GTA4: Do you think Rockstar has learned their lesson?

I one time got in a heated argument with a developer at Rockstar, and judging by his lack of character and intelligence, I'm not too sure if Rockstar has learned their lesson or not, but what do you think?

Will GTA be different, more arcade/comical, or will there be a "Hot Coffee" part two this time?

I one time got in a heated argument with a developer at Rockstar, and judging by his lack of character and intelligence, I'm not too sure if Rockstar has learned their lesson or not, but what do you think?

Will GTA be different, more arcade/comical, or will there be a "Hot Coffee" part two this time?

dunamistheou

What was the argument about?

He came out attacking Christians, cursing them, calling them names, etc. when Christianity had nothing to do with the argument. It was basically a red herring.

Furthermore, he kept referring to the "Hot Coffee" mod as a hack, however, someone at Rockstar sat there and had to animate all of that scene (I have never watched the full thing, just the censored version they showed on the news).

Basically, Rockstar produced that "Hot Coffee" scene, set it up, set dressed it, and animated everything, and then they were surprised when they had to change the rating to Adults-Only due to ESRB rules.

He came out attacking Christians, cursing them, calling them names, etc. when Christianity had nothing to do with the argument. It was basically a red herring.

Furthermore, he kept referring to the "Hot Coffee" mod as a hack, however, someone at Rockstar sat there and had to animate all of that scene (I have never watched the full thing, just the censored version they showed on the news).

Basically, Rockstar produced that "Hot Coffee" scene, set it up, set dressed it, and animated everything, and then they were surprised when they had to change the rating to Adults-Only due to ESRB rules.

dunamistheou

A lot of people do stuff like that... I'm an agnostic and it still infuriates me to see other people attack what's probably the most personal values of another human being. But then again, some people out there like to beat their religion over other people's heads and that infuriates me too.

He came out attacking Christians, cursing them, calling them names, etc. when Christianity had nothing to do with the argument. It was basically a red herring.

Furthermore, he kept referring to the "Hot Coffee" mod as a hack, however, someone at Rockstar sat there and had to animate all of that scene (I have never watched the full thing, just the censored version they showed on the news).

Basically, Rockstar produced that "Hot Coffee" scene, set it up, set dressed it, and animated everything, and then they were surprised when they had to change the rating to Adults-Only due to ESRB rules.

dunamistheou

So you're telling me, just because you talked to one of the employers and he was being a douche it automatically makes the entire company stupid?

And what exactly is wrong with nudity in games when violence is allowed?

[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]

He came out attacking Christians, cursing them, calling them names, etc. when Christianity had nothing to do with the argument. It was basically a red herring.

Furthermore, he kept referring to the "Hot Coffee" mod as a hack, however, someone at Rockstar sat there and had to animate all of that scene (I have never watched the full thing, just the censored version they showed on the news).

Basically, Rockstar produced that "Hot Coffee" scene, set it up, set dressed it, and animated everything, and then they were surprised when they had to change the rating to Adults-Only due to ESRB rules.

humber_matus

So you're telling me, just because you talked to one of the employers and he was being a douche it automatically makes the entire company stupid?

And what exactly is wrong with nudity in games when violence is allowed?

Because a society that has no shame will fall more and more into ruin.

Also, it is illegal to show pornographic material to someone under the age of 18, and people 17 could buy the game, and many under that age bought the game.

[QUOTE="humber_matus"][QUOTE="dunamistheou"]

He came out attacking Christians, cursing them, calling them names, etc. when Christianity had nothing to do with the argument. It was basically a red herring.

Furthermore, he kept referring to the "Hot Coffee" mod as a hack, however, someone at Rockstar sat there and had to animate all of that scene (I have never watched the full thing, just the censored version they showed on the news).

Basically, Rockstar produced that "Hot Coffee" scene, set it up, set dressed it, and animated everything, and then they were surprised when they had to change the rating to Adults-Only due to ESRB rules.

dunamistheou

So you're telling me, just because you talked to one of the employers and he was being a douche it automatically makes the entire company stupid?

