to chill nothin will happen to the ps3.its still goin to be there for a long time they wont rush the playstation 4 as if they do it will be sh*t and who would want it anyway then

I wouldn't expect a PS4 anytime soon. PS3 is only 3+ years old.

Sue those who are using it for piracy. Selling modified PS3s. Sue those who supply CFW that enables piracy. Ban anyone using CFW who steps on Playstation Network.

Make these people pay and send out a message to anyone else who wants to give it a go.

It won't stop it but it sure will help.

fusionhunter

Tell that to the RIAA about torrents and other DL sites..lol..People have been sued for a LOT of money several times but it still goes on daily. Warning does nothing...Tell a kid not to do something again and what does the kid do???..he does it again..Its human nature to not listen and do something until you are caught and severely punished.

they can't get banned if you don't report them

http://np.us.playstation.com/complaint/pc/ComplaintForm.aspx

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

Sue those who are using it for piracy. Selling modified PS3s. Sue those who supply CFW that enables piracy. Ban anyone using CFW who steps on Playstation Network.

Make these people pay and send out a message to anyone else who wants to give it a go.

It won't stop it but it sure will help.

VanDammFan

Tell that to the RIAA about torrents and other DL sites..lol..People have been sued for a LOT of money several times but it still goes on daily. Warning does nothing...Tell a kid not to do something again and what does the kid do???..he does it again..Its human nature to not listen and do something until you are caught and severely punished.

People selling modified consoles have been sued and caught by undercover agents. Not all these people are "Kids" and know what their doing is wrong. It's not human nature it's a indivdual decision from right and wrong when your grown up.

It will help reduce the amount people selling modded consoles and posting modded firmware online. If someone at home can search up some CFW that runs pirated games, so can Sony and it's not so hard to track down who's doing it.

Hardware sales will increase Software sales will decrease The 360 was hacked shortly after it was released and it's doing just fine, likewise with the Wii. People just overreact because it's the PS3.MushroomWig

I think people were so bought and sold on the fact that PS3 was deemed "unhackable". The shock sets in that Sony's console isn't invincible after all. All new devices using new and expensive technology, are inevitably cracked over time as patterns begin to emerge and said technology becomes cheaper. Also, over bearing control seems to entice hackers a lot further. I think it's a load of crap to whine over a piece of hardware. Let's be realistic here folks. We would all have something to actually worry about is PSN itself was broken and exploited. When they can hack users accounts, send viruses, worm clusters and trojans. Then we can worry and crap our pants. Otherwise, it doesn't personally affect us.

To close, I don't buy into that crap that piracy eats into the quality of games. That isn't true at all. Greed and BS video game industry politics and red tape has been doing that. Why else do you think you're expected to pay even more money for the rest of the game you just paid $60/$70 for...?

I know both sides of the coin. Every game has a new protection protocol that hasn't stopped them before. Don't think it suddenly "does" now.

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="fusionhunter"]

Sue those who are using it for piracy. Selling modified PS3s. Sue those who supply CFW that enables piracy. Ban anyone using CFW who steps on Playstation Network.

Make these people pay and send out a message to anyone else who wants to give it a go.

It won't stop it but it sure will help.

fusionhunter

Tell that to the RIAA about torrents and other DL sites..lol..People have been sued for a LOT of money several times but it still goes on daily. Warning does nothing...Tell a kid not to do something again and what does the kid do???..he does it again..Its human nature to not listen and do something until you are caught and severely punished.

People selling modified consoles have been sued and caught by undercover agents. Not all these people are "Kids" and know what their doing is wrong. It's not human nature it's a indivdual decision from right and wrong when your grown up.

It will help reduce the amount people selling modded consoles and posting modded firmware online. If someone at home can search up some CFW that runs pirated games, so can Sony and it's not so hard to track down who's doing it.

The RIAA goes after eight year olds and senior citizens for downloading one Kenny G song. They are nothing but a inefficient bureaucrat body sucking funds and resources dry. They don't help the situation at all.

Nah, this wont force out the PS3 any sooner. The fact it took this long for the PS3 to be hacked is pretty impressive on Sony's part.

Nah, this wont force out the PS3 any sooner. The fact it took this long for the PS3 to be hacked is pretty impressive on Sony's part.

Bubble_Man

Educate yourself! Besides, piracy will only help Sony in that more people will want a PS3 now. Not that much more, but more still. The PSP is doing just fine too. The games for it suck because it's a crippled console. If it had a 3D gimmick (wink wink) it would definitely be selling better but the games would still suck because it's trying to be something it can't be. Handhelds are for simple, usually 2D games, not RPGs that have savepoints 15 minutes away from each other and no auto save...

But I digress! Sony did everything to themselves. The funniest part is that I'm sure the PS4 will lack all the features that made the PS3 unnecessary to hack (OtherOS, back-compat, free online, and region free games), and will therefore be hacked much much quicker.

