seriously PC gamers you are killing me! i was asking about parts a couple of weeks ago to do a huge upgrade from my low end rig. i already upgraded the monitor as you can see in my sign. the thing is parts are very very expensive in here. anyway i was at a store asking about the Q6700, and a 9800GT. suddenly a guy approched me and told me to go inside with him... i did and he kind of snapped at me saying "WTH are you doing? Q6700? 9800GT? get the i7 and at least a 250 GTS" it was a huge slap in the face, because im already paying around 650$ for a new mobo,9800GT and a Q6700. to get the i7 and a 250GTS i need at least another 250$ which is outragous just to play games. i even contacted a guy from here and he started to tell me how the LG775 or whatever is a dead socket...etc. so in all seriousness, help me with the following:

1) CPU: the Q6700 is 200$ here, should i get it or not? should i get a C2d instead and invest more in the GPU? my point is a C2Q will serve me more on the long run, when games start to actually use quad cores.

2) GPU: the 9800GT is 200$ here. the 9800GTX/250GTS is about 260$. cant i just OC the 9800GT and get the same performance? or should i do as i said in 1.

3) MOBO: im looking for an ASUS one. is the P5Q a good one? ill pay extra to get an SLI supported one. is it worth it to SLI my 8500? i get a good performance when i overclock it so i think it may do me good. if i get an SLI supported mobo, is SLI the 8500 ith the 9800GT will enable me to get the 9800GT instead of the very expensive 9800GTX/250GTS and this pay more for a quad core?

this is my last try to actually upgrade my rig. if i failed, i will forget about gaming because honestly its not worth more than 600$ to me.

The Q6700 is basically the Q6600 with an upped FSB, no? If so, then I would suggest going for the Q6600, get a decent CPU cooler, and overclock it to match the Q6700. That is only if it's the same price, though. As for debating on a C2D, I would say no, since it'll only hurt you in the long run as more games become multi-core optimized.

For the 9800GT vs GTS 250, I don't really know if you can OC a 9800GT to match the GTS 250. I'm sure you can come close, since it is quite a beast of a card, but I would suggest going for the GTS 250 since, well, the GTS 250 can be OC'ed too. Even a 4850/4770 would do well if it is cheaper, since it does match a GTS 250 in terms of performance.

You could also get something like the Q9400 or 9550 if you need more performance than your Q6700 has. I suggest you to get first the graphicscard, dont be minded to stop gaming only because your crappy 8500 GT.

You could also get something like the Q9400 or 9550 if you need more performance than your Q6700 has. I suggest you to get first the graphicscard, dont be minded to stop gaming only because your crappy 8500 GT.

SLIisaownsystem

You could also get something like the Q9400 or 9550 if you need more performance than your Q6700 has. I suggest you to get first the graphicscard, dont be minded to stop gaming only because your crappy 8500 GT.

SLIisaownsystem

He doesn't have the Q6700 yet; he's debating if he should buy it or not. But you do have a point, though; you'll see the most difference in gameplay when you upgrade your GPU. One option you have is just getting a CPU cooler and overclocking that e2180. That thing can reach 3.0 ghz easily with a good CPU cooler. Of course, the major downside is sticking with a mediocre dual-core, but if your budget is tight, then that overclocked processor should be adequate for a bit. That and the fact that you could potentially use your money to upgrade to the LGA 1156/LGA 1366/AM3 socket motherboard and processor when you have enough.

Recomendation: Buy Online

The Q6700 is not being sold in the major online retailers. They have restocked with 45nm quad-cores that cost less but perform better.

Intel Core2 Quad Q9400: 189.99 /w Free Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115131

EVGA 512-P3-1150-TR GeForce GTS 250: 134.99 /w Free Shipping

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=48&name=Desktop-Graphics-Video-Cards

The GTS 250 is not $250, and retail stores overcharge way too much. I have never had any problems with buying products from this website. The guy you were talking with has a point, because you are buying outdated hardware at high prices.

I think this is affordable, don't you?

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

You could also get something like the Q9400 or 9550 if you need more performance than your Q6700 has. I suggest you to get first the graphicscard, dont be minded to stop gaming only because your crappy 8500 GT.

GazaAli

For your motherboard question, I would not spend more money on a motherboard with a socket being phased-out. The SLi'ed 8500GT's could potentially come close to the 9800gt, but it's a waste of money, imo.

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

ender2009

Why go with a dead socket? AMD and AM3 better price vs performance. And grab a 8800GTS 512,9800GTX or GTS 250 because they are very close to being the same. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131367&cm_re=am3_am2%2b_sli-_-13-131-367-_-Producthttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103656&cm_re=phenom_2_x4-_-19-103-656-_-Product

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

ender2009

Way to go! :D

[QUOTE="ender2009"]

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

GazaAli

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

[QUOTE="ender2009"]

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

GazaAli

You can't SLi two different cards together. You can run one as a graphics processor and the other as a PhysX card, but you can't run them both as graphics processors.

My recommendation, considering your situation is this: Get the Q6700, get a GTS 250, and keep your motherboard. Unless you have enough money to go for the new Intel sockets, don't buy a new motherboard.

oh god this is ****ing stupid, ill keep on saying that i LIVE IN GAZA, NO ONLINE STORE CAN SHIP ANYTHING HERE. I PAY MY PARTS SMUGGLED, THATS WHY I HAVE VERY LIMITED CHOICES AND PAY WAAAY TOO MUCH FOR PARTS.GazaAli

oh god this is ****ing stupid, ill keep on saying that i LIVE IN GAZA, NO ONLINE STORE CAN SHIP ANYTHING HERE. I PAY MY PARTS SMUGGLED, THATS WHY I HAVE VERY LIMITED CHOICES AND PAY WAAAY TOO MUCH FOR PARTS.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="ender2009"]

Haha, nice Lord Rothen, I can't believe nobody caught that.... TP, you would have to be crazy to by at a retail store. And as for online stores, I think Newegg is the way to go.

