Thinking of going 1080p.

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#1 agpickle
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My current monitor is a 1440x900 18.5in Dell. It works just fine, but its tempting to make the jump to 1080p. The only thing making me think twice is that I have a 768mb GTX 460. How bad would the FPS drop be? Or should I just stick with my current monitor since it works fine and focus on other areas to improve?

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#2 deactivated-60e799a72eb68
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Unless you're willing to drop $280 on this or better, you'd be wasting your money.

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#3 MK-Professor
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Depends on the CPU you have. for example if you have a weak CPU that bottlenecks your GTX460, then the jump to 1080p will not decrease your fps very much. but if you have a strong CPU then you are going to see a big fps drop going from 1440x900 to 1920x1080.

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#4 patsfan217
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You don't need to drop $280 on a monitor...

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#5 agpickle
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Depends on the CPU you have. for example if you have a weak CPU that bottlenecks your GTX460, then the jump to 1080p will not decrease your fps very much. but if you have a strong CPU then you are going to see a big fps drop going from 1440x900 to 1920x1080.

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That doesn't sound right, a CPU that bottlenecks won't decrease fps much? Its a Athlon II x4 @ 2.8GHz. I don't think that would be a bottleneck.

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#6 Tezcatlipoca666
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I went from a 1600x900 20" to a 1920x1080 21.5" monitor. It was definitely worth it! Granted, my GPU is stronger than yours but I think that you'll really appreciate the resolution difference, even if it costs you a few FPS.

Don't listen to those saying you need an IPS panel by the way. A good quality TN panel is just fine for gaming.

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#7 jedikevin2
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As a Guy with the same gpu and has a many 1080p monitors in the house(my nominal monitor though is 19 inch 1440x900), the FPS hit can be severe on this card depending on game. It will depend if you hit that Ram cap. Once you do, fps will drop significantly. Honeslty, I would say if you move up in resolution, move to a more modest 1650x1050 resolution with the 768mb GTX 460. Maybe get a Monitor that can do 1650x1050 and 1080p which each resolution still looking crisp.

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#9 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

Depends on the CPU you have. for example if you have a weak CPU that bottlenecks your GTX460, then the jump to 1080p will not decrease your fps very much. but if you have a strong CPU then you are going to see a big fps drop going from 1440x900 to 1920x1080.

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That doesn't sound right, a CPU that bottlenecks won't decrease fps much? Its a Athlon II x4 @ 2.8GHz. I don't think that would be a bottleneck.

When you play at a higher rez the CPU bottleneck will become much less.

The Athlon II x4 @ 2.8GHz is a average CPU. so right now in 1440x900 you do not have a serious bottleneck(depend on the game).

examples

Athlon II x4 @ 2.8GHz && GTX460 - in mafia 2 you are going to see a big drop in fps going from 900p to 1080p, because this game is not CPU intensive, so the GPU in working 100% even in small resolutions.

Athlon II x4 @ 2.8GHz && GTX460 - in starcraft 2 you are NOT going to see a any fps drop going from 900p to 1080p, because this game is very CPU intensive, so the GPU is not going to use the full potential in small resolutions.


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#10 omnimodis78
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You pose a good question! Well, I would not worry if I were you. If you decide to get the new monitor, your FPS might (and only might) drop by a few FPS and only at some parts of the game. The GTX460 might not be the king of nvidia's lineup, but it's one of the most shining crown jewel, so have faith in it! :-)

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#11 fishing666
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omg i can't think of any gaming with resolutions less than 1080p. my 5770 does alright at 1080p but i play at medium settings
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#12 deactivated-60e799a72eb68
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You don't need to drop $280 on a monitor...

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You should. Spending $120-200 on a flimsy pos when you could put that money to much better performance or picturer quality is only logical.

