For Sony's sake I hope they have some major exclusives lined up for E3 07

Yeah you guys heard, DMC4 is no longer an exclusive. MASSIVE DAMAGE indeed, theres no denying it.

I just find it weird that Sony seems to be keeping a calm and collected mind after hearing all these bad news, I really hope that they have some massive anouncement that will change the tide for PS3. I would really like to see PS3 gaining some major exclusives but am I being too optimistic :?.

what do you guys think about DMC4's loss of exclusivity and do you think that Sony is prepared for the battle at hand?

Well actually people should care cos it's one less reason the PS3 is needed so it's bad regardelss of whether PS3 owners can get it or not. Exclusives are good cos they make consoles more interesting and give you a reason to get them, lose it and you can imagine what it's like. I have a console with 10 exclusives and one with  0, which will I pick?

I agree if you don't really care there it's no big loss.

I just find it weird that Sony seems to be keeping a calm and collected mind after hearing all these bad news, I really hope that they have some massive anouncement that will change the tide for PS3.

AB_Uppercut

The only thing that bothers me about DMC going multiplatform is that it will propably not tap as much power as it could from every system.calandbolg

E3 2007 is not where Sony will push the PS3. They have scaled E3 right down this year and im sure Sony will hold there own event if they do anything.

Well PS3 still has God Of War,which is probably a bigger seller than DMC,even though DMC I like more so than GoW...I really wouldn't doubt it,if one day we see Halo 3 on PS3....Halo is the only game keeping the 360 above water. I would however be heartbroken if Final Fantasy was to go multiplatform.Shu76

[QUOTE="Shu76"]Well PS3 still has God Of War,which is probably a bigger seller than DMC,even though DMC I like more so than GoW...I really wouldn't doubt it,if one day we see Halo 3 on PS3....Halo is the only game keeping the 360 above water. I would however be heartbroken if Final Fantasy was to go multiplatform.Thomasdeleo

what he said

Well PS3 still has God Of War,which is probably a bigger seller than DMC,even though DMC I like more so than GoW...I really wouldn't doubt it,if one day we see Halo 3 on PS3....Halo is the only game keeping the 360 above water. I would however be heartbroken if Final Fantasy was to go multiplatform.Shu76

I think Sony are caring too much about First party titles and leaving third party out. First party games are great but Sony need to start being more competitive and gain some major third party exclusive, I think the success of their past two consoles have gone to their head and they have left their guard down this time.

Also considering that PS3 has just came out and is not even released in Europe yet -the 3rd biggest games territory- I think developers are waiting to see if PS3 actually becomes successful, sure Sony might get one or two third party exclusives this year but it wont be untill next year when developers feel comfortable in making PS3 exclusives.

E3 is this July 11th-13th, its smaller but still the biggest gaming convention in my opinion. Come on Sony that Killzone better be as good as that CGI trailer !

[QUOTE="calandbolg"]The only thing that bothers me about DMC going multiplatform is that it will propably not tap as much power as it could from every system.Shut_Me_Up

Sony's been paying for the wrong exclusives. Motorstorm and Lair are cool, but they really better make sure Final Fantasy or Metal Gear don't go anywhere. Tekken also. I honestly don't know why Sony thinks the PS3 will sell if all of their big franchises go to the 360. They can pay for those 3 series and they better if they don't want to get left in third place. Sony flat out lost Dragon Quest... Ace Combat is announced on 360 but not on PS3. 360 gets Lost Planet and Dead Rising but PS3 doesn't. PS3 loses Devil May Cry exclusivity and they are coming out on the SAME day! Koei shifted its once exclusive games(Fatal Inertia and Bladestorm) to multiplatform. Sega took VF5 and put it on 360 and will continue to give multiplatform support to games that were once Sony exclusive. Frankly, I'm sick of the excuses Sony keeps giving. Wahhh wahhh its too expensive to secure third party games! They better do something about the gaming aspect of PS3 because its looking down. Nobody is going to pay anywhere near 500 or 600 dollars if the GAMES aren't there. Blu Ray is just extra.xxThyLordxx

I agree with you mate. Sony is wrong if they think people will keep on buying their system just because its Playstation. To me it seems Sony is in this generation so they can win format war, gaming and games are in second place when it comes to thier priorities. Its so obvious. I dont give a damn about Blue Ray, i want console and great games not blue ray player and PS3 for now is failing to offer that. Xbox360 for now is much better system. First of all its cheaper, second it already has around 170 games on market, many jaw droping games are to be released in 2007 like (Mass Effect, BioShock, Halo 3, Lost Odyssey, FORZA 2, ShadowRun,Kane & Lynch: Dead Men ,Blue Dragon, Too Human, 2 days to Vegas and so on and so forth.True some of these games are also going to be released on PC but i dont have good PC and dont plan to give that much money to buy it. Also PS3 will have some amazing games by the end of the year but for me personally 360 list beats PS3 list for 2007.