And what exactly is wrong with nudity in games when violence is allowed?

Because a society that has no shame will fall more and more into ruin.

Well its good to know you dont consider killing someone shameful.

It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.

Those who fought against the Nazis are heroes, those who fought against Communism (under which millions were killed) were heroes, and those who defend freedom and fight terror on various fronts are heroes.

It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.dunamistheou

So your telling me that killing another person over oil is better than watching some girl on girl action?

It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.

Those who fought against the Nazis are heroes, those who fought against Communism which killed millions were heroes, and those who defend freedom and fight terror on various fronts are heroes.

dunamistheou

And those who watch Nudity and don't hurt anyone in any way or form are Evil.

[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.humber_matus

So your telling me that killing another person over oil is better than watching some girl on girl action?

For oil?

So Sadaam killing thousands of people, like the Kurds, meant nothing to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWFBwbgqLCc

[QUOTE="humber_matus"]

[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.dunamistheou

So your telling me that killing another person over oil is better than watching some girl on girl action?

For oil?

So Sadaam killing thousands of people, like the Kurds, meant nothing to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWFBwbgqLCc

So Bush killing thousands of INNOCENT people means nothign to you?

'It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.'

And how exactly are we fighting for OUR country in Iraq? OO yah, nvm ... i forgot about those weapons of mass distruction ... that we never found.

So Mustard Gas isn't a WMD then, even though it can wipe out whole cities?

And if Sadaam was burying his military equipment in the sand, I guess he'd just leave his weapons lying around?

to the t.c.

True Christians spread the gospel by living THEIR life as Jesus lived, no exceptions or modifications. God did not say it is our mission to argue morality with others but live a life so that others would come and follow. Keep your judgement to yourself.

Any kind of sex or just a naked body is way more offensive than killing someone.

I thought that was common knowledge?

[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.humber_matus

So your telling me that killing another person over oil is better than watching some girl on girl action?

Well said.

Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.Awol_Merc

[QUOTE="Awol_Merc"]Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.tgschmidt

A very good point, and a point well taken.

to the t.c.

True Christians spread the gospel by living THEIR life as Jesus lived, no exceptions or modifications. God did not say it is our mission to argue morality with others but live a life so that others would come and follow. Keep your judgement to yourself.

De_Bears

Actually, 1 Corinthians 2:14-15 disagrees with you.

Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.Awol_Merc

Ok, that was just a fluff post with no content.

The law is actually on my side, as Rockstar broke the law, and is now paying for it.

[QUOTE="Awol_Merc"]Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.dunamistheou

Ok, that was just a fluff post with no content.

The law is actually on my side, as Rockstar broke the law, and is now paying for it.

Fluff post?? So much for the thought process. Here it is again Barney Style: Please better inform yourselves before you start going off on a rant involving the proper way to protect the people that inhabit this earth.

I one time got in a heated argument with a developer at Rockstar, and judging by his lack of character and intelligence, I'm not too sure if Rockstar has learned their lesson or not, but what do you think?

Will GTA be different, more arcade/comical, or will there be a "Hot Coffee" part two this time?

dunamistheou

And I hope you dont see this as a bash on dunam. Its not (he called me a hero after all). Awol_Merc

You and nerf baseball bats will always be heroes.

[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]

[QUOTE="Awol_Merc"]Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.americahellyeah

Ok, that was just a fluff post with no content.

The law is actually on my side, as Rockstar broke the law, and is now paying for it.

:roll: R* didn't break the law, who knows what other games have mini-games or stuff like that in it that the devs just turned off.

Christianity is just a cult, as is almost every other religion. and nothing pisses me off more than you "self righteous" types.

[QUOTE="Awol_Merc"]And I hope you dont see this as a bash on dunam. Its not (he called me a hero after all). siwelcram

You and nerf baseball bats will always be heroes.

Did you like that??!! BEST STORY EVER!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure it was a marketing tatic to drive publicity and have that forbidden fruit effect

I dont believe a dev company as established as rockstar did not know someone somewhere was bound to unlock it

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="dunamistheou"]

[QUOTE="Awol_Merc"]Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.siwelcram

Ok, that was just a fluff post with no content.