I love the logic of some people, Sony's product A got hacked so natrually when they lose sales due to piracy/whatever they will drop a ton of money bringing something new out. tbh the people moaning about BC going should take a chill pill and if they want to play ps2 games so badly just go and buy themselves a second user ps2, which you can pick up for little or nothing these days

The market has been illogical since the release of CD burner allowing anybody to copy any kind of files, first step allowing high level piracy and of course sell of pirated products. Then on with DVD. And of course the internet with very soon software allowing file exchange like emule. that was the moment where companies had to intervene by programming or legal ways to stop that. They didn't (as they didn't for the CD/DVD nurners).

So it's all their fault for not securing their product.

In France we had a recent law called HADOPI about illegal copy. There were 3 different votes about it. The law is very badly written, can not be put into practice as it is, we need in France a decree of application that is still not forecast ... And anyway for the past laws concerning illegal copy, some epople with blurred face were presented in the news, but noone I know or on forums or in other parts of France know anyone that went on trial for that. Here it's just manipulation and threats from the politics but no action.

Honestly, if the PS2 supports matters to you that much, why not purchase a PS2? They are still easy to find, and at 100 bucks, IMHO, they are relativly cheap in comparision to the other home consoles on the market. Blue_Shield

I don't see Playstation 4 appearance for at least 2-3 more years. It makes no business sense to release the product when the current machine is gaining momentum and has many games on the horizon. Not even 5% of ps3 population will utilise so called hacks that are being overblown in recent media outlets.

gamenerd, do you have nothing better to do than to try and annoy me? First off, what good is it for them to be released if no store will carry it? Or that no rental outlet will stock the game in order to even try to play it? As stated, HERE you couldn't even find a new PS1 anywhere within the first two years of the PS2's release, and accessories and games followed suit not long after that. And even now, the PS2 is basically getting a trickle of real crap games at this point in its life... which I find ironic when the PS2 had the worst SDK out of the four systems (inclusive) it was competing with. Considering the insane amount of money it took for me to have one working PS3 that wasn't neutered, I have every right to complain about what Sony is doing and how they've screwed me over. Why? Because in case you haven't figured it out, they did screw me over, by making such shoddy, unreliable hardware, and not backing their product like an ethical, reputable company would. Even automotive manufacturers still support their vehicles past their warranty dates with parts and specs so that other companies can at least create compatible equipment to repair them. Yet we're all just supposed to bend over backwards because it's Sony? I don't think so.codezer0

Do you have nothing better to do than bash Sony on the PS3 forums for over a year, whining about how your PS3 broke? Every PS3 topic you post, you hint at the BC issue, even when it is not being brought up, you bring it up. I am going after people now. If you are going to annoy the forums, then I am going to shut you down.

gamenerd, do you have nothing better to do than to try and annoy me? First off, what good is it for them to be released if no store will carry it? Or that no rental outlet will stock the game in order to even try to play it? As stated, HERE you couldn't even find a new PS1 anywhere within the first two years of the PS2's release, and accessories and games followed suit not long after that. And even now, the PS2 is basically getting a trickle of real crap games at this point in its life... which I find ironic when the PS2 had the worst SDK out of the four systems (inclusive) it was competing with. Considering the insane amount of money it took for me to have one working PS3 that wasn't neutered, I have every right to complain about what Sony is doing and how they've screwed me over. Why? Because in case you haven't figured it out, they did screw me over, by making such shoddy, unreliable hardware, and not backing their product like an ethical, reputable company would. Even automotive manufacturers still support their vehicles past their warranty dates with parts and specs so that other companies can at least create compatible equipment to repair them. Yet we're all just supposed to bend over backwards because it's Sony? I don't think so.codezer0

I bought Mega Man X5 and X7 at the same time at a gamestop in 03, so your whole issue with games not being carried falls on deaf ears.

I think Sony is taking the right steps for now. They are going after GeoHack and his buddies through the courts to shut them down and possibly make it illegal to distribute custom FW for the console.-ArchAngeL-777-

[QUOTE="-ArchAngeL-777-"]I think Sony is taking the right steps for now. They are going after GeoHack and his buddies through the courts to shut them down and possibly make it illegal to distribute custom FW for the console.codezer0

I have been reading your replies and I feel your pain. BUT if you think b&*g about this is going to help you are crying on deaf ears bro. I hate MS after this gen of god aweful hardware,LIVE cost going up,and on top of that games being 60$. BUT with all my complaining over the last 6 years its done nothing to help the problem. You know what helped????...Me dropping MS. Thats what helped me. If SONY is killing you with these problems drop them, move on. You are not binded to them. Sure you have some games you want to play 10 years from now, great, so do I. BUT those days are about gone with completely horrible hardware these days..and really the last 10 years its been touch and go.

Move on man...quit complaining cause its not gonna work.