I am PS1 and PS2 owner i still dont own next gen system, mostly because i want PS3 but Sony need to show me why PS3 is better than 360, why should i give 200 dollars more than for 360. I am not fan boy and i am not going to choose PS3 just because its PS3, give me reason to waste my money. Dont go around and loose exclussives to you biggest rival.

I think this is an indication of where the industry will be going.... 1st party games are going to become more important because 3rd party developers HAVE to sell to as many users (PC, 360, PS3) to recoup the major amount of money needed to developed for these graphically advanced systems, making them less relevent.... So you'll see a majority of 3rd party games be put on all platforms that are possible....360 has lost a ton of exclusives as well, even though everyone focuses on the PS3. Oblivion, FEAR, Ghost REcons, Assassins Creed, Splinter Cells and more have jumped to PS3.... Hell, even Bioware is making a PS3 game ..... Sony and Microsoft are gonna have to focus on what 1st party games will be the deciding factor in a buyers decision.... Microsoft has Halo, Mass Effect, etc... Sony has Ratchet & Clank, Killzone, etc.... This generation will be different, with no clear market leader so far.ajefferism

Well actually people should care cos it's one less reason the PS3 is needed so it's bad regardelss of whether PS3 owners can get it or not. Exclusives are good cos they make consoles more interesting and give you a reason to get them, lose it and you can imagine what it's like. I have a console with 10 exclusives and one with 0, which will I pick?

I agree if you don't really care there it's no big loss.

Sigil-otaku

Yeah you guys heard, DMC4 is no longer an exclusive. MASSIVE DAMAGE indeed, theres no denying it.

I just find it weird that Sony seems to be keeping a calm and collected mind after hearing all these bad news, I really hope that they have some massive anouncement that will change the tide for PS3. I would really like to see PS3 gaining some major exclusives but am I being too optimistic :?.

what do you guys think about DMC4's loss of exclusivity and do you think that Sony is prepared for the battle at hand?

AB_Uppercut

Sony better pull something out of their asses come E3, otherwise I'll just be sticking with my pc. I'm not really into sports game and console fps's, so a 360 is out for me. And the Wii just isn't impressing me yet. The PS3 the only system that I want to save up for, but Sony's making that kind of difficult. Losing exlusives is one of the best ways to disenfranchise (not sure about the spelling of that word) loyal fans of their games and hardware.spartan_104

Yeah you guys heard, DMC4 is no longer an exclusive. MASSIVE DAMAGE indeed, theres no denying it.

I just find it weird that Sony seems to be keeping a calm and collected mind after hearing all these bad news, I really hope that they have some massive anouncement that will change the tide for PS3. I would really like to see PS3 gaining some major exclusives but am I being too optimistic :?.

what do you guys think about DMC4's loss of exclusivity and do you think that Sony is prepared for the battle at hand?

AB_Uppercut

HEAVENLY SWORD i guess is DMC 4 but in a more realistic world..........this is why SONY is not investing in it .

Rather they are trying to make HS as realistic as possible.

Frankly speaking only LAIR can beat HS in terms of sheer fun.

SONY's 1st party titles like R&c, LAIR, WARHAWK ,KILLZONE 2 , HS ,MOTORSTORM are the most impressive in their respective genre.

dont forget the total production budget of LAIR surpasses 25 million and it is the most detailed game released till date.

After R&C footage was released at 1up..........my lust for 3rd party titles is simply gone.

I was a big fan of MGS4 and FF13...............but not anymore.

My aim has now shifted to HS and LAIR and probable GOD OF WAR 3

Normally ,I will get my PS3 on friday but after hearing this news ,well I'm sad to say I'm starting to doubt if I am really willing to pay 600 euros for a machine ,which has lost so many of the games that made PS2 last-gen number 1.

I'm not a fanboy but I've always leant more to Sony cause it was THE console when it came to RPGs ,so FF is kinda the only real reason for me to buy it ,and after FFX-2 and FFXII I've lost faith in the series.Since I have an X360 (Worst buy ever ,have a couple of supposedly "great" games ,I've finished none of them ,stopped playing on the system around new year.) and a Wii(Besides Zelda no real "must have" games ,yet for me it was mostly an impulse buy so I dont really care if it takes a while before something interesting comes out.) the loss of exclusives makes the buying of a PS3 allot less exiting then buying a PS2 back in the day.I don't really care about the money ,but atleast I want a true gamingconsole which is great because of its games ,not because it has a blue-ray player.(Which btw I'm gonna buy for in my livingroom anyway.)

...has lost so many of the games that made PS2 last-gen number 1.

Faller88

Trust me PS3 has a bright future, every new born tumbles at first but eventually he stands up. PS3 will gain more third party exclusives as time goes by and the developers learn to harness the power of PS3 plus by that time PS3 would have sold alot.

[QUOTE="Faller88"]

...has lost so many of the games that made PS2 last-gen number 1.

emitsu97

exactly.

DMC 4 looks washed out compared to HS and LAIR.

