Would you boycott Lucas Arts?

How are you going to Boycott them?

The smart thing to do would be to not buy any of their games.

Their chance of redemption is to released Jedi Knight: IV but I really doubt that will happen anytime soon.

How are you going to Boycott them?

The smart thing to do would be to not buy any of their games.

Their chance of redemption is to released Jedi Knight: IV but I really doubt that will happen anytime soon.

biggest_loser

not falling for the KOTOR mmo hype and eventually not buying it? I would gladly get into a new MMO from blizzard. At least they are honest and stick with us.

I buy the games I want, and don't buy the games I don't want. Regardless of who makes them. If BioShock 2 is a masterpiece, I'll buy it. If Epic ever makes a good game ever again, I'll buy it. If Bungie works on a PC game, and it's a good title, I'll buy it.

I'm not going to miss out on a great game over principles, because it doesn't make a damn bit of difference to anyone but me, and if I skip a great game, the only person who's losing out is me. There are petitions of upwards of fifty thousand signatures asking for TFU on PC, and it means squat.

There just aren't enough people who care to make a difference. I'll be buying TFU for my Wii. I won't be buying the KotoR MMO because it's an MMO.

the fact that it's an MMO turns me off. anyone could make it, but I'm not getting this.bulletsword

My thoughts exactly :)

How many of these topics have we had in the PC forums before where someone says "boycott X company because of Z reason?"

If a games good and appeals to you then buy it. If you really want to play the Force Unleashed then buy one of the many platforms its going to be released on and enjoy.

1. i will not boycott a good game if it comes to pc iirespetive of whoever makes

2.lucas arts are publishing the game and not making it

Dont see reasons why so much mmo haters.

MMO is great genre and even if we must pay for it (WOW) its not that expencive afterall.

How many of these topics have we had in the PC forums before where someone says "boycott X company because of Z reason?"

If a games good and appeals to you then buy it. If you really want to play the Force Unleashed then buy one of the many platforms its going to be released on and enjoy.

1005

I agree with you completely..I'm tired of people just wanting to get rid of a company just because they dont like their games..or because they just try to be successful as a business and trying to make a profit...Thats the whole point of being a business and a company..to make money...so just let them do their job...if their games arent good then you dont buy them..its that simple..you dont need to boycott..?

How many of these topics have we had in the PC forums before where someone says "boycott X company because of Z reason?"

If a games good and appeals to you then buy it. If you really want to play the Force Unleashed then buy one of the many platforms its going to be released on and enjoy.

1005

I did not ask anybody to boycott any company. i just asked a question.

1. i will not boycott a good game if it comes to pc iirespetive of whoever makes

2.lucas arts are publishing the game and not making it

naval

So ea that owns the developer, bioware, will give their most ambitious game to lucas arts to publish it? doesnt make any sense to me.

I'll get the 360 version. Like others said, your loss if the game turns out to be awesome.artur79

too bad the game will be pc exclusive.

Dont see reasons why so much mmo haters.

MMO is great genre and even if we must pay for it (WOW) its not that expencive afterall.

_rpg_FAN

what does this have to do with what i said? i never said that i hate mmos. what annoys me is that developers see it as the only way to milk us while ignoring our existance with other types of games.

So do you want to boycott them because they are making kotor mmo pc exclusive?lenson

did anybody even read what i said?? seriously...

Ok here is the deal. Everybody heard about the upcoming Kotor MMO which will be a product of a bioware and lucas arts partnership, though the situation is still a bit unclear. So lucas arts is bringing star wars force unleashed to any possible platform except pc and the worst of all makes up a lame excuse for that. However, KOTOR mmo is supposed to be pc exclusive. my point is this is what do they think of us? "oh here are the pc gamers, lets milk them with an mmo but screw them with other games". I will definitely boycott them.SamiRDuran

Ok... how many people do you actually believe would follow the boycott of a BIOWARE game? "Welcome to the KOToR MMO hater board.... there are 3 people online. Please sign up to post!"

Boycotts, like petitions, do not work.

