I think sony should come out with an extremly down graded verison of the PS3...

I think they should first make a ps3 that hasa stripped downblue ray player or DVD that devs could still make games on for both verison, if thats even possiable. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60gb down to a 30 gb. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two of the down graded versiion is or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit drop the down graded verison and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and beable to fully fuction as a fast pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause the gaming divion to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. I wwould want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, kids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads

This is much better, why don't Sony stop selling PS3? You prefer that? No BD player? no backwards capabilities? no HDMI? sounds like the other console to me. Sigh. Get some job then you could afford that.setyono

[QUOTE="setyono"]This is much better, why don't Sony stop selling PS3? You prefer that? No BD player? no backwards capabilities? no HDMI? sounds like the other console to me. Sigh. Get some job then you could afford that.Dogmatic923

downgraded PS3 is fine, but not that extreme. no BD no backward capability and no HDMI, I bought the PS3 because it can play BD movies, ps2 and ps1 games, and also displaying 1080p. That's the main reason I bought it. So those features should be kept.

Sony must be looking for you right now, you're a goldmine of good ideas. Maybe you have ideas for 800 movies starring Adam Sandler you could pitch to the movie studios?
AlienOverlord

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="setyono"]This is much better, why don't Sony stop selling PS3? You prefer that? No BD player? no backwards capabilities? no HDMI? sounds like the other console to me. Sigh. Get some job then you could afford that.setyono

downgraded PS3 is fine, but not that extreme. no BD no backward capability and no HDMI, I bought the PS3 because it can play BD movies, ps2 and ps1 games, and also displaying 1080p. That's the main reason I bought it. So those features should be kept.

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="setyono"]This is much better, why don't Sony stop selling PS3? You prefer that? No BD player? no backwards capabilities? no HDMI? sounds like the other console to me. Sigh. Get some job then you could afford that.setyono

downgraded PS3 is fine, but not that extreme. no BD no backward capability and no HDMI, I bought the PS3 because it can play BD movies, ps2 and ps1 games, and also displaying 1080p. That's the main reason I bought it. So those features should be kept.

oh so you were being serious here....hmmm. Ok you see with your gimped version it isn't impossible, but what you'd be asking developers to do is basically create 2 different versions of a game for the ps3, while they already have a hard enough time creating it for the ps3 at all. And after taking out all that stuff you'd still suggest they price it at $300? aznkid2o9

Wow, I really thought you were making a joke thread. When the X360 and PS3 were still just rumors I had been excited about both systems. When I found out the X360 would have a version that didn't have a hard drive i was immediately turned off. Why make two versions of a system that have different specs? That just means the developpers have to make games for the weaker version which would mean there is no point in making the better version. The X360 can't use the hard drive to help load things faster while playing a game and because the HD Dvd drive is sold seperatly no games will ever be made using the extra space that HD dvd affords.

Had sony followed your plan from the beggining then there wouldn't be any games on Bluray or any games that run at 1080p. People could buy the delux $5 burger version of the PS3 but it could only play games made for the 99 cent value PS3.

If there was an exttremly down graded version that just played current geration games i know it would sell to the masses. Case people like us who are hyper critical when it comes to things like this are a true minority in the big picture and the sales stats don't lie. Dogmatic923

There is an extremely downgraded version, it's called PS2. You're right, it did sell to the masses. It's still got games coming out so you can play it until you're ready to buy an HDTV and step up to the current generation of gaming and buy a PS3.

[QUOTE="setyono"]

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="setyono"]This is much better, why don't Sony stop selling PS3? You prefer that? No BD player? no backwards capabilities? no HDMI? sounds like the other console to me. Sigh. Get some job then you could afford that.Dogmatic923

downgraded PS3 is fine, but not that extreme. no BD no backward capability and no HDMI, I bought the PS3 because it can play BD movies, ps2 and ps1 games, and also displaying 1080p. That's the main reason I bought it. So those features should be kept.

That's what the whole transition period is for. Yeah, some people might not know what that is, but that's why people are still buying PS2's. If you want a worthless PS3, then fine, but don't think that the other world should miss out on everything the PS3 has to offer.

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"]If there was an exttremly down graded version that just played current geration games i know it would sell to the masses. Case people like us who are hyper critical when it comes to things like this are a true minority in the big picture and the sales stats don't lie. AlienOverlord

There is an extremely downgraded version, it's called PS2. You're right, it did sell to the masses. It's still got games coming out so you can play it until you're ready to buy an HDTV and step up to the current generation of gaming and buy a PS3.

