can all 720p tvs support 1080i and 1080p and 480p

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#1 narutotheboss20
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i just thinking about gettin a tv with native resolution 720p but i just want to know if i can upscale when i playing my ps3 games to like 1080i with the tv tuner
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#2 emitsu97
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Generally 720p sets will support 1080i and below. 720p is the preferred resolution for playing games.
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i just thinking about gettin a tv with native resolution 720p but i just want to know if i can upscale when i playing my ps3 games to like 1080i with the tv tunernarutotheboss20

Typically 720p/1080i tvs are more or less the same. It is pretty rare these days to have a tv that doesn't do both those resolutions. Especially since that is the resolution that HDTV currently broadcasts in.

However, 1080p is a tier above. So you won't be able to have 1080p displayed on your TV. I don't think there are any 1080p games available, and unless your TV is is fairly large, or you sit unusually close, you won't notice that BR isn't showing in 1080p.

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The highest number you have followed by a "p" is the highest you'll want to watch.

The whole 1080i is more of a trick by the companies trying to ride on the 1080p's coattails. Yeah it'll go that high but it'll be interlaced so the superior watching experience will be the 720 in progressive scan.

If you can wait I'd suggest saving up a little more money for the 1080p if you're worried about trying to somewhat future proof your purchase.

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#5 Coolboy420x
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No 1080p in there!
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#6 bigburd
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speaking of 1080p games, besides ninja gaiden sigma what game have a native resolution of 1080p?
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#7 kazamadevil
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should support all except 1080p of course
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#8 CJL182
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I think all 720p tvs support 1080i and below. There are older model 1080i tvs that don't support 720p.
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speaking of 1080p games, besides ninja gaiden sigma what game have a native resolution of 1080p?bigburd

I don't know if it's native (I'm ignorant about all the technical terms and meanings), but MGS4 automatically plays at 1080P on my tv.

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#10 lextexrex
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I feel like im the only person that has a 720p tv that supports 1080p, lol. The box said it only goes to 720p/1080i, but 1080p displays on my ps3's xmb and games :D. It's a 32" Vizio.
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I feel like im the only person that has a 720p tv that supports 1080p, lol. The box said it only goes to 720p/1080i, but 1080p displays on my ps3's xmb and games :D. It's a 32" Vizio.lextexrex
mine does the same. it'll show that it's a 1080p signal, but more than likely, it's down scaling to one of the resolutions that the TV supports
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#12 lextexrex
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[QUOTE="lextexrex"]I feel like im the only person that has a 720p tv that supports 1080p, lol. The box said it only goes to 720p/1080i, but 1080p displays on my ps3's xmb and games :D. It's a 32" Vizio.tgschmidt
mine does the same. it'll show that it's a 1080p signal, but more than likely, it's down scaling to one of the resolutions that the TV supports

Maybe the fact that its smaller than 42" just opens up compatability of 1080p.

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All HDTVs have a native resolution. If you have an HDTV that only accepts 720p/1080i, than one of those two are its native resolution. If it recieves any other signal, it converts it to that native resolution.

So, asking if there is a 720p HDTV that upscales to 1080i makes no sense. If you have a 720p HDTV, than it would down convert 1080i to display it. If you have a 720p HDTV, just send a 720p signal to the TV. Doing anything else is just unnecessary conversion that will slightly degrade the image.

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[QUOTE="narutotheboss20"]i just thinking about gettin a tv with native resolution 720p but i just want to know if i can upscale when i playing my ps3 games to like 1080i with the tv tunerZIMdoom

Typically 720p/1080i tvs are more or less the same. It is pretty rare these days to have a tv that doesn't do both those resolutions. Especially since that is the resolution that HDTV currently broadcasts in.

However, 1080p is a tier above. So you won't be able to have 1080p displayed on your TV. I don't think there are any 1080p games available, and unless your TV is is fairly large, or you sit unusually close, you won't notice that BR isn't showing in 1080p.

Yep.

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speaking of 1080p games, besides ninja gaiden sigma what game have a native resolution of 1080p?bigburd

I don't know all of them, but Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection and Ridge Racer 7 are native 1080P. Wipeout HD is also supposed to be 1080P.

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#16 bigburd
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just curious, i have a 40' 1080p samsung LCD
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All HDTVs have a native resolution. If you have an HDTV that only accepts 720p/1080i, than one of those two are its native resolution. If it recieves any other signal, it converts it to that native resolution.

So, asking if there is a 720p HDTV that upscales to 1080i makes no sense. If you have a 720p HDTV, than it would down convert 1080i to display it. If you have a 720p HDTV, just send a 720p signal to the TV. Doing anything else is just unnecessary conversion that will slightly degrade the image.

