Has Oblivion changed the way you feel about JRPG's?

      I used to be a big Japenese stlye RPG fan, until I played Oblivion. I just couldn't see myself going back to games like Final Fantasy. For a few reasons.

>I will feel to confined, (by having to take paths) It will seem to boring, being so limited on what things you can do.

>Ill have to go back to the take-turn system (unless they put the real time combat system in again but make it less sucky, (Final Fantasy 12))

>Doesn't give me enough to do ever since I played already 100+ hours of Oblivion (sad I know lol)

       How about you guys? Also, does anyone know of any more RPG's that will a sandbox type game, like Oblivion?

I actually feel the opposite way. I still prefer the japanese RPGs and I horribly dislike the idea of roaming for hours on end just trying to find what you are supposed to do. I play video games mostly for their narratives, the same reason I watch movies. That's why I love games like MGS. When I play a game like Oblivion or GTA, I play to advance th story, not piss away hours walking in circles because the game is "open".

I much prefer the stories that japanese RPGs have and really transport you to that world in question as to a game relying on your interactions with virtual characters to set the atmosphere. I understand how you feel though, it's just a matter of personal preference.

I actually feel the opposite way. I still prefer the japanese RPGs and I horribly dislike the idea of roaming for hours on end just trying to find what you are supposed to do. I play video games mostly for their narratives, the same reason I watch movies. That's why I love games like MGS. When I play a game like Oblivion or GTA, I play to advance th story, not piss away hours walking in circles because the game is "open".

I much prefer the stories that japanese RPGs have and really transport you to that world in question as to a game relying on your interactions with virtual characters to set the atmosphere. I understand how you feel though, it's just a matter of personal preference.

SirRaven

Oblivion isn't an RPG.emitsu97

      I used to be a big Japenese stlye RPG fan, until I played Oblivion. I just couldn't see myself going back to games like Final Fantasy. For a few reasons.

>I will feel to confined, (by having to take paths) It will seem to boring, being so limited on what things you can do.

>Ill have to go back to the take-turn system (unless they put the real time combat system in again but make it less sucky, (Final Fantasy 12))

>Doesn't give me enough to do ever since I played already 100+ hours of Oblivion (sad I know lol)

       How about you guys? Also, does anyone know of any more RPG's that will a sandbox type game, like Oblivion?

Logan832

i did like oblivion's freedom and combat system but it's setting and story have no appeal IMO, it's the same old generic medieval rpg from the 80's,i prefer JRPGs unique style and original stories, add to that the fact that in oblivion you're alone while in JRPGs you fight with your party and all

maybe someday we'll see an rpg that has the best of both worlds, until then i'll keep playing FF until square make a new Chrono game

I love Oblivion, and I will continue to say it is an amazing game and possibly one of my favorite games ever.

However...

I am really itching to play a true turn-based RPG.  Final Fantasy 12 was like my least favorite final fantasy ever.  I hated the game play; which is sad because the story seemed amazing.  I played for about 10 to 15 hours and just couldn't take it anymore.

So I am just waiting for a true to the genre JRPG.

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]Oblivion isn't an RPG.ocelotcougar

:lol: No kidding.  In terms of traditional development and execution Oblivion is not an RPG.  Understandably RPG stands for Role Playing Game which makes every game in the history of games, including 4 year olds playing cops & robbers, astronauts or cowboys an RPG.  Try to discuss within the context of console defined RPG's.

I think its good to have the two options. My preference goes to JRPGs. As most people said the story is the main reason why i play JRPGs. Oblivion doesn't feature any crazy funky characters and impossible plots. It's like asking if you prefer Hollywood films over japanese anime. Give me anime anytimes, and that's why I'll always vote for JRPGs!
Although I admit I haven't played Oblivion yet, I think it looks very "plain". I did enjoy games like Star Wars: knights of the Old Republic though so I might like Oblivion aswell. Nonetheless I can't wait untill I get my hands on White Knight for the PS3!

I played oblivion....and I could not stand it.

1.  I hate the leveling system. No random loot? No random-leveled items?

2. Too many options. After making a guy...I often felt "oh...I should have gone with this birth sign instead" or "this major" instead.

It's made me appreciate JRPGS more.

Oblivion isn't an RPG.emitsu97

Your joking,right?

oblivion is wack IMO. it has to be the mid evil theme becasue thats corney and nerdy to me, maybe if it was futuriestic or somehting i might of been really intrested, but i wouldn't even let it get near my FF games which are goat games.

