Snipers Ruined MAG.

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#1 CrispexOps
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I went out this morning and purchased MAG on my way to work, and thought when I came home I would play it. I pop it in, and naturally there is always some kind of patch. So I start playing, and start gunning down people with my assault rifle, and the I notice I get picked off by a sniper. Meh, no big deal, I spawn with my sniper rifle to take him out, and then I look up on a ridge, and see roughly 12 snipers, picking people off left and right. Camping at it's best. I worry about what MAG has already become, a sniper heaven, which little people can move without being shot. Sure, 256 players is fun as hell, but I can't help but to feel like snipers will be the death of MAG for many.

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#2 Tangmashi
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Reminds me a long time ago when I played TFC on 2fort, there would always be like 5-6 snipers on the battlements. Good times as a soldier could easily rocketjump up there and kill all of them.

Too bad you can't drop a laserguided bomb on them or something.

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yeah sorry bout that

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#4 CrispexOps
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I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't so easy to snipe people.

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#5 Tangmashi
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I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't so easy to snipe people.

CrispexOps

Like in KZ2 where sniping actually requires some skill?

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#6 Bladex2k
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if you played the open beta you would have realized this and saved yourself 60 bucks

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#8 verbalfilth
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Why do people complain so much about snipers and camping...? snipers are meant to camp....you shouldn't expect someone running around with a sniper rifle like its an assault rifle. anyways, the golden rule is to stay out of sight and keep moving in "hard to snipe" patterns. Its worked in most fps games and I'm sure it will work in MAG as well.
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#9 CrispexOps
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if you played the open beta you would have realized this and saved yourself 60 bucks

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When did I ever complain about money or about not liking it? I'm simply stating the snipers will be what turns a lot of people away from this game. I never once stated I regretted buying it.

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#10 gugler990
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1.smoke bomb

2. get your squad mate to drive an APC and stay behind it or ride a vehicle

3. Artillery Strike

4.Vehicle

5. grenade

6. Find another route

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#11 GrandJury
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*Sigh* here we go. I don't think there has ever been a shooter with a sniper rifle were someone has not complained about it. There are ways around them. Like the others have said snipers are meant to sit in one spot.
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#12 Snapplers
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Why don't they just have a certain amount of slots per team? Example, only 3 people can be the sniper class at any given time. First come, first served basically. I think there should be limits for all classes, with primairly infantry having the most slots.

This would solve the problem I believe.

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#13 VanDammFan
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TC..Thats the nature of the business. Snipers are always going to be a part of the problem. I am normally one of them.:)..You have to learn to either get around them, get better than them or just dont play. On a side note, I feel like maybe the snipe gun should be a thing of the past BECAUSE of these problems.

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#14 Dysantic
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Why don't they just have a certain amount of slots per team? Example, only 3 people can be the sniper class at any given time. First come, first served basically. I think there should be limits for all classes, with primairly infantry having the most slots.

This would solve the problem I believe.

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This doesn't make sense to me. If the entire team wants to be snipers, let them. They will never take over any areas or move forward in the battlefield. All you really have to do to take down a group of snipers like the TC is complaining about is flank them by going around and then you have 12 guys to knife in a row while they are all looking through their scopes.

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#15 Soapweed
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I don't see how this is any big news. I've been hearing the same thing since Counter Strike.

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Im sorry to piss you off TC.
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#17 Caprellid
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I don't see how this is any big news. I've been hearing the same thing since Counter Strike.

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aint nothing but some good ol A-W-Ps!!!!! ohhh the good times haha.

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#18 oajlu
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[QUOTE="CrispexOps"]

I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't so easy to snipe people.

Tangmashi

Like in KZ2 where sniping actually requires some skill?

yeah radar skill. lol radar + stealth = ownage in some of kz2's maps.

i think COD's sniper is thehardest to use. it requires to hold a extra button to steady it. in other games (MAG and KZ2), sniper gun is very steady and they dont require to hold another button to steady it.

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#20 WR_Platinum
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In the beta, there were a bunch of snipers, you just have to get used to the maps and take em out nicely. Snipers are pretty easy to take out especially is you have a tank to blow em up with.

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#21 Grymreign
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The maps are so cluttered with stuff that you can just find a nice little place of your own to camp and pick them off lol...

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The REAL problem is not snipers but people takin this game too seriously.....get a group of people, have a party, have fun, instead you got some people who take stuff too seriously. Its a battle sim ofcourse you're gonna get sniped, its a huge map every snipers wet dream. So you got sniped find an alternate path, zig zag your way, cover to cover. Flank the dudes call in an airstrike, give your squad / platoon leader some feedback tell him where you're getting hit. For chrissakes do something man, this aint a run and gun game you want that COD:MW2 is your best bet. But dont diss the game cuz it aint COD:MW2. I see people whining all the time over forums and on team chat instead of giving feedback to the leader where they want strikes etc. they get killed then blame the leader who's in the chaos getting himself killed, then they lose it, diss the leader, diss the game, and post on a forum. Thats why you need a mic for the full experience. I mean the idea is teamwork so FEEDBACK people !!!!! And whats with everyone joining SVER !?!

