I'm shouting: Where's all the RPG's?!

Ok already what's going on here? It's not just the PS3 suffering an almost complete lack of RPG's, it's all systems.

It's starting to get annoying. RPGs are the main reason I game, and I don't own a single one this gen. Unless you consider FallOut3 an RPG. Well, actually I have one but it blows pretty bad: Chocobo's Dungeon (Wii).

I keep looking at release lists for all systems and don't really see anything outside the handhelds.

Are there any RPG'ers here who feel as starved as I do for some RPG action? Let's start shouting!

Ok already what's going on here? It's not just the PS3 suffering an almost complete lack of RPG's, it's all systems.

It's starting to get annoying. RPGs are the main reason I game, and I don't own a single one this gen. Unless you consider FallOut3 an RPG. Well, actually I have one but it blows pretty bad: Chocobo's Dungeon (Wii).

I keep looking at release lists for all systems and don't really see anything outside the handhelds.

Are there any RPG'ers here who feel as starved as I do for some RPG action? Let's start shouting!

Conjuration

hiding under ps2 and psx.

Check out Eternal Sonata and Valkyria Chronicles also Tales of Vesperia is coming to the PS3 soon and dont worry i think more RPG's will be coming out soon

what is acctualy a Rpg,i prob kno what it is just cant think of it.dale_brah

It's difficult to define. I'm not taking the words "role-playing game" and over analyzing it like most net nerds like to. I'm taking it back to its original meaning: A turn-based (or action) adventure game where you explore new worlds and gain exp to upgrade your character while collecting and possibly creating new and exciting forms of weapons and armor, and magic as well.

RPGs needs FF franchise to open the gate for the system.

If you are complaining about lack of RPGs and own a PS3 and haven't checked out Valkyria Chronicles, then you're doing something wrong. And for 30$ new at Gamestop?

But yes, I'm also personally waiting for White Knight Chronicles and Final Fantasy XIII.

Plenty of RPG's out this year I think. Aren't Sony Online working on a load of MMO's too? Plus NC-Soft are working on a few exclusives also I think.

Eternal Sonata is worth the time and the money. Be patient there are some, hopefully, good RPGs on the horizon.

The problem is, a lot are out, but most of them won't even see the light outside of japan

- Demon's souls
-cross edge (coming in NA)
- Atelier Rorona
- Uncharted Waters Online

That's just some, I have videos of some others on my ps3 (I went to fetch them on japan PSN)

Not like we won't get any rpg in the future though, but we miss some that seems to be very good (still on the fence about importing Demon's souls)

Ok already what's going on here? It's not just the PS3 suffering an almost complete lack of RPG's, it's all systems.

It's starting to get annoying. RPGs are the main reason I game, and I don't own a single one this gen. Unless you consider FallOut3 an RPG. Well, actually I have one but it blows pretty bad: Chocobo's Dungeon (Wii).

I keep looking at release lists for all systems and don't really see anything outside the handhelds.

Are there any RPG'ers here who feel as starved as I do for some RPG action? Let's start shouting!

Conjuration

Oh, two new RPGs coming to the PS3 at some time you should also keep an eye on are :

Dragon Age : Origins and Blade and Soul (I think that's the name, it's made by NCSoft, the guys who did guild wars). Add that to upcoming games like White Knight and Final Fantasy, you have a decent selection of RPGs in the future.

If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Silent-Hal

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

Like the others said, Tales of Vesperia is coming to PS3 which excites me greatly. I also imagine some of the other jrpg's on 360 will be coming to PS3 eventually when the devs realize that the system doesn't move those games as much as PS3 because there are minimal 360 sales in Japan. Be patient. However, if you want a traditional turn-based one like in the SNES or PS1 days, you will probably be a bit dissappointed because it seems like devs are moving away from those and we don't see as many period. FFXIII will be good for you I'm sure and I'm looking forward to that as well. HOpefully Star Ocean 4 makes it to PS3 as well.

And just for the record, I like turn-based, traditional console RPG's as well; but I think Oblivion is a GREAT game. Very addictive and different from what I'm used to playing.

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Conjuration

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

Ok already what's going on here? It's not just the PS3 suffering an almost complete lack of RPG's, it's all systems.

It's starting to get annoying. RPGs are the main reason I game, and I don't own a single one this gen. Unless you consider FallOut3 an RPG. Well, actually I have one but it blows pretty bad: Chocobo's Dungeon (Wii).

I keep looking at release lists for all systems and don't really see anything outside the handhelds.