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#13 jedikevin2
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omg i can't think of any gaming with resolutions less than 1080p. my 5770 does alright at 1080p but i play at medium settingsfishing666
I can.. Oh well.. To each his own.
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#14 imprezawrx500
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your card will be fine, my 8800gt can run most games on high in 1080p. There isn't really a big reason to up your resolution for gaming unless you want a bigger screen though, but out side of gaming the extra space is so useful.
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#15 kaitanuvax
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1080P is not the slayer of video cards. Most people exaggerate the amount of power needed for it. Your GTX 460 will be fine.

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#16 agpickle
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Thanks guys, I guess I'll get one sooner than later.

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#17 NamelessPlayer
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You don't need to drop $280 on a monitor...

patsfan217
I've seen people spend over $2,000 on monitors, possibly $5,000. Either HDTVs or professional-grade monitors for color-critical work. Meanwhile, I get by on a $10 Sun GDM-5410 (FD Trinitron G1). Do I need a higher-end monitor? No. Do I want one? Perhaps, if only for the higher resolutions (though I'd lose out on gaming performance by moving away from aperture grille CRTs).

Don't listen to those saying you need an IPS panel by the way. A good quality TN panel is just fine for gaming.

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You don't NEED an IPS panel by any means, but it's nice to have. Just like it's nice to have a GDM-FW900 or other FD Trinitron G1W-based monitor, which is pretty much the best widescreen gaming monitor in existence...if it works. My issue with TN is that the viewing angles suck, especially along the vertical. Is this going to concern the gamer who always views the monitor dead-on? No. Is it going to concern someone that uses a TrackIR or other such head-tracking device that inherently requires the user to shift his head around and view the monitor off-axis? Definitely.
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#18 firedrakes
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am sorry but you will not notice a difference between 720 and 1080p until you hit 40 inch or above screen then 1080p is the only way to go
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#19 Tezcatlipoca666
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am sorry but you will not notice a difference between 720 and 1080p until you hit 40 inch or above screen then 1080p is the only way to gofiredrakes

I am sorry but your vision must suck. Please go see an optometrist...

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#20 deactivated-60e799a72eb68
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[QUOTE="firedrakes"]am sorry but you will not notice a difference between 720 and 1080p until you hit 40 inch or above screen then 1080p is the only way to goTezcatlipoca666

I am sorry but your vision must suck. Please go see an optometrist...

That, or he has no concept of viewing distance.

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#21 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="Tezcatlipoca666"]

[QUOTE="firedrakes"]am sorry but you will not notice a difference between 720 and 1080p until you hit 40 inch or above screen then 1080p is the only way to go6_Dead_360s

I am sorry but your vision must suck. Please go see an optometrist...

That, or he has no concept of viewing distance.

Maybe...

what he said might make more sense if we were talking about TV's where you sit farther but we are talking about PC monitors!

:P

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#22 tequilasunriser
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am sorry but you will not notice a difference between 720 and 1080p until you hit 40 inch or above screen then 1080p is the only way to gofiredrakes
You're thinking of TVs at viewing distances of 5 to 6 feet and beyond. Monitors do not apply to that archaic adage.
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#23 Tauruslink
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I recently made the switch from 1680x1050 to 1080P with a GTX 460 768mb myself. Games run fine. I don't think you have much to worry about. Oh and you really don't needand IPS panel. I use one at school for my design class and personally I wouldn't spend the extra money over a TN panel for one.

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#24 firedrakes
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but thats the point a monitor that is 1080p will play content(media) at 1080 but lets say it 22inch you cant tell from 720p to 1080p because the size.
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#25 tequilasunriser
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but thats the point a monitor that is 1080p will play content(media) at 1080 but lets say it 22inch you cant tell from 720p to 1080p because the size. firedrakes
Yes, yes you can tell. Easily, in fact. /discussion
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[QUOTE="firedrakes"]but thats the point a monitor that is 1080p will play content(media) at 1080 but lets say it 22inch you cant tell from 720p to 1080p because the size. tequilasunriser
Yes, yes you can tell. Easily, in fact. /discussion

Its a widely known fact. I think this guy posts the same thing in any discussion regarding those 2 resolutions. Its just troll/flame bait really.