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The REAL problem is not snipers but people takin this game too seriously.....get a group of people, have a party, have fun, instead you got some people who take stuff too seriously. Its a battle sim ofcourse you're gonna get sniped, its a huge map every snipers wet dream. So you got sniped find an alternate path, zig zag your way, cover to cover. Flank the dudes call in an airstrike, give your squad / platoon leader some feedback tell him where you're getting hit. For chrissakes do something man, this aint a run and gun game you want that COD:MW2 is your best bet. But dont diss the game cuz it aint COD:MW2. I see people whining all the time over forums and on team chat instead of giving feedback to the leader where they want strikes etc. they get killed then blame the leader who's in the chaos getting himself killed, then they lose it, diss the leader, diss the game, and post on a forum. Thats why you need a mic for the full experience. I mean the idea is teamwork so FEEDBACK people !!!!! And whats with everyone joining SVER !?!

Yagnav

Way tocontradict yourself.

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I went out this morning and purchased MAG on my way to work, and thought when I came home I would play it. I pop it in, and naturally there is always some kind of patch. So I start playing, and start gunning down people with my assault rifle, and the I notice I get picked off by a sniper. Meh, no big deal, I spawn with my sniper rifle to take him out, and then I look up on a ridge, and see roughly 12 snipers, picking people off left and right. Camping at it's best. I worry about what MAG has already become, a sniper heaven, which little people can move without being shot. Sure, 256 players is fun as hell, but I can't help but to feel like snipers will be the death of MAG for many.

CrispexOps
It is called defending. Try seeing where they are and snip them back, or throw grenades at them(and kill all 12) or even a rocket with a rocket launcher, or you can smoke the places you are going through so that it will make their job harder. Oh and another thing do not rush through open areas. This game allows you to screw with snipers easily all you have to do, is use your weaponry accordingly.
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#26 Yagnav
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[QUOTE="Yagnav"]

The REAL problem is not snipers but people takin this game too seriously.....get a group of people, have a party, have fun, instead you got some people who take stuff too seriously.And whats with everyone joining SVER !?!

hazelnutman

Way tocontradict yourself.

Its true isnt it dosent everyone seem to be on SVER for whatever reasons ? I'm not even gonna argue...... take it for what it is... SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION

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#27 PoisoN_Facecam0
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[QUOTE="CrispexOps"]

I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't so easy to snipe people.

Tangmashi

Like in KZ2 where sniping actually requires some skill?

QFT. at least until you get the spot and mark ability, then its just plain boring....
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#28 PoisoN_Facecam0
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]

[QUOTE="Yagnav"]

The REAL problem is not snipers but people takin this game too seriously.....get a group of people, have a party, have fun, instead you got some people who take stuff too seriously.And whats with everyone joining SVER !?!

Yagnav

Way tocontradict yourself.

Its true isnt it dosent everyone seem to be on SVER for whatever reasons ? I'm not even gonna argue...... take it for what it is... SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION

^ Missed the point... :roll:
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The REAL problem is not snipers but people takin this game too seriously.....get a group of people, have a party, have fun, instead you got some people who take stuff too seriously. Its a battle sim ofcourse you're gonna get sniped, its a huge map every snipers wet dream. So you got sniped find an alternate path, zig zag your way, cover to cover. Flank the dudes call in an airstrike, give your squad / platoon leader some feedback tell him where you're getting hit. For chrissakes do something man, this aint a run and gun game you want that COD:MW2 is your best bet. But dont diss the game cuz it aint COD:MW2. I see people whining all the time over forums and on team chat instead of giving feedback to the leader where they want strikes etc. they get killed then blame the leader who's in the chaos getting himself killed, then they lose it, diss the leader, diss the game, and post on a forum. Thats why you need a mic for the full experience. I mean the idea is teamwork so FEEDBACK people !!!!! And whats with everyone joining SVER !?!

Yagnav
Their Base is hard to penetrate. Seriously, I Used to be Raven then I switched to SVER and enemies rarely get to point C. and people heal and resu you like crazy.
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#31 M0wen10
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Not just snipers - Bad graphics and gameplay ruined MAG

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#32 hazelnutman
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[QUOTE="hazelnutman"]

[QUOTE="Yagnav"]

The REAL problem is not snipers but people takin this game too seriously.....get a group of people, have a party, have fun, instead you got some people who take stuff too seriously.And whats with everyone joining SVER !?!

Yagnav

Way tocontradict yourself.

