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#1 G-Legend
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I'm just curious to if people would use PSN if Sony charged $30 (half) of what XBL charges for the exact same features. Granted you'd get game inviting through PSN and not game-to-game, party system through PSN with your own chat rooms etc..And more things on the PS store.

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#2 smithster118
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I would definitely still use it.

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#3 Bow-T_88
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I'm just curious to if people would use PSN if Sony charged $30 (half) of what XBL charges for the exact same features. Granted you'd get game inviting through PSN and not game-to-game, party system through PSN with your own chat rooms etc..And more things on the PS store.

G-Legend
HELL NO. because they dont sell psn cards or XBOX LIVE here. sufficient that I cant even buy nothing off the PS store, so a fee would mess every thing up.
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#4 nyc05
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Hell no.

Beyond the fact that I don't really play online anyway, there is simply no excuse for Sony (or Microsoft) to charge to play online. If the PC offers free online play that runs better, often feature free DLC, not to mention mod support, then I see no reason that console manufacturers should charge.

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#5 king23_
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I would probably still do it because one of the main reasons I game this gen is for online so if I wanted a full experience (my Wii doesn't count) then I'd start paying for PSN. I'm very glad Sony is giving us PSN for free so I don't have to worry about this.
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#6 deactivated-60a18c108ffa9
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No. I would just play single player.
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#7 LP4EVA2005
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well im currently paying for XBOX LIVE but if sony were to charge half of what MS charges then i would gladly cancel my service with MS and start paying for PSN (cuz theres no way in hel im going to be paying for 2 online services)
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#8 bluem00se
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I'd pay for it but I'm fine with the PSN the way it is now. The only feature it's really missing is seamless cross-game chat and seamless cross-game invites, stuff like that. But most of my friends have 360s anyways. The one feature I'd want more than any of that stuff is completely seamless cross-game ingame music, whenever you want. Killzone 2 has done it the best so far, but it still sucks compared to the seamless in-game music system the 360 uses. Though that isn't really an online feature, so it wouldn't apply to the PSN thing...
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#9 b3yondstupidity
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Nope, that'd just be stupid.
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#10 Dark-Star13
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I would definitely...................NOT!!!!!!

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#11 ZenesisX
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I wouldn't, i would feel ripped off that what was once free is now price tagged.

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#12 nethernova
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No, never. I don't care about all those features at all. I don't need cross-game chat and funky stuff like that. I only want the simple online gaming which I'm already paying for by purchasing games and an internet connection.
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I'm with all the other crazy people. I probably would pay for it. :P

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#14 G-Legend
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Hell no.

Beyond the fact that I don't really play online anyway, there is simply no excuse for Sony (or Microsoft) to charge to play online. If the PC offers free online play that runs better, often feature free DLC, not to mention mod support, then I see no reason that console manufacturers should charge.

nyc05

Agreed, the thing is, I think Sony CAN offer those same things for free, they'd just have to do it differently, hopefully in the near future they will add similar friend things like that. The one thing sony desperately needs is in-game chatroom, if they had that, then PSN would definately be a lot closer to XBL, because it would act like a party feature and would allow you to talk to your friends whilst gaming.

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#15 redskins2156
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I would not pay for online, I already pay $59.99 for the games, why do I have to pay more just to play it online.

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#16 mitchconlin
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theres noway, i dont pay for xbl why would i pay for psn?

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[QUOTE="nyc05"]

Hell no.

Beyond the fact that I don't really play online anyway, there is simply no excuse for Sony (or Microsoft) to charge to play online. If the PC offers free online play that runs better, often feature free DLC, not to mention mod support, then I see no reason that console manufacturers should charge.

G-Legend

Agreed, the thing is, I think Sony CAN offer those same things for free, they'd just have to do it differently, hopefully in the near future they will add similar friend things like that. The one thing sony desperately needs is in-game chatroom, if they had that, then PSN would definately be a lot closer to XBL, because it would act like a party feature and would allow you to talk to your friends whilst gaming.

To a degree that can be done inside Home, but I don't think you can form a party where everyone is voice chatting. When it comes down to it, Xbox Live Gold members are paying to maintain a service. You see, everything is run by Microsoft and the Xbox Live that's still available from the original black box was just expanded upon. This mean you can still download the extra content for Knights of the Old Republic, and even play Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge if you wanted too. This is a big plus for developers simply because they aren't paying money to maintain servers to provide gamers content. Because of this gamers are force to pay.