So instead of fixing the problem, searching for hackers and banning them, they are just gonna drop the ps3 and make a new console ? Yeah, that's smart. -sigh-jack00

If you or anyone thinks that...im sorry, but its not gonna happen. There is not a system made since the beginning of time that has not been hacked in some for or fasion. Its nothing to even worry with and im getting a kick out of reading all the threads on this..its making my day..lol..people are funny

Nice post TC! Not only do I see Sony comming out with the PS4 very soon, I believe we will see the birth of a PSN monthly service fee.

I believe out of the three powerhouses (Wii, Microsoft, Sony) that Sony is last in the console race. It would be logical for Sony to make the first move in attempts to try something new, especially to recover lost customer moral.

This just makes perfect sense to release a brand new console first, at low cost, with a monthly service fee to re-coup the losses of selling a cheap system. Add on golden promises that gamers have been looking for to help build lost moral...and its a sound plan to bounce back from this.

When will they do this? Time will tell...but Sony has dropped some bombs on their customer base with titles like Medal of Honor, GT5 and Black Op's gaining uproar from the community and it would not surprise me at all to see them release a new console to save them.

If I had to put a date on it. I honestly believe 2012 Christmas season. I'm calling it now :)

gamenerd, do you have nothing better to do than to try and annoy me? First off, what good is it for them to be released if no store will carry it? Or that no rental outlet will stock the game in order to even try to play it? As stated, HERE you couldn't even find a new PS1 anywhere within the first two years of the PS2's release, and accessories and games followed suit not long after that. And even now, the PS2 is basically getting a trickle of real crap games at this point in its life... which I find ironic when the PS2 had the worst SDK out of the four systems (inclusive) it was competing with. Considering the insane amount of money it took for me to have one working PS3 that wasn't neutered, I have every right to complain about what Sony is doing and how they've screwed me over. Why? Because in case you haven't figured it out, they did screw me over, by making such shoddy, unreliable hardware, and not backing their product like an ethical, reputable company would. Even automotive manufacturers still support their vehicles past their warranty dates with parts and specs so that other companies can at least create compatible equipment to repair them. Yet we're all just supposed to bend over backwards because it's Sony? I don't think so.codezer0

Thats bogus.. Its not gonna change much, the number of hackers compared to the number of actual systems is nothing, and Robert Bowlings comment was in regards to COD which has always been poorly protected and a generally shoddy product. Whoever wrote that article is just talking out of their ass.PoisoN_Facecam0

[QUOTE="codezer0"]gamenerd, do you have nothing better to do than to try and annoy me? First off, what good is it for them to be released if no store will carry it? Or that no rental outlet will stock the game in order to even try to play it? As stated, HERE you couldn't even find a new PS1 anywhere within the first two years of the PS2's release, and accessories and games followed suit not long after that. And even now, the PS2 is basically getting a trickle of real crap games at this point in its life... which I find ironic when the PS2 had the worst SDK out of the four systems (inclusive) it was competing with. Considering the insane amount of money it took for me to have one working PS3 that wasn't neutered, I have every right to complain about what Sony is doing and how they've screwed me over. Why? Because in case you haven't figured it out, they did screw me over, by making such shoddy, unreliable hardware, and not backing their product like an ethical, reputable company would. Even automotive manufacturers still support their vehicles past their warranty dates with parts and specs so that other companies can at least create compatible equipment to repair them. Yet we're all just supposed to bend over backwards because it's Sony? I don't think so.MrSelf-Destruct

Dude, there is so much wrong with that post. lol. You should honestly just stop buying Sony products if that's how you feel. I don't see how Sony has done any worse than other console manufacturers this gen. They've been just as "ethical" as the others while their hardware has been more reliable than a certain one. Sony also gave users tons of freedom with peripherals and upgrade options - something you have to pay an arm and a leg for to get for another console. Those freedoms have been only slightly hindered and its because of the hackers you so eagerly support. MrSelf-Destruct

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]Dude, there is so much wrong with that post. lol. You should honestly just stop buying Sony products if that's how you feel. I don't see how Sony has done any worse than other console manufacturers this gen. They've been just as "ethical" as the others while their hardware has been more reliable than a certain one. Sony also gave users tons of freedom with peripherals and upgrade options - something you have to pay an arm and a leg for to get for another console. Those freedoms have been only slightly hindered and its because of the hackers you so eagerly support. codezer0

CODEZERO... You are really torn up arent you??lol...You need to step back from the electronics for a minute. Realize that there are a TON more important things in life for you to get upset over. You need to understand that its not up to you what Sony or any developer does. Sure it puts us in a bind at times, but its not your business and there is zero you can do about it. Its like me getting upset when people say we live in a free country when I know we dont. Sure I get upset at times, but then I have to understand it dont matter how mad I get there is NOTHING I can do...NOTHING..

So dude, before you have a heart attack, you need to step back and evaluate things because in the grand scheme of things....your problems dont mean %^&*!!..