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="setyono"]

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="setyono"]This is much better, why don't Sony stop selling PS3? You prefer that? No BD player? no backwards capabilities? no HDMI? sounds like the other console to me. Sigh. Get some job then you could afford that.jdogthebomb09

downgraded PS3 is fine, but not that extreme. no BD no backward capability and no HDMI, I bought the PS3 because it can play BD movies, ps2 and ps1 games, and also displaying 1080p. That's the main reason I bought it. So those features should be kept.

That's what the whole transition period is for. Yeah, some people might not know what that is, but that's why people are still buying PS2's. If you want a worthless PS3, then fine, but don't think that the other world should miss out on everything the PS3 has to offer.

I think they should first make a ps3 that has no blue ray player or DVD player for that matter in it. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60 gig down to a 30 gig. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two or three years of the down graded version for sale on the market or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit, thendrop the down graded verison down to 200 and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and be able to fully fuction as a fast high end pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause i wouldn't want the gaming divison to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. This woiuld hopefully create a higher demand. I would want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, orkids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads, however included in the marketingploy i would makesure dads would really want it and do a segement on how the whole family could enjoy it, for games, etc.but for starters, they first need to rebound and tap into the semi gamers market to help establish its self.

Dogmatic923

Done before, its called a PS2.

Why not wait for a price drop or until you have the money like everyone else? Cheap or not if you want it badly enough you will get it.Puppa_Shogun

[QUOTE="Puppa_Shogun"]Why not wait for a price drop or until you have the money like everyone else? Cheap or not if you want it badly enough you will get it.Dogmatic923

ps3 wont flop. end of story.

[QUOTE="Puppa_Shogun"]Why not wait for a price drop or until you have the money like everyone else? Cheap or not if you want it badly enough you will get it.Dogmatic923

I wouldnt start worrying now, the console itself is relatively young and dont forget that there are some killer titles to be released for the PS3 in 2007/2008, so theres still plenty to look forward to.

And also remember that most the criticisms have been produced by microsoft fanboys, so dont let that bother you too much.

The Future is bright, the future is the PS3. So please scrap this silly idea of a "downgraded PS3" and enjoy your console for the sheer excellence that it is, and let sony deal with trying to increase sales, trust me they know what theyre doing and the success of the PS1/PS2 proves exactly just that.

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="Puppa_Shogun"]Why not wait for a price drop or until you have the money like everyone else? Cheap or not if you want it badly enough you will get it.hama666

I wouldnt start worrying now, the console itself is relatively young and dont forget that there are some killer titles to be released for the PS3 in 2007/2008, so theres still plenty to look forward to.

And also remember that most the criticisms have been produced by microsoft fanboys, so dont let that bother you too much.

The Future is bright, the future is the PS3. So please scrap this silly idea of a "downgraded PS3" and enjoy your console for the sheer excellence that it is, and let sony deal with trying to increase sales, trust me they know what theyre doing and the success of the PS1/PS2 proves exactly just that.

[QUOTE="hama666"]

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="Puppa_Shogun"]Why not wait for a price drop or until you have the money like everyone else? Cheap or not if you want it badly enough you will get it.Dogmatic923

I wouldnt start worrying now, the console itself is relatively young and dont forget that there are some killer titles to be released for the PS3 in 2007/2008, so theres still plenty to look forward to.

And also remember that most the criticisms have been produced by microsoft fanboys, so dont let that bother you too much.

The Future is bright, the future is the PS3. So please scrap this silly idea of a "downgraded PS3" and enjoy your console for the sheer excellence that it is, and let sony deal with trying to increase sales, trust me they know what theyre doing and the success of the PS1/PS2 proves exactly just that.

Owning a console at launch is a very topsy-turvy experience. You just dont know whats going to happen and you have no idea what to expect in the future.

Just look at the PS2 and the dreamcast; the ps2 had a flop of a start where as the dreamcast's launch went very smoothly and within the first 2 years the console looked very promising. However dont forget that a few years later the dreamcast flopped into dismay and the PS2 went on to be the most successful games console ever.

My point is never make conclusions from the beginning, and dont let the cons grief you.

Just remember that we dont know what the situation will be like 2 years from now and that anything is possible.