Ignore it. He's doing it on purpose.

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#27 tequilasunriser
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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="firedrakes"]but thats the point a monitor that is 1080p will play content(media) at 1080 but lets say it 22inch you cant tell from 720p to 1080p because the size. ChubbyGuy40

Yes, yes you can tell. Easily, in fact. /discussion

Its a widely known fact. I think this guy posts the same thing in any discussion regarding those 2 resolutions. Its just troll/flame bait really.

Ignore it. He's doing it on purpose.

Sometimes it's hard to decipher if someone is trolling or truly naive, specifically here at Gamespot. Thus, I typically assume the latter.
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#28 firedrakes
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am not trolling. but you guys are not getting the point oh well.
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#29 commander
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To put everything aside here are the numbers

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/21

So at 1080p it get's still 35 fps in crysis but only on gamer settings (so not enthousiast, which is the highest). This is also done with an i7 cpu (which btw makes a difference ). It's not so much the 768 mb that's your problem, it's the chipset , the gtx 460 is a good card even for gaming in 1080p just don't expect any miracles with high-end games.

If i was you i would only get a new monitor after you have bought a better card or go sli. Not that the monitor would be a bad buy but i think you wouldn't have much better quality. You would have higher resolution but you would have less detail. That seems like a bad trade-off if you're already gaming at 1440 x 900.

Still crysis warhead is big sandwich, far cry 2 for instance would run flawlessly at the highest settings on 1080p. You can always lower the resolution for the more 'demanding' games. That's up to you .

I have a similar system like yours only your gpu is a little bit better (i3 530/4gb ddr3/hd 5770 512 mb). My cpu is a little bit better though. I can run crysis almost at very high (i have to lower shadows and textures to high instead of very high) but on '1280 x 1024'. I play on a 4:3 17 inch and i still like it. I prefer smoother framerates and higher detail levels over bigger screens but that's just me. Not to mention that bigger screens will come with higher performance demand.

Your cpu you can keep , it won't bottleneck butI would sell that gtx 460 and get a least a hd 5850, hd 6870, gtx 560 or gtx 470 and then buy yourself a nice 1080p monitor. The hd 6950 or gtx 570 would even be better , it would futureproof you some more

Greetz

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#30 Bozanimal
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Nobody has asked the OP what games he's playing. The jump to 1080p isn't going to affect him with that card if he's just playing World of Warcraft. Mr. Pickle, the games in your "Now Playing" list are all XBox360, but it looks like you're an FPS fan, so if you're playing FPS titles on the PC 1080p will be an issue if you're looking to run everything on its maximum settings at the native resolution. You'll have to ratchet down certain details, like anti-aliasing.

Personally I find gaming to be acceptable outside the native resolution with FPS titles (RTS and RPGs, not so much), but your mileage may vary.

Happy gaming,

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#31 Matrix
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Love my 23" LED HD 1080p Samsung monitor. Only complaint is I kinda regret buying LED since there is a very slight blue hue on whites outside of gaming. I've grown used to it though. Games look so beautiful on it at least.
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#32 XaosII
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am not trolling. but you guys are not getting the point oh well. firedrakes

No, we all do understand what you're saying. What we are telling you is that doesn't apply to monitors.

People tend to sit closer to monitors than TV's for the simple reason that most people spend a large portion of their time reading on monitors. Reading froma distance can be difficult so people sit closer. The closer you sit, the more perceivable a higher resolution is. With text, this effect is double since text is thin, high definition, and very contrasting.

Ever written a report on your HDTV sitting at 5 feet away? No? I wouldn't recommend trying it.

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#33 kraken2109
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I think some people are over reacting. A GTX460 is better than my GTX 275 and I play all my games at 1080p no problem.