The law is actually on my side, as Rockstar broke the law, and is now paying for it.

:roll: R* didn't break the law, who knows what other games have mini-games or stuff like that in it that the devs just turned off.

Christianity is just a cult, as is almost every other religion. and nothing pisses me off more than you "self righteous" types.

:P , crutch, cult, however you need to word it. the organization/scam of the "xian faith" has gone far enough.

[QUOTE="americahellyeah"][QUOTE="dunamistheou"]

[QUOTE="Awol_Merc"]Its a pity that people might take your (both of you) views on what is going on over seas with our wars to heart. You both need to better inform yourselves with the military actions and their reasons for doing so. Feel free to comment back but please use some type of thought process when doing so.siwelcram

Ok, that was just a fluff post with no content.

The law is actually on my side, as Rockstar broke the law, and is now paying for it.

:roll: R* didn't break the law, who knows what other games have mini-games or stuff like that in it that the devs just turned off.

Christianity is just a cult, as is almost every other religion. and nothing pisses me off more than you "self righteous" types.

Oh, here it comes. Fear the highly religious ones, for every single war and every single terrorist attack has been planed and carried out by those who love their God and will defend him to the end.

He came out attacking Christians, cursing them, calling them names, etc. when Christianity had nothing to do with the argument. It was basically a red herring.

Furthermore, he kept referring to the "Hot Coffee" mod as a hack, however, someone at Rockstar sat there and had to animate all of that scene (I have never watched the full thing, just the censored version they showed on the news).

Basically, Rockstar produced that "Hot Coffee" scene, set it up, set dressed it, and animated everything, and then they were surprised when they had to change the rating to Adults-Only due to ESRB rules.

dunamistheou

Wow. Bad move Rockstar. I don't know what they were thinking. To hell with it.

where did war come into this?? GTA is about killing people for no apparent reason and gang-related....don't you think that is "morally wrong".. God blessed us with our bodies, it's peoples' freedom whether or not they want to flaunt it to the world. God didn't give us weapons with the intent of killing someone for no reason.

take your crap elsewhere. if you want to worship this magical dude with a beard whose dad aparently created us out of mud 5000 years ago then go ahead. but you´re not going to convince anyone of anything.

btw if you have to chose some religion then LaVeyan Satanism if by far the most logical. But it´s more of a philosofy than a religion. a little off topic but it´s fun to say when christians are around.

SmallPox91

Any kind of sex or just a naked body is way more offensive than killing someone.

I thought that was common knowledge?

donnygorgas

you were born naked... is birth a sin?

to the t.c.

True Christians spread the gospel by living THEIR life as Jesus lived, no exceptions or modifications. God did not say it is our mission to argue morality with others but live a life so that others would come and follow. Keep your judgement to yourself.

De_Bears

good call, i hate it when people overreact about videogames. if u dont like it, then dont buy it and mind your own business.

[QUOTE="donnygorgas"]

Any kind of sex or just a naked body is way more offensive than killing someone.

I thought that was common knowledge?

knowledge83

you were born naked... is birth a sin?

Sure why not? Everything else is right?

Seriously the Christian bashing needs to stop.

*Gets nekkid*

Everybody stop debating religion and morals; nobody wins. Nobody is going to convince anybody to believe or disbelieve anything through an argument so stop being retarded.

*Gets nekkid*

Everybody stop debating religion and morals; nobody wins. Nobody is going to convince anybody to believe or disbelieve anything through an argument so stop being retarded.

ck02623

oh no, no,no,no,no. i swore i would never take advice from someone nekkid again.

[QUOTE="dunamistheou"]It's war, there is nothing morally wrong with fighting for your country in war.humber_matus

So your telling me that killing another person over oil is better than watching some girl on girl action?

Or killing someone over pineapples. People are saying it's bad we're waging a war for oil when we took over Hawaii for sugar cane and pineapple.