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]Ok here is the deal. Everybody heard about the upcoming Kotor MMO which will be a product of a bioware and lucas arts partnership, though the situation is still a bit unclear. So lucas arts is bringing star wars force unleashed to any possible platform except pc and the worst of all makes up a lame excuse for that. However, KOTOR mmo is supposed to be pc exclusive. my point is this is what do they think of us? "oh here are the pc gamers, lets milk them with an mmo but screw them with other games". I will definitely boycott them.Johnny_Rock

Ok... how many people do you actually believe would follow the boycott of a BIOWARE game? "Welcome to the KOToR MMO hater board.... there are 3 people online. Please sign up to post!"

Boycotts, like petitions, do not work.

the point of this thread was to see if anybody is pissed of at lucas arts enough to make a difference in their future games. no one will go on the streets to protest against them. but what will happen on this scenario: bioware and lucas art's MMO is ready for release at around the same time with Blizzard's next mmo. I believe almost everybody will follow blizzard and one of the reasons will be the fact that they stick with us through hard times, they dont only offer us an mmo but all their future games are pc exclusives.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]Ok here is the deal. Everybody heard about the upcoming Kotor MMO which will be a product of a bioware and lucas arts partnership, though the situation is still a bit unclear. So lucas arts is bringing star wars force unleashed to any possible platform except pc and the worst of all makes up a lame excuse for that. However, KOTOR mmo is supposed to be pc exclusive. my point is this is what do they think of us? "oh here are the pc gamers, lets milk them with an mmo but screw them with other games". I will definitely boycott them.SamiRDuran

Ok... how many people do you actually believe would follow the boycott of a BIOWARE game? "Welcome to the KOToR MMO hater board.... there are 3 people online. Please sign up to post!"

Boycotts, like petitions, do not work.

the point of this thread was to see if anybody is pissed of at lucas arts enough to make a difference in their future games. no one will go on the streets to protest against them. but what will happen on this scenario: bioware and lucas art's MMO is ready for release at around the same time with Blizzard's next mmo. I believe almost everybody will follow blizzard and one of the reasons will be the fact that they stick with us through hard times, they dont only offer us an mmo but all their future games are pc exclusives.

Now the example you just gave here has nothing to do with a boycott. The fact that people might go with Blizzard has nothing to do with the fact that EA is making The Force Unleashed, console only. And it also has nothing to do with Blizzard sticking with the PC community. It has everything to do with they make good games.

too bad the game will be pc exclusive.

Are we talking about the same game? TFU?

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]Ok here is the deal. Everybody heard about the upcoming Kotor MMO which will be a product of a bioware and lucas arts partnership, though the situation is still a bit unclear. So lucas arts is bringing star wars force unleashed to any possible platform except pc and the worst of all makes up a lame excuse for that. However, KOTOR mmo is supposed to be pc exclusive. my point is this is what do they think of us? "oh here are the pc gamers, lets milk them with an mmo but screw them with other games". I will definitely boycott them.Johnny_Rock

Ok... how many people do you actually believe would follow the boycott of a BIOWARE game? "Welcome to the KOToR MMO hater board.... there are 3 people online. Please sign up to post!"

Boycotts, like petitions, do not work.

the point of this thread was to see if anybody is pissed of at lucas arts enough to make a difference in their future games. no one will go on the streets to protest against them. but what will happen on this scenario: bioware and lucas art's MMO is ready for release at around the same time with Blizzard's next mmo. I believe almost everybody will follow blizzard and one of the reasons will be the fact that they stick with us through hard times, they dont only offer us an mmo but all their future games are pc exclusives.

Now the example you just gave here has nothing to do with a boycott. The fact that people might go with Blizzard has nothing to do with the fact that EA is making The Force Unleashed, console only. And it also has nothing to do with Blizzard sticking with the PC community. It has everything to do with they make good games.

sorry but this is no true at all. countless of examples. how come crysis was and still is so hyped? how come far cry 2 lost most of its hype,even if it looks amazing, when it was announced as a multiplatform game? you are just kidding yourself...

of course blizzard makes good games but so do lots of other companies.

What I got from your post was you were mad to begin with for Force Unleashed not coming to pc, but also Lucasarts and Bioware bringing a Kotor mmo exclusively to pc ticked you off even more? So I am just wondering why you seem so mad about the Kotor mmo coming to pc? I may be mistaken, you may not care at all, that would be more logical, who gets mad over a game coming to their platform, but if not why bring it up?