WKS might also take some shine off FF13.

this s new gen with new IP domination.

Why do u think there is no hype for HALO 3????

after seeing CRYSIS and KZ 3 people want photorealism rather than decent fun

Normally ,I will get my PS3 on friday but after hearing this news ,well I'm sad to say I'm starting to doubt if I am really willing to pay 600 euros for a machine ,which has lost so many of the games that made PS2 last-gen number 1.

I'm not a fanboy but I've always leant more to Sony cause it was THE console when it came to RPGs ,so FF is kinda the only real reason for me to buy it ,and after FFX-2 and FFXII I've lost faith in the series.Since I have an X360 (Worst buy ever ,have a couple of supposedly "great" games ,I've finished none of them ,stopped playing on the system around new year.) and a Wii(Besides Zelda no real "must have" games ,yet for me it was mostly an impulse buy so I dont really care if it takes a while before something interesting comes out.) the loss of exclusives makes the buying of a PS3 allot less exiting then buying a PS2 back in the day.I don't really care about the money ,but atleast I want a true gamingconsole which is great because of its games ,not because it has a blue-ray player.(Which btw I'm gonna buy for in my livingroom anyway.)

Faller88

Well ps3 owners do not lose anything, they will still get the game . . . Only fanboys, the developer and stockholders have to lose or gain something from DMC going multiplatform. And because i don't belong in these categories and i can still get it for ps3, i don't care. You shouldn't care too.calandbolg

Trust me PS3 has a bright future, every new born tumbles at first but eventually he stands up. PS3 will gain more third party exclusives as time goes by and the developers learn to harness the power of PS3 plus by that time PS3 would have sold alot.

AB_Uppercut

[QUOTE="Faller88"]

Normally ,I will get my PS3 on friday but after hearing this news ,well I'm sad to say I'm starting to doubt if I am really willing to pay 600 euros for a machine ,which has lost so many of the games that made PS2 last-gen number 1.

I'm not a fanboy but I've always leant more to Sony cause it was THE console when it came to RPGs ,so FF is kinda the only real reason for me to buy it ,and after FFX-2 and FFXII I've lost faith in the series.Since I have an X360 (Worst buy ever ,have a couple of supposedly "great" games ,I've finished none of them ,stopped playing on the system around new year.) and a Wii(Besides Zelda no real "must have" games ,yet for me it was mostly an impulse buy so I dont really care if it takes a while before something interesting comes out.) the loss of exclusives makes the buying of a PS3 allot less exiting then buying a PS2 back in the day.I don't really care about the money ,but atleast I want a true gamingconsole which is great because of its games ,not because it has a blue-ray player.(Which btw I'm gonna buy for in my livingroom anyway.)

-Y2J-

you still have DMC 4 on ps3........so you can get the game if you want.

Does it hurt? A bit, but I think the loss of DMC isn't as big as some will believe. Of all the "big" exclusives Sony has from third parties, this one is by far the smallest. Losing FF or MGS4 would be FAR more painful. But as someone pointed out, this gen, you're not going to see many 3rd party exclusives, especially amongst the 360/PS3/PC (to a lesser degree). It just costs too much to make a game, and the cost of porting is probably low enough that sales could justify it. So in many ways, it's really going to come down to 1st party titles. In the PSone era, Sony was crap up until near the end. Last generation, they really started bringing on some impressive games which continued to get better over the generation. I think they have a large enough first party development (the largest, actually) and some really strong franchises...perhaps some of the strongest. Just a small sampling of the IPs that you can only get on PS3:

God of War

Ico/Shadow of the Colossus

Gran Turismo

Ratchet and Clank

Sly Cooper

I'm sure there's more, but I haven't been a real Sony fan until recently. One other thing I'd like to point out- every generation, it seems that the games that really shift momentum are either completely new IPs or such a radical change of them that they feel completely different.

Mario was a brand new character for the NES. While Genesis didn't win, Sonic really tipped the scales to give it a chance. FF7 was such a huge jump that it felt different than older generations, as well as new series such as MGS and Resident Evil gave the PSone the edge. Last generation, it was really GTA3 that tipped the balance towards the PS2. Halo is the only thing that got the Xbox off the ground. I can go on for a while, but I think the point is clear- the game(s) that are likely to really shift the balance in any way this generation is likely a franchise that doesn't exist yet or is such a radically different version that we won't recognize it until its here.Vampyronight

I agree, first party titles are the main reason I'm buying a PS3. I do believe that Sony will get 3rd party exclusive AAA titles but it wont be until next year, the developers will soon harness the power of PS3 and by that time PS3 would have sold alot.

I have already heard that SOE are working on 2 original IP's and I'm sure Sony will anounce more for the PS3, Original games is what gamers are gonna look for this gen because people already know about the old franchises so a fresh one would really be the deciding factor for any gamer.

I thnk Sony are working on a no. of originl IP's like Afrika, Eight days, White Knight Story and un-anounced Team Ico project.