The Playstation Networkis notunifiedjust with communication, but every single game that has online multiplayer is hosted by the developer who created it instead of Sony. This is just one reason why Sony doesn't charge users a fee to play games online(or for other *&*^) simply because developers are paying money to host their servers instead of them. The only negative to this is that developers can take servers down if it's costing them more money to maintain it or the popularity of the game is low. For instance, on Xbox Live, Ace Combat 6 has no one playing online during the weekday, and you might find two online sessions during the weekend if you're lucky. If Namco had that game available on the PS3, I'm pretty sure the servers would have been shutdown already. This is a common trend for both PC, and past PS2 games. In fact, Dirge of Cerberus, Final Fantasy VII originally had a online multiplayer mode. It was removed from the NA version, and Square Enix shut down the servers to it in Japan halfway through the year.

There are a lot of PC games today who force users to connect toa developer'snetwork for copyright purposes in order to play online(even if it's free and peer to peer). Companies still have to pay for that. Of course if you have an illegal copy of a game, you can connect to a server created by another player. But he too his force to pay money in order to maintain. Bandwidth isn't free..

At the end of itdeveloperspay money to allow you to play games online for free on the PC and PS3. With Xbox Live you pay the moneydevelopers would have paid in order to maintain Microsoft's online service. That's also why developers aren't as hesistant to put DLC on Live either. Both the Sony and Microsoft do have a sort of one-time "installation" charge for developers putting content on their service. But as some of you just found out, Sony charges developers $0.16 per GB consumed bygamers for the first couple of months the content is on their network.

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#18 chathuranga
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I don't play much online anyways so probably not.
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#19 G-Legend
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[QUOTE="G-Legend"]

[QUOTE="nyc05"]

Hell no.

Beyond the fact that I don't really play online anyway, there is simply no excuse for Sony (or Microsoft) to charge to play online. If the PC offers free online play that runs better, often feature free DLC, not to mention mod support, then I see no reason that console manufacturers should charge.

NeoGen85

Agreed, the thing is, I think Sony CAN offer those same things for free, they'd just have to do it differently, hopefully in the near future they will add similar friend things like that. The one thing sony desperately needs is in-game chatroom, if they had that, then PSN would definately be a lot closer to XBL, because it would act like a party feature and would allow you to talk to your friends whilst gaming.

To a degree that can be done inside Home, but I don't think you can form a party where everyone is voice chatting. When it comes down to it, Xbox Live Gold members are paying to maintain a service. You see, everything is run by Microsoft and the Xbox Live that's still available from the original black box was just expanded upon. This mean you can still download the extra content for Knights of the Old Republic, and even play Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge if you wanted too. This is a big plus for developers simply because they aren't paying money to maintain servers to provide gamers content. Because of this gamers are force to pay.

The Playstation Networkis notunifiedjust with communication, but every single game that has online multiplayer is hosted by the developer who created it instead of Sony. This is just one reason why Sony doesn't charge users a fee to play games online(or for other *&*^) simply because developers are paying money to host their servers instead of them. The only negative to this is that developers can take servers down if it's costing them more money to maintain it or the popularity of the game is low. For instance, on Xbox Live, Ace Combat 6 has no one playing online during the weekday, and you might find two online sessions during the weekend if you're lucky. If Namco had that game available on the PS3, I'm pretty sure the servers would have been shutdown already. This is a common trend for both PC, and past PS2 games. In fact, Dirge of Cerberus, Final Fantasy VII originally had a online multiplayer mode. It was removed from the NA version, and Square Enix shut down the servers to it in Japan halfway through the year.

There are a lot of PC games today who force users to connect toa developer'snetwork for copyright purposes in order to play online(even if it's free and peer to peer). Companies still have to pay for that. Of course if you have an illegal copy of a game, you can connect to a server created by another player. But he too his force to pay money in order to maintain. Bandwidth isn't free..

At the end of itdeveloperspay money to allow you to play games online for free on the PC and PS3. With Xbox Live you pay the moneydevelopers would have paid in order to maintain Microsoft's online service. That's also why developers aren't as hesistant to put DLC on Live either. Both the Sony and Microsoft do have a sort of one-time "installation" charge for developers putting content on their service. But as some of you just found out, Sony charges developers $0.16 per GB consumed bygamers for the first couple of months the content is on their network.

If Sony re-vamped they could do it through home. They could just run their system through home practically. Invites, game launching, chat, accessing the store, but it's seperate from PSN. That's a problem Sony either works on home or on PSN.

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#20 thelastguy
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I would only pay for the PSN if it was better than LIVE

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#21 psyum
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No :) i wouldnt :) i would just be doing what some do on LIVE just creat an infinite amount of accounts to play for free :P
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#22 Kashiwaba
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does anyone know that PSN is protecting sony from making people install full pirated games on the HDD and thats one of the reasons that sony will keep PS\n free forever.