The only assurance you can possibly live on is that Sony have had vast amounts of experience coupled with success so we should expect to trust them and believe that they know what theyre doing.

some of the stuff dogmatic said did actually make sense but u really can't remove BD because thats one of the reasons that the PS3 is so awesome.... i think that many people do not want to pay for a video game console but wat most people fail to realize is that the PS3 is an ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM..... and lets face it, with all of the updates coming out the PS3 will eventually be able to do anything... even cook my dinner and arrange my dates lmao jp i can do dat stuff myself but still i think Sony should do this... leave the 60 GB version out on sale but instead offer a version with around15 GB(idk wat icould possibly do with 60 GB or even 15 GB besides game demos)remove HDMI and use component A/V instead which is much cheaper and just as good... include a wired controller... no complact flash/SD/micro??? slots lol ummm no more wi-fi oh and instead of the blu-ray being able to play movies they should sell that function as an add-on like Microsoft did i hope i didnt sound stupid... does any1 agree with me?urio1

It wouldnt be possible to be honest. The 360 uses the HD-DVD drive as an optional addition, however its not the console's game format. DVD-9 is what the 360 uses. Whereas blu-ray more or less IS the PS3. All PS3 game discs are formatted in blu-ray discs and it is blu-ray which makes the PS3 seem superior to the 360. If they got rid of it, it would just be a glorified PS2 with better visuals. And thats only going to harm sales even further.

some of the stuff dogmatic said did actually make sense but u really can't remove BD because thats one of the reasons that the PS3 is so awesome.... i think that many people do not want to pay for a video game console but wat most people fail to realize is that the PS3 is an ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM..... and lets face it, with all of the updates coming out the PS3 will eventually be able to do anything... even cook my dinner and arrange my dates lmao jp i can do dat stuff myself but still i think Sony should do this... leave the 60 GB version out on sale but instead offer a version with around15 GB(idk wat icould possibly do with 60 GB or even 15 GB besides game demos)remove HDMI and use component A/V instead which is much cheaper and just as good... include a wired controller... no complact flash/SD/micro??? slots lol ummm no more wi-fi oh and instead of the blu-ray being able to play movies they should sell that function as an add-on like Microsoft did i hope i didnt sound stupid... does any1 agree with me?urio1

some of the stuff dogmatic said did actually make sense but u really can't remove BD because thats one of the reasons that the PS3 is so awesome.... i think that many people do not want to pay for a video game console but wat most people fail to realize is that the PS3 is an ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM..... and lets face it, with all of the updates coming out the PS3 will eventually be able to do anything... even cook my dinner and arrange my dates lmao jp i can do dat stuff myself but still i think Sony should do this... leave the 60 GB version out on sale but instead offer a version with around15 GB(idk wat icould possibly do with 60 GB or even 15 GB besides game demos)remove HDMI and use component A/V instead which is much cheaper and just as good... include a wired controller... no complact flash/SD/micro??? slots lol ummm no more wi-fi oh and instead of the blu-ray being able to play movies they should sell that function as an add-on like Microsoft did i hope i didnt sound stupid... does any1 agree with me?urio1

[QUOTE="urio1"]some of the stuff dogmatic said did actually make sense but u really can't remove BD because thats one of the reasons that the PS3 is so awesome.... i think that many people do not want to pay for a video game console but wat most people fail to realize is that the PS3 is an ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM..... and lets face it, with all of the updates coming out the PS3 will eventually be able to do anything... even cook my dinner and arrange my dates lmao jp i can do dat stuff myself but still i think Sony should do this... leave the 60 GB version out on sale but instead offer a version with around15 GB(idk wat icould possibly do with 60 GB or even 15 GB besides game demos)remove HDMI and use component A/V instead which is much cheaper and just as good... include a wired controller... no complact flash/SD/micro??? slots lol ummm no more wi-fi oh and instead of the blu-ray being able to play movies they should sell that function as an add-on like Microsoft did i hope i didnt sound stupid... does any1 agree with me?lovetheblindone

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well to be honest I dont see why the 20gb ps3 was such a bad idea. It was practically the same as a premium 360 and at a similar price, that can hardly be a bad thing.

WOW...
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[QUOTE="Password1233456"]WOW...
They had one, but it was **** and they realized it was a terrible idea, so they took it off production. Remember, No Wifi, 20Gb HDD, No Memory Stick Slots for $500.hama666

well to be honest I dont see why the 20gb ps3 was such a bad idea. It was practically the same as a premium 360 and at a similar price, that can hardly be a bad thing.