Its true isnt it dosent everyone seem to be on SVER for whatever reasons ? I'm not even gonna argue...... take it for what it is... SOMEONE ELSE'S OPINION

You either didn't read my post, or your own.
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#33 Rhen_Var
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[QUOTE="Tangmashi"]

[QUOTE="CrispexOps"]

I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't so easy to snipe people.

oajlu

Like in KZ2 where sniping actually requires some skill?

yeah radar skill. lol radar + stealth = ownage in some of kz2's maps.

i think COD's sniper is thehardest to use. it requires to hold a extra button to steady it. in other games (MAG and KZ2), sniper gun is very steady and they dont require to hold another button to steady it.

Well, I've gone through hell in Battlefield sniping. The sniper scope does sway, sure, but the maps are big and sniping close range is near impossible because of the sway of guns whenever you move. And since the maps are big, there is bullet drop. Yes, your shots won't hit that point in the middle all the time. Not to mention that Sniping in Battlefield is gives a great sense of accomplishment.
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1.smoke bomb

2. get your squad mate to drive an APC and stay behind it or ride a vehicle

3. Artillery Strike

4.Vehicle

5. grenade

6. Find another route

gugler990
Exactly. Instead of moaning, people should actually just find a way to tackle the problem. Smoke bombs especially... people tend to forget those exist.
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#35 muller39
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Not just snipers - Bad graphics and gameplay ruined MAG

M0wen10
Here you are again pestering everyone on how much you dislike MAG. We know what you stand on the subject so their is no need to post in anymore of these MAG threads. Please and thank you.
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#36 redskins2156
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Stick to MW2 than, it doesn't require a whole lot of skills.

I wouldn't be mad if it wasn't so easy to snipe people.

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#37 MarcRecon
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You might as well stop playing online shooters like, KZ2,GRAW,RB6,BF,COD and every other shooter out there. I don't like snipers myself(I like being in the middle of the conflict)''BUT" it's apart of the game...learn to adapt or stop palying.

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#38 MarcRecon
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[QUOTE="gugler990"]

1.smoke bomb

2. get your squad mate to drive an APC and stay behind it or ride a vehicle

3. Artillery Strike

4.Vehicle

5. grenade

6. Find another route

TheLordHimself

Exactly. Instead of moaning, people should actually just find a way to tackle the problem. Smoke bombs especially... people tend to forget those exist.

I wish I would have seen this post before I replied!!! BRAVO:P

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#39 Keasy4
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well i been through that but i picked them all off even though u get spotted after a while.. there was atleast 5 to 6 sniper i picked off myself 4 be4 i got spotted..
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#40 OriginalJonty
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This just interests me more. I love hunting down snipers. Adds a new challenge to FPS's. Haven't got MAG yet though.

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#41 CrispexOps
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I think the class limitation would work quite well. Look at Day Of Defeat: Source, they only allowed 3 snipers per team (normally), and the game was actually balanced.

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#42 Rhen_Var
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This just interests me more. I love hunting down snipers. Adds a new challenge to FPS's. Haven't got MAG yet though.

OriginalJonty
A challenge? Since when was stabbing sitting ducks in the back a challenge?
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#43 commandercrap
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In respone to the title of this hread - NO. Not for me, at least. It's fun to snipe, get counter-sniped, then go back and snipe them again. It's all part of the fun, man.

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[QUOTE="Rhen_Var"][QUOTE="OriginalJonty"] A challenge? Since when was stabbing sitting ducks in the back a challenge?

[QUOTE="OriginalJonty"]

This just interests me more. I love hunting down snipers. Adds a new challenge to FPS's. Haven't got MAG yet though.

Rhen_Var
A challenge? Since when was stabbing sitting ducks in the back a challenge?

Not the actual killing of them but finding ways to get round them without getting caught in their sights. It can be more interesting than running and gunning all the time.
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There is always, no matter what game, a certain satisfaction in knifing a sniper who is looking through his scope.

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#46 Blabadon
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I went out this morning and purchased MAG on my way to work, and thought when I came home I would play it. I pop it in, and naturally there is always some kind of patch. So I start playing, and start gunning down people with my assault rifle, and the I notice I get picked off by a sniper. Meh, no big deal, I spawn with my sniper rifle to take him out, and then I look up on a ridge, and see roughly 12 snipers, picking people off left and right. Camping at it's best. I worry about what MAG has already become, a sniper heaven, which little people can move without being shot. Sure, 256 players is fun as hell, but I can't help but to feel like snipers will be the death of MAG for many.

CrispexOps
so i cant help but wonder, if there were 12 snipers there and your sniper is aiming at them, isnt that atleast 6 easy kills? thats the answer to the problem. fight sniper with sniper its teamwork aka mag
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#47 MarcRecon
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[QUOTE="OriginalJonty"]

This just interests me more. I love hunting down snipers. Adds a new challenge to FPS's. Haven't got MAG yet though.

Rhen_Var

A challenge? Since when was stabbing sitting ducks in the back a challenge?

I wouldn't knife a sniper,a shotgun blast to the back of the head is more my style.:)