Killzone 2: Enough to challenge Halo 3's throne?

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#1 csstriker4
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I hate to make the never ending comparison between Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but if you had to choose one, what would it be?

After seeing this video, I'm going to have to go with Killzone just based off of singleplayer.

25 Minutes of Killzone

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#2 simulation
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Killzone 2 it will be the Next Gen
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#3 ianuilliam
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What I've seen so far, Killzone2 looks much better.
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#4 Xire_XII
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Single player? I think so.

Multiplayer? Hard to compete. We'll have to see.

I think if anything, Call of Duty 4 is enough to rival the throne.

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#6 Claw17k
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Single player? I think so.

Multiplayer? Hard to compete. We'll have to see.

I think if anything, Call of Duty 4 is enough to rival the throne.

Xire_XII

resistance is better multiplayer than halo and the xbots wont addmit it because ign and gamespot say its not as good as halo. killzone 2's graphics will blow everyone away!

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#7 justinblair2
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i am looking so forward to killzone 2, and halo 3. But first things first..when people make these kind of comparison's they are dammning the game. Killzone 2 may end up being the better game, but it will never sell like halo.
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#8 Claw17k
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Actually no. Not trying to troll, but you cows amaze me sometimes. Halo 2 sold 2 million copies on its first day. You really think killzone 2 will become top? lol, dont think so.

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go back to the xbot board this is the ps3 board not the 'xbots troll here board'

what are you even doing here, xbot? you ******* xbot

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#9 Symphonycometh
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Actually no. Not trying to troll, but you cows amaze me sometimes. Halo 2 sold 2 million copies on its first day. You really think killzone 2 will become top? lol, dont think so.

army-of_one

Say "cow" and trouble is bound to come. :roll:

Killzone 2 has to have a Hill of a story and multi-player...and then it's got to get a 10/10 since Halo 3 is bound to get a 10/10.

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#10 hashimgillani1
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Killzone has a bad history behind it with horrible gameplay. And i must say I am afraid that Killzone 2 will have the same bad gameplay but by the looks of things and hte popularity i doubt it. What the article was saying about how it was awesome and handled really well and the physics and all gives u hope.

Now Halo is considered to be the greatest game of all time (arguably) though i dont agree with that it is one of the best and most anticipated. Not to mention its history is good really really good.

In conclusion, so far it can be said that Halo can narrowly surpass Killzone 2 but the competition is going to be intense and we have to wait to find out.

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#11 mustaf_nur89
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killzone is a very promising game no doubt, but its just too early to call which is better....
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#12 Claw17k
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Killzone has a bad history behind it with horrible gameplay. And i must say I am afraid that Killzone 2 will have the same bad gameplay but by the looks of things and hte popularity i doubt it. What the article was saying about how it was awesome and handled really well and the physics and all gives u hope.

Now Halo is considered to be the greatest game of all time (arguably) though i dont agree with that it is one of the best and most anticipated. Not to mention its history is good really really good.

In conclusion, so far it can be said that Halo can narrowly surpass Killzone 2 but the competition is going to be intense and we have to wait to find out.

hashimgillani1

MGS4 will own though. and littlebigplanet. and uncharted. and resistance 2

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#13 gamer082009
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The Killzone franchise will NEVER beat Halo. Remember when people firstseen and heardof Killzone 1 for the PS2 people then said it was "the Halo killer," and come to find out it was FARRR from being a Halo killer. Killzone 1 was not that good of a game, so what makes people think that this one will be any better?...And looking at recent flops like>>Heavenly Sword & Lair...I'm not getting too thrilled over anymore hyped-up PS3 titles. So to answer the question, no Killzone 2 will not be "enough to challenge Halo 3's throne!"
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#15 HiImUPSMan
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if Kz2 doesnt have a guy in a green powerranger suit then no.
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#16 -COOLIO-
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ps3 boards?
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#17 ianuilliam
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The Killzone franchise will NEVER beat Halo. Remember when people firstseen and heardof Killzone 1 for the PS2 people then said it was "the Halo killer," and come to find out it was FARRR from being a Halo killer. Killzone 1 was not that good of a game, so what makes people think that this one will be any better?...And looking at recent flops like>>Heavenly Sword & Lair...I'm not getting too thrilled over anymore hyped-up PS3 titles. So to answer the question, no Killzone 2 will not be "enough to challenge Halo 3's throne!"gamer082009

How can a game be a flop when it hasn't even come out yet?What makes a game a flop or not is if people buy it. Reviewers have a tendency to be retarded. Especially when some reviewers call a game terrible and others call it perfect. Now if EVERY reviewer gives a game low or high marks, there may be something to it. I'll still at the very least rent it to make up my own mind.