Are there any RPG'ers here who feel as starved as I do for some RPG action? Let's start shouting!

Conjuration

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Conjuration

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Silent-Hal

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Silent-Hal

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

He didn't like the demo, so he didn't get it. Does that make him any less of RPG fan? NO

I'm HUGE JRPG fan, and I got Valkyrie Chronicles. I find it decent and vastly overrated. On PS3, except for Eternal Sonata, I don't see any RPGs that I consider it a must have.

He's entitled to what he likes and dislike. If he is RPG fan and if he can't find an RPG that fits his taste, then obviously the system lacks the games of that genre.

middle east , lol jk bt hey there are some ...eternal sonata , Valkyria chronicles and wk , ffxiii and tov on the way

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Conjuration

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

Then you dont really like RPG's then cause all those RPG's are GREAT

[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]If you're saying this without having played Valkyria Chronicles then shut the hell up, go out and do so. It's the best RPG out for the PS3 in my humble opinion. People always make these sorts of complaints without checking out what RPGs are available on the system first. If that's still not enough, check out Oblivion, Folklore, Eternal Sonata and Disgaea 3 as well. Silent-Hal

Don't ever tell me to shut the hell up. I've played the demo for that game and didn't enjoy it.
And the other titles you mentioned are weak. WEAK. And that includes the massively overrated Oblivion. It's all meh. I want something that doesn't suck.

Wow, way to think your opinion is the only one that counts.:roll:

Now I'm not the biggest RPG fan but I do really enjoy them, mainly because of the exploration and feeling of progression. Both of those are present in the Final Fantasy series and Fallout 3. For me, that's what is really fun about RPGs. Valkyria Chronicles has NONE of that. That's why I didn't really like the demo nor do I find any interest in the game. It's no secret that the PS3 is extremely weak in the RPG department compared to it's predecessors. Hopefully, Tales of Vesperia and White Knight Chronicles will change that along with Final Fantasy XIII next year.

Ok already what's going on here? It's not just the PS3 suffering an almost complete lack of RPG's, it's all systems.

It's starting to get annoying. RPGs are the main reason I game, and I don't own a single one this gen. Unless you consider FallOut3 an RPG. Well, actually I have one but it blows pretty bad: Chocobo's Dungeon (Wii).

I keep looking at release lists for all systems and don't really see anything outside the handhelds.

Are there any RPG'ers here who feel as starved as I do for some RPG action? Let's start shouting!

Conjuration

you have good RPG's, like The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion; Fallout3 (if you consider that game an RPG); Eternal Sonata and Valkyria Chronicles :)

valkyria chronicles is more of an rts then and rpg, yeah its got a few rpg qualities to it but i dont understand why anyone would call it an rpg its a stretch to say the least in my opinion. its a great game non the lessclarkportmanken

still if we exclude valkyria chronicles, there are still good rpg's

I have The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and the game is just amazing, and huge :)

[QUOTE="clarkportmanken"]valkyria chronicles is more of an rts then and rpg, yeah its got a few rpg qualities to it but i dont understand why anyone would call it an rpg its a stretch to say the least in my opinion. its a great game non the lessFireFox67

still if we exclude valkyria chronicles, there are still good rpg's

I have The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and the game is just amazing, and huge :)

It has seemed like it has only been FPS coming out lately. I am crying for one too. I have to go get Valkyria Chronicles.

[QUOTE="FireFox67"]

[QUOTE="clarkportmanken"]valkyria chronicles is more of an rts then and rpg, yeah its got a few rpg qualities to it but i dont understand why anyone would call it an rpg its a stretch to say the least in my opinion. its a great game non the lessclarkportmanken

still if we exclude valkyria chronicles, there are still good rpg's

I have The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and the game is just amazing, and huge :)

got to admit that I'm not a big fan of RPG's, for PS2 I haven't played any RPG, but for PS3, I have played Oblivion and valkyria chronicles, but yeah I agree with you, when you say that there aren't that many RPG in the PS3 system, but the RPG that I have and played are good, so I can't complain :P

No there are not tons of RPGs for the PS3 like the PS2 had,but there are some good ones out there and good ones coming out.All you have to do is be abit patient.It is alot better then it use to be about two years ago.K1LLR3175

agree, I think it is better to wait and get good games, that have many games, in little timethat are no good

No there are not tons of RPGs for the PS3 like the PS2 had,but there are some good ones out there and good ones coming out.All you have to do is be abit patient.It is alot better then it use to be about two years ago.K1LLR3175

Normally, waiting would be easy. JRPG fans are used to waiting.