[QUOTE="Password1233456"]WOW...
They had one, but it was **** and they realized it was a terrible idea, so they took it off production. Remember, No Wifi, 20Gb HDD, No Memory Stick Slots for $500.Dogmatic923

[QUOTE="Puppa_Shogun"]Why not wait for a price drop or until you have the money like everyone else? Cheap or not if you want it badly enough you will get it.Dogmatic923

The only cons are the lack of good games and the price. Lack of good games will soon change... Price is being 'redesgined' according to Sony. So both cons will change in the near future

[QUOTE="hama666"]

[QUOTE="Password1233456"]WOW...
They had one, but it was **** and they realized it was a terrible idea, so they took it off production. Remember, No Wifi, 20Gb HDD, No Memory Stick Slots for $500.Dogmatic923

well to be honest I dont see why the 20gb ps3 was such a bad idea. It was practically the same as a premium 360 and at a similar price, that can hardly be a bad thing.

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"]

I think they should first make a ps3 that hasa stripped downblue ray player or DVD that devs could still make games on for both verison, if thats even possiable. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60gb down to a 30 gb. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two of the down graded versiion is or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit drop the down graded verison and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and beable to fully fuction as a fast pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause the gaming divion to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. I wwould want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, kids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads

player2k

thats why you dont work for sony and u just blog lol ... that was the dumbest stuff i've heard since it was was said that paris hilton got punished more harshly than she should have

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="Password1233456"]WOW...
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The wii? that thing is a glorified gamecube, we should NEVER be comparing the Wii to the sheer power of the ps3!

[QUOTE="player2k"][QUOTE="Dogmatic923"]

I think they should first make a ps3 that hasa stripped downblue ray player or DVD that devs could still make games on for both verison, if thats even possiable. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60gb down to a 30 gb. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two of the down graded versiion is or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit drop the down graded verison and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and beable to fully fuction as a fast pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause the gaming divion to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. I wwould want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, kids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads

Dogmatic923

thats why you dont work for sony and u just blog lol ... that was the dumbest stuff i've heard since it was was said that paris hilton got punished more harshly than she should have

[QUOTE="Password1233456"][QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="Password1233456"]WOW...
They had one, but it was **** and they realized it was a terrible idea, so they took it off production. Remember, No Wifi, 20Gb HDD, No Memory Stick Slots for $500.hama666

The wii? that thing is a glorified gamecube, we should NEVER be comparing the Wii to the sheer power of the ps3!

[QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="player2k"][QUOTE="Dogmatic923"]

I think they should first make a ps3 that hasa stripped downblue ray player or DVD that devs could still make games on for both verison, if thats even possiable. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60gb down to a 30 gb. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two of the down graded versiion is or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit drop the down graded verison and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and beable to fully fuction as a fast pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause the gaming divion to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. I wwould want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, kids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads

Password1233456

thats why you dont work for sony and u just blog lol ... that was the dumbest stuff i've heard since it was was said that paris hilton got punished more harshly than she should have

[QUOTE="Password1233456"][QUOTE="Dogmatic923"][QUOTE="player2k"][QUOTE="Dogmatic923"]

I think they should first make a ps3 that hasa stripped downblue ray player or DVD that devs could still make games on for both verison, if thats even possiable. This way if someone really wants the dvd player in their ps3 they would just end up buying the $600 version. I think they should take out the WIFI, and drop the 60gb down to a 30 gb. Also, take out all backwards capabilities technology. Then sell the system for $300 without a wireless controller and with a wired one. Also, take out the HDMI ports it that save money too.

This way they get there price cut without having to lose more money and go into the red zone deeper. They would probably reach deep into the 100 million fan pool all more.

And right before i would launch this down graded version, i would have MGS3, FFIII, and KZ2 (assuming it would live up to the hype) ready forbuyingthe same day as the new console.

I think they would sell millions more consoles, and then they could focus on getting more third party support. After, two of the down graded versiion is or they started seeing that they have broke even or was making a profit drop the down graded verison and introduce our 600 version for 450, and then have another ps3, that would have some amazing features like playing 600 channels of tv through the ps3 that would rival any satilight or cable networks. and beable to fully fuction as a fast pc. Alos, coming up with a brilliant new control system that dwarfs the wii. Then i would not sell very many and cause the gaming divion to go into the red, but i would slowily introduce it into the market at 150 more than it would cost to make, probabley around 800. I wwould want to market it so the games would look more like an a side thing rather than a gaming system. I would want to target fathers, and not moms, kids. It would have every sports channle. easy to use recording devise to be able to record several games at once then watch them all latter. If the PS3 is really 1/4 the power of a super computer i would take full advatage of every thing i could and market it to the real descison makers. THe dads

Dogmatic923

thats why you dont work for sony and u just blog lol ... that was the dumbest stuff i've heard since it was was said that paris hilton got punished more harshly than she should have