As for the topic here, Halo never appealed to me. Killzone 2 looks very impressive. I think Killzone will be the better game. I doubt it will outsell Halo though. You could take 'Hello Kitty Island Adventure' and replace the Hello Kitty graphics on the cover with Master Chief or whatever his name is and xboxxers would buy it.

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#18 MagMower
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if Kz2 doesnt have a guy in a green powerranger suit then no.HiImUPSMan
Bu... bu... Teh Master Chief!
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#19 inspectre
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There's a lot of myths going around about the Killzone-Halo relationship. The big myth is that Killzone was intended to "beat" Halo. Nope, Guerilla just wanted to make a good Sci-Fi FPS, but the press decided to make a war out of it. If you take Killzone on it's own it was "better" that Halo 1 in many ways, but they're different games doing different things. Haters tend to perpetuate the myth for unknown reasons.

As for the OP's question the answer is no. Killzone doesn't have an iconic character and mythology that will stick in people's heads like that. I've no reason to doubt that Killzone 2 will be a great experience though. As for Halo it does a couple of things well, and many things mediocre, but the overall expericence somehow comes together well enough that people tend to overlook the bad stuff.

I'm looking forward to both, but I have a feeling that Bungie just isn't up to it this time around. Halo 2 kinda sucked and it unfortunately showed how bad Bungie is in certain discipines. I'm looking forward to it, but compared to games like Half-Life, Bioshock, Call of Duty and Killzone 2--Halo will come up short.

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#20 Large_Soda
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I can end this one.

Halo 3 will be the better game for Xbox fanboys and Killzone 2 will be better for PS3 fanboys. Real human beings won't care because they will realize how good both games are and will play both and the only reason anyone would strongly defend one or the other is because they only have one console.

But from this early stage, what has KZ2 shown other than a 25 minute tech demo that leads all of these PS3 loyalists to believe it will be better? Is it hope? Is it fear? Who knows, the mind of a fanboy is shrouded in more mystery and depravity than a serial killer.

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#21 joevfx
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as much as i am a huge playstation fanboy, and want kz2 sooooo bad, there is no way ti will sell more then halo 3. Supossably halo 3 already has 4 million pre orders !!
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#22 GPAddict
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[QUOTE="army-of_one"]

Actually no. Not trying to troll, but you cows amaze me sometimes. Halo 2 sold 2 million copies on its first day. You really think killzone 2 will become top? lol, dont think so.

Claw17k

go back to the xbot board this is the ps3 board not the 'xbots troll here board'

what are you even doing here, xbot? you ******* xbot

Who gives a crap!? Just enjoy the games for what they have to offer, no matter what console/platform they are on!

And whether you like Halo3 or KillZone2, it doesn't matter, everyone's taste for games differs.

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#23 imaspin17
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Since this is posted in the Playstation forum, dont you think the answers will be slightly biased
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#24 XxXxGibboxXxX
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if Kz2 doesnt have a guy in a green powerranger suit then no.HiImUPSMan

if halo 3 doesent have a guy in a grey powwerranger suit then no.

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not very smart question on a ps3 forum
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#26 Symphonycometh
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[QUOTE="HiImUPSMan"]if Kz2 doesnt have a guy in a green powerranger suit then no.XxXxGibboxXxX

if halo 3 doesent have a guy in a grey powwerranger suit then no.

If it doesn't have the fanbase to apply pressure for the high rating, then no.

Beat that logic.:P

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#27 Game_Lover500
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Yeah it does
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#28 Chaos_Bladez
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I hate to make the never ending comparison between Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but if you had to choose one, what would it be?

After seeing this video, I'm going to have to go with Killzone just based off of singleplayer.

25 Minutes of Killzone

csstriker4
Read the bold. 2 different games. 2 different atmospheres. I've never played Halo so I don't know anyway.
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Why are people saying "Well even if KZ2 is better, Halo3 will sell better, so Halo3 wins! HAHAHAHAHA"

WTF? Are you brain dead?
So you are that much of a rabid fan boy, that just the fact that your game sells better makes you feel good inside?
And what if Halo3 ends up being a terrible game? Oh well, it had 4 million preorders, so that makes it better than KZ2..