As for what they think of us, a mmo on pc is the most obvious choice. So they are probably only thinking what platform is most logical to put the game on. Pc is the main platform for the mmo genre afterall. Biowares' reasons for not bringing kotor to consoles is probably along the lines of it being just too much trouble. Its not easy to develop a mmo for a console.

I don't recall what reasons Lucasarts gave for not bringing Force Unleashed to pc. If piracy was one of those issues, well a mmo would not have an issue with that. But it does seem they obviously just do not have any faith in the pc platform. Many companies seem to be doing the same thing, like EA sports starting to cancel all their franchises for pc for example. Upsetting as it is that I won't see Force unleashed on pc, I don't see a boycott being effective anyways. If its not coming to pc then I just won't bother thats all. There is plenty of other things to do, so I won't get so worked up over one game.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

How are you going to Boycott them?

The smart thing to do would be to not buy any of their games.

Their chance of redemption is to released Jedi Knight: IV but I really doubt that will happen anytime soon.

SamiRDuran

not falling for the KOTOR mmo hype and eventually not buying it? I would gladly get into a new MMO from blizzard. At least they are honest and stick with us.

blizz is making a next gen MMO so dont worry, just wait

I am a bit annoyed that TFU isn't on PC when it's on every other platform from DS to PS3, and the fact that I used to love Lucasarts thanks to Jedi Knights, Monkey Islands and whatnot only adds salt to the wounds. Well, most "jedi" games outside the jedi knight series have sucked, so maybe TFU will suck too, then I'll just laugh.

I'm not gonna boycott Kotor MMO tho, since that would be pointless when I'm unlikely to get it anyway.

I generally tend to skip Lucas Arts games nowadays as they seem to have become obsessed with making Star Wars games. Star Wars is good but Lucas Arts have long gone past the point of simply milking it.

The only way to boycott them would be to not buy any games that had their involvement.

And also would like to say is also Pc's gamers are getting games that we would never see come to this platform. Such as Devil May Cry 4. This game was only on consoles but now its here on the PC. So its obviously PC gaming has a market otherwise we wouldn't see Devil May Cry 4 on the pc.

And Furthermore i even read somewhere that Resident Evil 5 will come to the PC after its been launched for the consoles. As far as lucas arts goes i think because they just want to target the console audience but the fact remains is pc gaming can't no longer be ignored so give it sometime and who knows they can just make a 160 and will see more of there games on the pc.

This trend nowadays is anything is possible. Not telling what other games pc gamers will see in the future.

Ok here is the deal. Everybody heard about the upcoming Kotor MMO which will be a product of a bioware and lucas arts partnership, though the situation is still a bit unclear. So lucas arts is bringing star wars force unleashed to any possible platform except pc and the worst of all makes up a lame excuse for that. However, KOTOR mmo is supposed to be pc exclusive. my point is this is what do they think of us? "oh here are the pc gamers, lets milk them with an mmo but screw them with other games". I will definitely boycott them.SamiRDuran

I understand what you're saying, for example I hate Ubisoft and I avoid all their games like plague, the reason is simple, I hate being ripped off. Double Agent was the last game I bought from Ubisoft, and I'm sure many PC gamers know what I mean.

If you feel that Lucas Arts doesn't deserve your money, then don't buy their games, it's as simple as that. You shouldn't care that others don't share your opinions or try to convince them to do the same.

a boycott doesent help. if lucasarts and bioware deliver quality then u should get it. it might make the suits there sit up and think "hmm....there is alot of money there" and thus we get more developer support. more developer support is very rarely a bad thing.

boycotting a company because they dont bring all their games to a platform and they say stupid things sometimes doesent make much sense. if they deliver quality then quality should be rewarded with sales.

The fact that people might go with Blizzard has nothing to do with the fact that EA is making The Force Unleashed, console only. Johnny_Rock

[QUOTE="naval"]

1. i will not boycott a good game if it comes to pc iirespetive of whoever makes

2.lucas arts are publishing the game and not making it

SamiRDuran

So ea that owns the developer, bioware, will give their most ambitious game to lucas arts to publish it? doesnt make any sense to me.

well EA has no choice as Lucas Arts has the rights to star wars franchise

Boycotts, like petitions, do not work. Johnny_Rock

On the contrary. Petitions don't work because they are based on words. Boycotts do work because they are based on money.