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I was just wondering how long I would have to read until someone stated facts and not BS here - thanks b11. CJL - you were also correct, but b11 had more info :)

For original poster - what size tv? Under like 40-inch if not larger 1080p won't have any effect. You are better off getting a good 720p tv than a crappy 1080p tv. There are other things that will determine the quality of your picture. Of course a good 1080p tv is the best, but there are plenty of posters here that don't have that...

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#18 munu9
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No, but basically all 1080p TV's can support 720p, 1080i, and 480p
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#19 Elviathan
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720p sets can only support 1080i not 1080p. It can also support the lower resolutions as well.
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#20 narutotheboss20
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so that means if i am watching a show and i have a 720p television i can always upscale it to 1080i since it supports 1080i
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#21 T3h_M3tal_Biggz
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my 26' Insignia T.V. in my room is native 720p, but it upscales to 1080p and 1080i. so yes some can.
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#22 b11051973
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my 26' Insignia T.V. in my room is native 720p, but it upscales to 1080p and 1080i. so yes some can.T3h_M3tal_Biggz

No it doesn't. Why would a 720p native HDTV upscale anything to a 1080 resolution??? An HDTV can only display a signal in it's native resolution. If your 720p HDTV upscales something to a 1080 resolution, it would then have to downscale it back to 720p to display it.

Your 720p native HDTV takes all incoming signals and converts it to 720p. It converts it to nothing else.

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[QUOTE="bigburd"]speaking of 1080p games, besides ninja gaiden sigma what game have a native resolution of 1080p?cebcubs1

I don't know if it's native (I'm ignorant about all the technical terms and meanings), but MGS4 automatically plays at 1080P on my tv.

Native means that that's the actual resolution being outputted, as opposed to taking a lower resolution and upscaling (stretching to fit the available pixels) it. And no, MGS4 is not 1080p native.

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so that means if i am watching a show and i have a 720p television i can always upscale it to 1080i since it supports 1080inarutotheboss20

No it means that it accepts the 1080i signal and DOWNCONVERTS to your native resolution of 720p. If the tv wasn't supportive of 1080p it would show something like a completely black picture...

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#25 bdhoff
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The highest number you have followed by a "p" is the highest you'll want to watch.

The whole 1080i is more of a trick by the companies trying to ride on the 1080p's coattails. Yeah it'll go that high but it'll be interlaced so the superior watching experience will be the 720 in progressive scan.

If you can wait I'd suggest saving up a little more money for the 1080p if you're worried about trying to somewhat future proof your purchase.

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How is 1080i riding on 1080p's coattails when 1080i has been available for far longer? I'm not being snarky...I'm genuinely curious.
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[QUOTE="narutotheboss20"]so that means if i am watching a show and i have a 720p television i can always upscale it to 1080i since it supports 1080isvenskamerikan

No it means that it accepts the 1080i signal and DOWNCONVERTS to your native resolution of 720p. If the tv wasn't supportive of 1080p it would show something like a completely black picture...

Yes, this. If the native resolution is 720p the television will accept the 1080i signal and downconvert it to the maximum resolution that the television can display. It will convert the 1080i signal to 720p, and the quality of the TV determines how well the downconversion works. On some progressive scan TV's the downconversion of the 1080i signal will cause ghosting during action shots. Also, those little notices about the resolution that the TV displays are typically the input signal, not the output resolution. Although many people get them confused.
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#27 neovalkyr
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[QUOTE="svenskamerikan"]

[QUOTE="narutotheboss20"]so that means if i am watching a show and i have a 720p television i can always upscale it to 1080i since it supports 1080ibdhoff

No it means that it accepts the 1080i signal and DOWNCONVERTS to your native resolution of 720p. If the tv wasn't supportive of 1080p it would show something like a completely black picture...

Yes, this. If the native resolution is 720p the television will accept the 1080i signal and downconvert it to the maximum resolution that the television can display. It will convert the 1080i signal to 720p, and the quality of the TV determines how well the downconversion works. On some progressive scan TV's the downconversion of the 1080i signal will cause ghosting during action shots. Also, those little notices about the resolution that the TV displays are typically the input signal, not the output resolution. Although many people get them confused.

yes, these guys have it right. youre not actually seeing the extra pixels from 1080i. The reason 720p tvs accept 1080i is because some HD channels output at 1080i. This allows people with only a 720p TV to see that content.

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montanna says DO YOU THINK A 720P TV CAN DO 1080P?GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.
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720p should supports 1080i, but not 1080p. 1080p is the highest resolution. But if you have to choose between 1080i/720p for gaming purposes, go with 720p.
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#30 SageJMP
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so that means if i am watching a show and i have a 720p television i can always upscale it to 1080i since it supports 1080inarutotheboss20

it would be pointless since your TV will just scale it back to 720p before displaying it again. If a TV is 720p, that means it is it's native resolution. Even if it supports the other resolutions, the TV has to scale the signal to the native resolution before displaying it.