I don't understand such moronic "logic" :/

And even if Halo3 "wins" because it sells more, you as the gamer lose...

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#30 Symphonycometh
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Why are people saying "Well even if KZ2 is better, Halo3 will sell better, so Halo3 wins! HAHAHAHAHA"

WTF? Are you brain dead?
So you are that much of a rabid fan boy, that just the fact that your game sells better makes you feel good inside?
And what if Halo3 ends up being a terrible game? Oh well, it had 4 million preorders, so that makes it better than KZ2..

I don't understand such moronic "logic" :/

Zell_Forever

Quote me next time so I know if you're talking to me. For shame on you.

And please tell me how asking if we're "brain dead" logical to you?

Some people...:roll:

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Why are people saying "Well even if KZ2 is better, Halo3 will sell better, so Halo3 wins! HAHAHAHAHA"

WTF? Are you brain dead?
So you are that much of a rabid fan boy, that just the fact that your game sells better makes you feel good inside?
And what if Halo3 ends up being a terrible game? Oh well, it had 4 million preorders, so that makes it better than KZ2..

I don't understand such moronic "logic" :/

And even if Halo3 "wins" because it sells more, you as the gamer lose...

Zell_Forever
true true...look at ico. epic game that hardly really sold much.
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#32 Zell_Forever
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[QUOTE="Zell_Forever"]

Why are people saying "Well even if KZ2 is better, Halo3 will sell better, so Halo3 wins! HAHAHAHAHA"

WTF? Are you brain dead?
So you are that much of a rabid fan boy, that just the fact that your game sells better makes you feel good inside?
And what if Halo3 ends up being a terrible game? Oh well, it had 4 million preorders, so that makes it better than KZ2..

I don't understand such moronic "logic" :/

Symphonycometh

Quote me next time so I know if you're talking to me. For shame on you.

And please tell me how asking if we're "brain dead" logical to you?

Some people...:roll:

Well now it DOES apply to you.

Honestly I wrote that post when I reached page 2... so if you wrote a comment like that, damn you are a moron.
If not, lay off the freaking eastrogen pills...

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#33 Symphonycometh
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[QUOTE="Zell_Forever"]

Why are people saying "Well even if KZ2 is better, Halo3 will sell better, so Halo3 wins! HAHAHAHAHA"

WTF? Are you brain dead?
So you are that much of a rabid fan boy, that just the fact that your game sells better makes you feel good inside?
And what if Halo3 ends up being a terrible game? Oh well, it had 4 million preorders, so that makes it better than KZ2..

I don't understand such moronic "logic" :/

And even if Halo3 "wins" because it sells more, you as the gamer lose...

CosmoKing7717

true true...look at ico. epic game that hardly really sold much.

Shadow of the Colossus should've been just as Epic as Halo in terms of sales and overall popularity in my opinion...but NOOO. Scores from Gamespot and overall lack of people wanting to try things differently kept this game from really taking of!:(

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#34 Symphonycometh
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[QUOTE="Symphonycometh"][QUOTE="Zell_Forever"]

Why are people saying "Well even if KZ2 is better, Halo3 will sell better, so Halo3 wins! HAHAHAHAHA"

WTF? Are you brain dead?
So you are that much of a rabid fan boy, that just the fact that your game sells better makes you feel good inside?
And what if Halo3 ends up being a terrible game? Oh well, it had 4 million preorders, so that makes it better than KZ2..

I don't understand such moronic "logic" :/

Zell_Forever

Quote me next time so I know if you're talking to me. For shame on you.

And please tell me how asking if we're "brain dead" logical to you?

Some people...:roll:

Well now it DOES apply to you.

Honestly I wrote that post when I reached page 2... so if you wrote a comment like that, damn you are a moron.
If not, lay off the freaking eastrogen pills...

Prove it or it's not valid. :P

I'll just remain the usual calm non-insulting me.:roll:

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#35 Krigon
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Just stop this. Killzone was getting hyped by the media as a Halo killer before and it "failed" miserably (much thanks to the hype).

Now do you guys want to go through that again. Killzone 2 will be great but it wont kill or steal the throne of another game thats on the rival console.

and if some game had a throne (of FPS i guess) it wouldn't be Halo.