Let's do the math. At the time of me writing this, there are 29135 petition signatures, (http://www.petitiononline.com/g5d4iu5f/petition.html) and it looks like the petition is not working. It is reasonable to assume that LA is aware of the petition and are not making the PC version for reasons other than peer pressure. (Making a PC version: $some cost. Making a good PC version: $more. Thousands of signatures on a petition: $worthless.)

Now, suppose this was a boycott instead of the petition. That is, 29135 fans decided to stop buying future LA products until LA releases something great enough to appease them, notably TFU for PC. At the bare minimum, considering that each was only planning to buy one more game or month-subscription to SWG, at $15 each, the total revenue loss would be $437,025.00, close to half a million dollars. On a more reallistic estimate, assuming they would eventually buy on average 5 more newly-released games, at $50 each or a similar value in subscriptions or a combined value thereof, the revenue loss would approximate $7,283,750.00.

As you can imagine, such a kick in the wallet would probably get their attention.

Now, I have to agree that it's unreasonable to expect anyone to boycott a company that is expected to release great games, and I don't expect anyone to do so. Fortunately for us who do boycott, Lucas Arts seems to be going downhill anyway, so it's not like we're going to miss much. At the same time, if it does release that which appeases our boycott, we won't miss out either because our boycott would be appeased. We can see how LA was affected by this in the past. The exodus from SWG that resulted from the dreaded updates took its toll; the once-great MMO is now approaching termination.

Words are just words, and can be generated indefinitely by a monkey on a typewriter; but every wallet is a real wallet, and makes a real-world difference. I am a PC-gaming fan, but I have a Wii and a PS2. And a fat wallet, too, but it comes with a habit of buying things carefully. If I was to play TFU on either console, I still wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much as I would on my ubercomputermachine. Why would I pay for a game if I won't enjoy it? To me, the boycott is again the reasonable choice.

In conclusion, I'm boycotting for my own reason. I encourage everyone to boycott or not boycott for their own reasons.

[QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]Boycotts, like petitions, do not work. Nikolai_siberia

On the contrary. Petitions don't work because they are based on words. Boycotts do work because they are based on money.

Let's do the math. At the time of me writing this, there are 29135 petition signatures, (http://www.petitiononline.com/g5d4iu5f/petition.html) and it looks like the petition is not working. It is reasonable to assume that LA is aware of the petition and are not making the PC version for reasons other than peer pressure. (Making a PC version: $some cost. Making a good PC version: $more. Thousands of signatures on a petition: $worthless.)

Now, suppose this was a boycott instead of the petition. That is, 29135 fans decided to stop buying future LA products until LA releases something great enough to appease them, notably TFU for PC. At the bare minimum, considering that each was only planning to buy one more game or month-subscription to SWG, at $15 each, the total revenue loss would be $437,025.00, close to half a million dollars. On a more reallistic estimate, assuming they would eventually buy on average 5 more newly-released games, at $50 each or a similar value in subscriptions or a combined value thereof, the revenue loss would approximate $7,283,750.00.

As you can imagine, such a kick in the wallet would probably get their attention.

Now, I have to agree that it's unreasonable to expect anyone to boycott a company that is expected to release great games, and I don't expect anyone to do so. Fortunately for us who do boycott, Lucas Arts seems to be going downhill anyway, so it's not like we're going to miss much. At the same time, if it does release that which appeases our boycott, we won't miss out either because our boycott would be appeased. We can see how LA was affected by this in the past. The exodus from SWG that resulted from the dreaded updates took its toll; the once-great MMO is now approaching termination.

Words are just words, and can be generated indefinitely by a monkey on a typewriter; but every wallet is a real wallet, and makes a real-world difference. I am a PC-gaming fan, but I have a Wii and a PS2. And a fat wallet, too, but it comes with a habit of buying things carefully. If I was to play TFU on either console, I still wouldn't enjoy it nearly as much as I would on my ubercomputermachine. Why would I pay for a game if I won't enjoy it? To me, the boycott is again the reasonable choice.

In conclusion, I'm boycotting for my own reason. I encourage everyone to boycott or not boycott for their own reasons.

It would seem to me that it would only prove LA's point. If their sales on the PC platform drop it simply shown them that they were right in moving away from the PC platform?

BTW some people here are posting the the KotR MMO will be a PC exclusive, is there anything substantial to that or is it just a rumor floating around?

Would I boycott Lucas Arts...???

Only if I got paid.