But this generation, if you bought PS3 expecting similar JRPG flood from PS1 and PS2, then waiting becomes bit more difficult as many JRPGs are showing up on other systems instead. Star Ocean 4 for 360 and Dragon Quest sequels on DS and Wii makes things quite uncomfortable for me to wait without seeing any positive news.

Just because there are not a ton of them doesn't mean they aren't there. The PS3 has quality RPGs and more are coming: Cross Edge, White Knight Chronicles, FFXIII, etc. Plus, PS3 has the best RPG on any of the next-gen systems in Valkyria Chronicles.

The Wii is really the only console lacking RPGs, but even that is starting to get some more with titles like Rune Factory Frontier, Little King's Story, Tales of Graces, and I think Muramasa is kind of an RPG.

Just because there are not a ton of them doesn't mean they aren't there. The PS3 has quality RPGs and more are coming: Cross Edge, White Knight Chronicles, FFXIII, etc. Plus, PS3 has the best RPG on any of the next-gen systems in Valkyria Chronicles.

The Wii is really the only console lacking RPGs, but even that is starting to get some more with titles like Rune Factory Frontier, Little King's Story, Tales of Graces, and I think Muramasa is kind of an RPG.

yokofox33

c'mon you can't be serious.

Cross Edge is a niche game, White Knight Chronicles didn't get a encouraging reception is Japan, and FFXIII is coming out on 360 as well.

And Valkyria Chronicles is turn based strategy game, not really a RPG.

At the moment, only real bright RPG news PS3 has is FF vs XIII.

Wii might not have much RPGs at the moment, but you can bet plenty will follow after Dragon Quest X is released on it. That will secure Japanese RPG fans for the system which will make it comfortable for other companies to develop the games for.

360 is turning it around slowly by securing many high profile JRPGs. They still didn't land any big hitter as exclusive (Star Ocean 4 was semi big) so it's not too impressive at the moment, but once it happens then flood of JRPGs will follow it and Microsoft is certainly showing some good efforts on it.

I want to hear some positive news. Maybe Legend of Dragoon 2 announcement or something. Give me SOMETHING.

[QUOTE="yokofox33"]

Just because there are not a ton of them doesn't mean they aren't there. The PS3 has quality RPGs and more are coming: Cross Edge, White Knight Chronicles, FFXIII, etc. Plus, PS3 has the best RPG on any of the next-gen systems in Valkyria Chronicles.

The Wii is really the only console lacking RPGs, but even that is starting to get some more with titles like Rune Factory Frontier, Little King's Story, Tales of Graces, and I think Muramasa is kind of an RPG.

TriangleHard

c'mon you can't be serious.

Cross Edge is a niche game, White Knight Chronicles didn't get a encouraging reception is Japan, and FFXIII is coming out on 360 as well.

And Valkyria Chronicles is turn based strategy game, not really a RPG.

At the moment, only real bright RPG news PS3 has is FF vs XIII.

Wii might not have much RPGs at the moment, but you can bet plenty will follow after Dragon Quest X is released on it. That will secure Japanese RPG fans for the system which will make it comfortable for other companies to develop the games for.

360 is turning it around slowly by securing many high profile JRPGs. They still didn't land any big hitter as exclusive (Star Ocean 4 was semi big) so it's not too impressive at the moment, but once it happens then flood of JRPGs will follow it and Microsoft is certainly showing some good efforts on it.

I want to hear some positive news. Maybe Legend of Dragoon 2 announcement or something. Give me SOMETHING.

I am absolutely serious. Just because it's a niche game doesn't mean Cross Edge won't be a good game. Not every RPG has to be a huge game. White Knight Chronicles will be a big RPG though and a lot of people are excited for it. And so what if FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? A good RPG is a good RPG whether it's exclusive or multi-plat. Valkyria Chronicles is a strategy game first, but it has RPG elements. I think you want exclusives for the PS3, but I could care less if they are exclusive or not. I want to play the game, not the system. Every RPG out for the PS3 is solid, even if almost all of them are multi-plat. I'm excited for the games to be coming out, so I'm sorry if you're not. Obviously we have different mindsets, which is ok :)

I already mentioned the Wii is on the upturn as well. 360 has solid JRPGs, but nothing special other than Vesperia and even that's coming to the PS3. The 360's "high profile" games are nothing great (The Last Remnant, Blue Dragon, etc.)