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#36 Theibault
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No. Halo 3 is too much of a juggernaut.
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#37 justinblair2
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Well now it DOES apply to you.

Honestly I wrote that post when I reached page 2... so if you wrote a comment like that, damn you are a moron.
If not, lay off the freaking eastrogen pills...

Zell_Forever

Do you see what im saying here ?

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#38 Primevil702
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Halo 3 will be decent, but we don't have to look to Killzone 2 to see a game of better quality (IMO) - Unreal Tournament 3 will have the best MP without a doubt, at least that's what I think. Better visuals, better gameplay and just better in general - if Halo 2 is anything to go by, I'll dislike the Halo 3 MP just as much.
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#39 FireFalkon
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Halo 3 will be released this year, why KZ2 would challenge a 4 month old game? Halo has nothing new to show IMO, generic graphics, generic controls, generic gameplay, generic multiplayer, the entire halo franchise got so huge due to xbox's known lack of games, in fact one can say that halo is the only game the original xbox realy had, the enourmous amount of advertising and general media exposition helped as well.
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#40 RamboSymbiot
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I think Halo has this one. Im getting both games regardless
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#41 da1writer
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Actually in my opinion, the games are super different from eachother. In better comparison, Haze should be the challenger this year against Halo 3. Now Haze developers have said that they made the game an exclusive (not timed) for PC and PS3, dropping support of the Xbox 360 due to restrictions. The big guns for PS3 this year going against Halo 3 this year by verbatum of Sony is HAZE. Both games are futuristic shooters, having atmospheres similar to each other. Jungle... Both have em.Industrial areas... both have em. And a ton of other maps are the same. Both games will support4 player story andmultiplayer matches. If anyone does their research, Free Radical developers are Ex- developers of the Goldeneye game from N64 era. So this alone should tell you the multiplayer is going to be awesome, just like their Timesplitter Series. So again, multiplayer will both be great on the systems. Who would win in being the best this year, my opinion says Haze because I've seen enough Halo... I just never thought it was great as people have been leading me to believe (I have both PC versions, and they gather dust on my computer), it does have verygood multiplayer though.

Now if anything, KillZone2 is somewhat like Gears of War. Graphics engines look quite similar if you watch both games in motion, differences are Gears of War is using Unreal Engine 3 and Killzone 2is an engine built from the ground up. Killzone is a bit more chaotic than Gears of War. If I want to go more technical, Killzone 2 is bent on a war on the enemies planet and Gears of War is a bit of the same thing. So if anything, it's not good to compare the Killzone 2 and Halo 3 because they are completely different games. One looks better than the other in my opinion (the other I'm referring to looks more like a small update of the last game they made with that Master Sergeant), but time will tell I guess. It's hard to display Halo 3 as the King this Nest Generation for Xbox 360or Killzone 2 as the King of this Next Generation for PS3 because First Person Shooters seem to be poping up everywhere looking just as great or even Better. Bigger question come to mind, don't you?

Will Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3 beat Gears of War for Xbox 360, even though they are both made by the same game company?

Will Halo3 beat Gears of War or Bioshock for the Xbox 360or will it be a free for all for no one to actually really decide?

Will Killzone 2 be able to beat Unreal Tounament 3 or Haze for the PS3, or is it a far shot from perfection?

Will any First Person Shooter this year be able to beat the undeniable going to be great Call of Duty 4?

If anyone wants my real opinion, I frankly don't care which game is better because frankly they are all different but yet the same. I think all these First person shooters we'll be getting this year and next year are going to be great! No doubt about it. Whether you frag fest with friends on Halo 3, or go tear up the story with three other friends with Haze, enjoy the single playing gameplay of Bioshock, or run amuck around Unreal Tournamnets online battles, we are going to have the best year (and next)for First Person shooters we've ever had in a long time!

All I got to say is... Damn, are we spoiled or what ;)!