      I used to be a big Japenese stlye RPG fan, until I played Oblivion. I just couldn't see myself going back to games like Final Fantasy. For a few reasons.

>I will feel to confined, (by having to take paths) It will seem to boring, being so limited on what things you can do.

>Ill have to go back to the take-turn system (unless they put the real time combat system in again but make it less sucky, (Final Fantasy 12))

>Doesn't give me enough to do ever since I played already 100+ hours of Oblivion (sad I know lol)

       How about you guys? Also, does anyone know of any more RPG's that will a sandbox type game, like Oblivion?

Logan832

      I used to be a big Japenese stlye RPG fan, until I played Oblivion. I just couldn't see myself going back to games like Final Fantasy. For a few reasons.

>I will feel to confined, (by having to take paths) It will seem to boring, being so limited on what things you can do.

>Ill have to go back to the take-turn system (unless they put the real time combat system in again but make it less sucky, (Final Fantasy 12))

>Doesn't give me enough to do ever since I played already 100+ hours of Oblivion (sad I know lol)

       How about you guys? Also, does anyone know of any more RPG's that will a sandbox type game, like Oblivion?

Logan832

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]Oblivion isn't an RPG.mrxb0x360

Your joking,right?

Nope.  It's a Medieval FPS with a twist of character customization and stat tracking.  Choose 3rd person to turn it into a Medieval GTA with a twist of character customization and stat tracking.

Nope.  It's a Medieval FPS with a twist of character customization and stat tracking.  Choose 3rd person to turn it into a Medieval GTA with a twist of character customization and stat tracking. emitsu97

By traditional RPG means, you go on quest after quest, dungeon crawl, gain loot/money, level up, talk to townsfolk, and gain experience. By traditional FPS, you shoot your way through stages (or singular stage) by managing ammunition and maneuvering passed the mass ambushes of enemies.

It is an RPG, despite being a cousin of the genre, it's still a RPG. I'm close to differentiating them as Western RPG vs Eastern RPG.

By traditional RPG means, you go on quest after quest, dungeon crawl, gain loot/money, level up, talk to townsfolk, and gain experience. By traditional FPS, you shoot your way through stages (or singular stage) by managing ammunition and maneuvering passed the mass ambushes of enemies.

It is an RPG, despite being a cousin of the genre, it's still a RPG. I'm close to differentiating them as Western RPG vs Eastern RPG.SirRaven

IMO it most closely plays like Zelda which happens to be classified as an Action Adventure crossed with GTA with a Medieval theme.  The only thing RPG about it is the character leveling.  It's akin to what was in both MUA and Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom.

[QUOTE="emitsu97"]Nope.  It's a Medieval FPS with a twist of character customization and stat tracking.  Choose 3rd person to turn it into a Medieval GTA with a twist of character customization and stat tracking. SirRaven

By traditional RPG means, you go on quest after quest, dungeon crawl, gain loot/money, level up, talk to townsfolk, and gain experience. By traditional FPS, you shoot your way through stages (or singular stage) by managing ammunition and maneuvering passed the mass ambushes of enemies.

It is an RPG, despite being a cousin of the genre, it's still a RPG. I'm close to differentiating them as Western RPG vs Eastern RPG.

Agreed.

Oblivion is just a Western-style RPG.

I'm slightly regretting my second purchase of this game.  First time it was for the PC.  While I give the folks at Bethseda accolades for making the framerates and graphics BETTER than my rig (7800gtx 512, AM2 4600+ dual core processor, 4 gigs of RAM - a nice beast); the game still possesses all that it had on the PC. 

This includes a lackluster storyline.  A strangely sparse world populated by ugly, ugly people. (Seriously, what happened? Is this some Terry Brooks, post-apocolypse fantasy setting where everyone was mutated by radiation?) Oh, and the "enemies level with you" defeats the sense of accomplishment that comes with creating a powerful character. 

I also agree with an earlier poster that it feels and plays more like an FPS than an RPG or Action RPG. A good example of this is the awkward implimentation of the "third person" mode.  I can see my character running around now, but have no crosshairs, auto-target or ability to hit things with that f**ked up camera.

In Oblivion's defence, the environments are pretty. That's really about it. 