Valkyria Chronicles is an RPG. There is such a thing called sub genres. They are terms under the umbrella of RPG. There are quest RPG's such as Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger and the Tales series. Strategy RPG's are games such as Fire Emblem, Front Mission, Disgaea. We still have Cross Edge, White Knight Chronicles, Demon Souls, and a few others. Just because the legendary Famitsu didn't give White Knight the best score ever doesn't mean anything. European and American reviewers have different opinions than that of the Japanese. White Knight is a more Western like than any previous JRPG's. Famitsu gave Tales of Vesperia a perfect 10 and others did not. From what I hear,Star Ocean, is nota must have game and doesn't really seem to be. It just feels like atweak of the 3rd.

Valkyria Chronicles is an RPG. There is such a thing called sub genres. They are terms under the umbrella of RPG. There are quest RPG's such as Final Fantasy, Chrono Trigger and the Tales series. Strategy RPG's are games such as Fire Emblem, Front Mission, Disgaea. We still have Cross Edge, White Knight Chronicles, Demon Souls, and a few others. Just because the legendary Famitsu didn't give White Knight the best score ever doesn't mean anything. European and American reviewers have different opinions than that of the Japanese. White Knight is a more Western like than any previous JRPG's. Famitsu gave Tales of Vesperia a perfect 10 and others did not. From what I hear,Star Ocean, is nota must have game and doesn't really seem to be. It just feels like atweak of the 3rd.

gamenerd15

i agree with you completly

sounds like you like Jrpg type of games and not the western rpgs like fallout

people are saying that there are plenty of rpgs that are out there

but what we really need are some really good, blockbuster rpgs like FF or KH and not **** like valkyria chronicles

here here my friend get some rpg's on the systems8)

go to finalstar2007's topic, he has a few upcoming rpg scans...Rakuho

their are a number of RPGs for PS3 coming this year and next.

I am absolutely serious. Just because it's a niche game doesn't mean Cross Edge won't be a good game. Not every RPG has to be a huge game. White Knight Chronicles will be a big RPG though and a lot of people are excited for it. And so what if FFXIII is coming to the 360 as well? A good RPG is a good RPG whether it's exclusive or multi-plat. Valkyria Chronicles is a strategy game first, but it has RPG elements. I think you want exclusives for the PS3, but I could care less if they are exclusive or not. I want to play the game, not the system. Every RPG out for the PS3 is solid, even if almost all of them are multi-plat. I'm excited for the games to be coming out, so I'm sorry if you're not. Obviously we have different mindsets, which is ok :)

I already mentioned the Wii is on the upturn as well. 360 has solid JRPGs, but nothing special other than Vesperia and even that's coming to the PS3. The 360's "high profile" games are nothing great (The Last Remnant, Blue Dragon, etc.)

yokofox33

First, the whole point of me mentioning big budget game is because smaller titles tends to follow the big title.

JRPG fans have selective taste, so just randomly throwing JRPG to a system proved to be formula for failures for JRPG developers. Which is why they always wait for Final Fantasy to come out to know for sure that there are 5 million+ JRPG fans having the particular system.

Variety in JRPG is very important to me since i've been burned by the media calling cr@p AAA while true gem getting mediocre rating (the entire Valkyrie Profile for example)

That variety doesn't come unless a company sets a wave of JRPGs to particular system. Final Fantasy is able to do that, but this gen it is less reliable thanks to it going multi-platform. Dragon Quest is the other, which is going to DS and Wii.

and no, Valkyria Chronicles is not a RPG. I see nothing RPG about it. Maybe leveling, but so many games have leveling these days, and we don't call those RPG. Equipment? also just about every game seems to have those these days. This is just plain ol' strategy game, there is no sub genre and no nothing. There is no exploration, and NPC chatting is nearly zero. I had more interaction in Romance of the Three Kingdom games, which is a game that no one will mistake it for RPG.

I feel like only reason Valkyria Chronicles is called JRPG is because it's made in Japan, and it has anime styled cut scene which seems to make people automatically think "oh! it must be JRPG!"

Number of games is often more important than quality of the games. People like variety and people's value towards a game is subjective. Give me 100 marios, and it will worth less than 1 Rule of Rose to me. PS1 and PS2 didn't have major success just because it had quality games, but because it had largest quantity of games.

So considering all that, yes PS3 future looks shaky at best for the moment when it comes to RPGs. I think my assessment of the situation is fairly accurate considering how the history of gaming industry looked like, and current situation of the industry.