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Actually in my opinion, the games are super different from eachother. In better comparison, Haze should be the challenger this year against Halo 3. Now Haze developers have said that they made the game an exclusive (not timed) for PC and PS3, dropping support of the Xbox 360 due to restrictions. The big guns for PS3 this year going against Halo 3 this year by verbatum of Sony is HAZE. Both games are futuristic shooters, having atmospheres similar to each other. Jungle... Both have em.Industrial areas... both have em. And a ton of other maps are the same. Both games will support4 player story andmultiplayer matches. If anyone does their research, Free Radical developers are Ex- developers of the Goldeneye game from N64 era. So this alone should tell you the multiplayer is going to be awesome, just like their Timesplitter Series. So again, multiplayer will both be great on the systems. Who would win in being the best this year, my opinion says Haze because I've seen enough Halo... I just never thought it was great as people have been leading me to believe (I have both PC versions, and they gather dust on my computer), it does have verygood multiplayer though.

Now if anything, KillZone2 is somewhat like Gears of War. Graphics engines look quite similar if you watch both games in motion, differences are Gears of War is using Unreal Engine 3 and Killzone 2is an engine built from the ground up. Killzone is a bit more chaotic than Gears of War. If I want to go more technical, Killzone 2 is bent on a war on the enemies planet and Gears of War is a bit of the same thing. So if anything, it's not good to compare the Killzone 2 and Halo 3 because they are completely different games. One looks better than the other in my opinion (the other I'm referring to looks more like a small update of the last game they made with that Master Sergeant), but time will tell I guess. It's hard to display Halo 3 as the King this Nest Generation for Xbox 360or Killzone 2 as the King of this Next Generation for PS3 because First Person Shooters seem to be poping up everywhere looking just as great or even Better. Bigger question come to mind, don't you?

Will Unreal Tournament 3 for PS3 beat Gears of War for Xbox 360, even though they are both made by the same game company?

Will Halo3 beat Gears of War or Bioshock for the Xbox 360or will it be a free for all for no one to actually really decide?

Will Killzone 2 be able to beat Unreal Tounament 3 or Haze for the PS3, or is it a far shot from perfection?

Will any First Person Shooter this year be able to beat the undeniable going to be great Call of Duty 4?

All I got to say is... Damn, are we spoiled or what ;)!

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SO very true...I CANT WAIT FOR WHITE KNIGHT STORY(starting to finally get tired of all the fps's...but haze, killzone 2 and unreal will be amazing...personally i dont really like the unreal engine 3 too much cus things look kinda plasticy...all shiny and stuff...still amazing though)
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#43 generalsaladin
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If the AI is fixed, then I'm sure it can challenge Halo 3, but win? Maybe not. I'm saying this because Halo is just a damn addicting franchise. Yes, the story line is crap. Yes, the game is overhyped. But we all know, that us ps3 owners want something like halo. IMO Gears of war had a better singleplayer/storyline than halo. Killzone 2 has a chance!
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#44 LoG-Sacrament
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i think its a pretty possibility that kz2 will be a better game than halo3. however, halo3 has more than its qualities as a video game. its got the halo namebrand that will drive its sales. but who knows? maybe kz2 will start a trend.
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#45 luggymeister
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Actually no. Not trying to troll, but you cows amaze me sometimes. Halo 2 sold 2 million copies on its first day. You really think killzone 2 will become top? lol, dont think so.

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If you believe that a game is only good depending on how much it sells your an idiot.

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#46 Symphonycometh
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[QUOTE="army-of_one"]

Actually no. Not trying to troll, but you cows amaze me sometimes. Halo 2 sold 2 million copies on its first day. You really think killzone 2 will become top? lol, dont think so.

luggymeister

Amen.

If you believe that a game is only good depending on how much it sells your an idiot.

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#47 gamenux
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I hate to make the never ending comparison between Halo 3 and Killzone 2, but if you had to choose one, what would it be?

After seeing this video, I'm going to have to go with Killzone just based off of singleplayer.

25 Minutes of Killzone

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I hate to break it to you but HALO is not the king of FPS. PC is the king of FPS.

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#48 G-Legend
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In that video the dev said they're trying to make their own style so hopefully when it comes out it won't be dubbed Halo Killer if it's good but rather Killzone.
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#49 stygiansanity
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Halo 3, based on historical proof. Halo 1 and 2 were awesome games, on the other hand, K1 kinda sucked, despite the "holy crap that game has awesome graphics and sweet gameplay" of back then.
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#50 Tom1243
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HAlo is so overtated. E.g if i had the choice over Half Life or Halo, half life any day, better gameplay, gfx and story. Halo is just a good console FPS. Killzone 2 looks far more appealing, to me anyway.