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#23 byrdcjb100
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if it cost id switch to 360

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#24 Steel_Rain777
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Hell no.

Beyond the fact that I don't really play online anyway, there is simply no excuse for Sony (or Microsoft) to charge to play online. If the PC offers free online play that runs better, often feature free DLC, not to mention mod support, then I see no reason that console manufacturers should charge.

nyc05

^^^ Amen, Brother

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#25 MarcRecon
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if you would have asked this question a year ago, I would have said HECK NO, but now I would say HECK YEAH!!! With all of the updates over the past year or so it's finally up to par with most of XBL's features.

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#26 mmielnik
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No, considering the fact that PSN isnt even half as good as Xbox Live now there is no way i would pay for it unless somehow it surpassed xbox live. Im a poor college kid and there is no way i could handle 2 payments for seperate online accounts. I dont see sony ever surpassing microsoft in online gaming, microsoft has that niche.

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#27 MarcRecon
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does anyone know that PSN is protecting sony from making people install full pirated games on the HDD and thats one of the reasons that sony will keep PS\n free forever.

Kashiwaba

Yeah I heard that from one of my super geek buddies....but the free thing I'm not to sure about. lol....even if they did start to charge, I would be cool with it "ONLY" if they charge the same or less then LIVE

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#28 MarcRecon
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No, considering the fact that PSN isnt even half as good as Xbox Live now there is no way i would pay for it unless somehow it surpassed xbox live. Im a poor college kid and there is no way i could handle 2 payments for seperate online accounts. I dont see sony ever surpassing microsoft in online gaming, microsoft has that niche.

mmielnik

I use live to dude, what exactly does it offer that the PSN doesn't.(other then voice messaging)???

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I'm not sure if I would, I guess I would have to if I couldn't game online though.

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#30 volume_three
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No way. Granted I only purchase exclusive titles for my PS3.

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#31 G-Legend
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No, considering the fact that PSN isnt even half as good as Xbox Live now there is no way i would pay for it unless somehow it surpassed xbox live. Im a poor college kid and there is no way i could handle 2 payments for seperate online accounts. I dont see sony ever surpassing microsoft in online gaming, microsoft has that niche.

mmielnik

Read my post i said granted it offered the same things live did.

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#32 Furi-Kun
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If they do that, then I would have to get a job.

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#33 NpaMercenary
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Yep. I would pay it.

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#34 doomsday_selena
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Maybe Sony should make some killer new games for the PS3 to make money instead of going the easy way out because there are SO many boring PS3 games it's unbelievable.
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#35 b11051973
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95% of my online gaming is on Xbox 360. If Sony started charging, I would not pay. Unless of course they updated the PSN to be more like Xbox Live.
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#36 iamshivy
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i would find a new hobby

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#37 AnthonyLuu
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hell no. i don't even play online that much anyways

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#38 -Shooter-
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No thanks.

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#39 envybianchi
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I would not pay for online, I already pay $59.99 for the games, why do I have to pay more just to play it online.

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#41 nelfer320
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[QUOTE="redskins2156"]

I would not pay for online, I already pay $59.99 for the games, why do I have to pay more just to play it online.

envybianchi

That is why I'm not an online gamer.
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#42 backatcha
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I would pay.

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It would be better
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#44 Karaam
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I would if it ended up surpassing the xbox live like other ppl said, but no the hefty amount of 60$, I already have to spend that amount on games, now even more since I live in Canada and because of the economy and the cost of importation, some 3rd party games cost 65 even 70 dollars plus the taxes, 80 bucks droping on one friggin game. So that sums it up.
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#45 Ipik_Fenris
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maybe ill switch to PC gaming...50 bucks for live is one of the reasons why i dont own a 360 (besides RRoD)

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#46 jcopp72
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no, i wouldnt use PSN anymore, no more online play
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no
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I'd start buying all multiplatform games on the 360 if Sony charged. I personally like how the Xbox does their online (and I highly doubt paying for online would make them pump features out any faster that XBL has) in terms of the party groups specifically and other minor things. Also, they arnt missing the custom soundtrack for sports games in all their games (EA soundtracks suck), so its a more complete game. If I am going to pay, I may as well pay to play what all my friends got
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#50 Wild_Card
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Hell no.

Beyond the fact that I don't really play online anyway, there is simply no excuse for Sony (or Microsoft) to charge to play online. If the PC offers free online play that runs better, often feature free DLC, not to mention mod support, then I see no reason that console manufacturers should charge.

nyc05
agreed. but um didnt you get on to me last week about mentuning the PC on ps3 boards?