Cheers,

-C 

I actually feel the opposite way. I still prefer the japanese RPGs and I horribly dislike the idea of roaming for hours on end just trying to find what you are supposed to do. I play video games mostly for their narratives, the same reason I watch movies. That's why I love games like MGS. When I play a game like Oblivion or GTA, I play to advance th story, not piss away hours walking in circles because the game is "open".

I much prefer the stories that japanese RPGs have and really transport you to that world in question as to a game relying on your interactions with virtual characters to set the atmosphere. I understand how you feel though, it's just a matter of personal preference.

SirRaven

Oblivion is an outstanding game, but I agree with your opinion. I prefer games with a set path. 

No, this game actually made me crave final fantasy even more than I already did, I thought this game was kind of boring. Plus, the characters looks REALLY awkward.. E_x_i_l_e

i concur 

[QUOTE="SirRaven"]

I actually feel the opposite way. I still prefer the japanese RPGs and I horribly dislike the idea of roaming for hours on end just trying to find what you are supposed to do. I play video games mostly for their narratives, the same reason I watch movies. That's why I love games like MGS. When I play a game like Oblivion or GTA, I play to advance th story, not piss away hours walking in circles because the game is "open".

I much prefer the stories that japanese RPGs have and really transport you to that world in question as to a game relying on your interactions with virtual characters to set the atmosphere. I understand how you feel though, it's just a matter of personal preference.

ghaleon0721

I'm sorry but no one does an RPG like the Japaness do. Oblivion looks good, but really do I want to spend 200hours wounder what to do next...Pixelgen

yes... I do...

      I used to be a big Japenese stlye RPG fan, until I played Oblivion. I just couldn't see myself going back to games like Final Fantasy. For a few reasons.

>I will feel to confined, (by having to take paths) It will seem to boring, being so limited on what things you can do.

>Ill have to go back to the take-turn system (unless they put the real time combat system in again but make it less sucky, (Final Fantasy 12))

>Doesn't give me enough to do ever since I played already 100+ hours of Oblivion (sad I know lol)

       How about you guys? Also, does anyone know of any more RPG's that will a sandbox type game, like Oblivion?

Logan832

I actually feel the opposite way. I still prefer the japanese RPGs and I horribly dislike the idea of roaming for hours on end just trying to find what you are supposed to do. I play video games mostly for their narratives, the same reason I watch movies. That's why I love games like MGS. When I play a game like Oblivion or GTA, I play to advance th story, not piss away hours walking in circles because the game is "open".

I much prefer the stories that japanese RPGs have and really transport you to that world in question as to a game relying on your interactions with virtual characters to set the atmosphere. I understand how you feel though, it's just a matter of personal preference.

SirRaven

I see your point and both types of RPG's have their pros and cons but Oblivion is not another aimless, oversized RPG like Morrowind. It has a linear main quest and the side and main quests have clear instructions and waypoints to show you exactly where to go. Oblivion really doesn't have any problems other than some technical glitches. It's one of the most finely designed games in many years.

[QUOTE="ocelotcougar"][QUOTE="emitsu97"]Oblivion isn't an RPG.emitsu97

:lol: No kidding.  In terms of traditional development and execution Oblivion is not an RPG.  Understandably RPG stands for Role Playing Game which makes every game in the history of games, including 4 year olds playing cops & robbers, astronauts or cowboys an RPG.  Try to discuss within the context of console defined RPG's.

I really would like to know how you justify that statement. Oblivion is an RPG in the truest sense of the word. It is JRPG's that are not true RPG's because of the design, they are more scripted and narrative driven where the player is more of a spectator. In open ended games like Oblivion, players actually get to create any type of char they want so they can "role play" any kind of char. The game's environment and missions are so open ended that you have the freedom to play however you want. I can't think of a more true RPG than the Elder Scrolls series.

Oblivion belongs with the likes of Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, God of War, Zelda, Mario, Resident Evil, Metroid, Devil May Cry, etc....... its the kind of game which doesnt have genre, and shouldnt be compared to others, they are all unique in its own way.

It hasn't changed my view of JRPG's.  When I first played Oblivion I hated it but I gave it a second chance and now I like it.  But on the other hand I am about 20-25 hours into Oblivion and haven't really decided if I love it or not.  I do love being in the Dark Brotherhood.  Sneaking around assassinating people is kind of cool.  The bow and arrow sneak attack from far away is great, especially if you get a one shot kill. 

Also I wouldn't compare the JRPG's to WRPG's because it is a different approach.  I like both and both have good points and bad points.