If you were looking to save even more money for performance, AMD is a good way to go. Their Phenom II X4 965 is faster than the processor you're considering.

ravenguard90

You can't SLi two different cards together. You can run one as a graphics processor and the other as a PhysX card, but you can't run them both as graphics processors.

My recommendation, considering your situation is this: Get the Q6700, get a GTS 250, and keep your motherboard. Unless you have enough money to go for the new Intel sockets, don't buy a new motherboard.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]oh god this is ****ing stupid, ill keep on saying that i LIVE IN GAZA, NO ONLINE STORE CAN SHIP ANYTHING HERE. I PAY MY PARTS SMUGGLED, THATS WHY I HAVE VERY LIMITED CHOICES AND PAY WAAAY TOO MUCH FOR PARTS.clyde46

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]oh god this is ****ing stupid, ill keep on saying that i LIVE IN GAZA, NO ONLINE STORE CAN SHIP ANYTHING HERE. I PAY MY PARTS SMUGGLED, THATS WHY I HAVE VERY LIMITED CHOICES AND PAY WAAAY TOO MUCH FOR PARTS.04dcarraher

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]oh god this is ****ing stupid, ill keep on saying that i LIVE IN GAZA, NO ONLINE STORE CAN SHIP ANYTHING HERE. I PAY MY PARTS SMUGGLED, THATS WHY I HAVE VERY LIMITED CHOICES AND PAY WAAAY TOO MUCH FOR PARTS.GazaAli

thanks for offering help, its really appreciated. ill either forget about the whole thing and forget about gaming or manage to get better parts. but i guess the first one is the more possible choice.GazaAli

[QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

You can't SLi two different cards together. You can run one as a graphics processor and the other as a PhysX card, but you can't run them both as graphics processors.

My recommendation, considering your situation is this: Get the Q6700, get a GTS 250, and keep your motherboard. Unless you have enough money to go for the new Intel sockets, don't buy a new motherboard.

GazaAli

Well, I used this board for a friend's build, and it seemed pretty good for such a cheap board. It might work for what you're looking for.

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]thanks for offering help, its really appreciated. ill either forget about the whole thing and forget about gaming or manage to get better parts. but i guess the first one is the more possible choice.clyde46

9800GT is $200 and a 9800GT is $260, thats not worth the extra cost, See if they have 8800GT's or 8800GTS 512mb cheaper. because for the most part geforce 9's are 8's are the same. Ya upgrade one thing at a time, best thing you can do right now is get a better gpu, then motherboard then cpu,

thanks for offering help, its really appreciated. ill either forget about the whole thing and forget about gaming or manage to get better parts. but i guess the first one is the more possible choice.GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="ravenguard90"]

You can't SLi two different cards together. You can run one as a graphics processor and the other as a PhysX card, but you can't run them both as graphics processors.

My recommendation, considering your situation is this: Get the Q6700, get a GTS 250, and keep your motherboard. Unless you have enough money to go for the new Intel sockets, don't buy a new motherboard.

ravenguard90

Well, I used this board for a friend's build, and it seemed pretty good for such a cheap board. It might work for what you're looking for.

:O

I live in Orleans, Ottawa as well, and I've never actually been to this store, is it any good?

It's okay. They do price matching as well, but their inventory is a little dated. I still prefer the other stores around here (Canada Computers, PC Cyber), but if I feel the urge to buy something at a convenient location, it works :P

If PC parts are so expensive how about a console? Or are they very expensive as well?

If PC parts are so expensive how about a console? Or are they very expensive as well?

kraken2109

If you want to save some money you don't HAVE to get Nvidia,Ikavnieks

Well then the 9800 is your best bet. the reason people say that you are getting outdated hardware is because you are, but The C2Q still hold their own and are still good, nowhere near of being really "outdated". And a 9800GT is alot faster then your 8500gt, in terms of being 4x faster, so its still a nice upgrade. 04dcarraher

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well then the 9800 is your best bet. the reason people say that you are getting outdated hardware is because you are, but The C2Q still hold their own and are still good, nowhere near of being really "outdated". And a 9800GT is alot faster then your 8500gt, in terms of being 4x faster, so its still a nice upgrade. GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Well then the 9800 is your best bet. the reason people say that you are getting outdated hardware is because you are, but The C2Q still hold their own and are still good, nowhere near of being really "outdated". And a 9800GT is alot faster then your 8500gt, in terms of being 4x faster, so its still a nice upgrade. ferret-gamer

The 2180's are low-ended C2D, Well If you overclock that cpu to 2.7-3 ghz, make sure to get a aftermarket cpu cooler. In GAZA I dont know what they have for cpu coolers but look for something that has 4 heatpipes at least. GTS 250 is $60 more then the 9800GT right? over there. The 8800GTS(G92)512mb, 9800GTX, and GTS 250 are all about the same as far as performance goes, so see if you can get one of those cheaper then the GTS 250, because 60 is alittle to much for a 15% increase in speed over a 9800GT. 04dcarraher

with a good cpu cooler u can overclock q6600 to 3,0ghz, nv250 is waste of money stay with your 9800gt and with ok resolution u can play nearly all games on middle-high details NLahren

[QUOTE="NLahren"]with a good cpu cooler u can overclock q6600 to 3,0ghz, nv250 is waste of money stay with your 9800gt and with ok resolution u can play nearly all games on middle-high details GazaAli

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="NLahren"]with a good cpu cooler u can overclock q6600 to 3,0ghz, nv250 is waste of money stay with your 9800gt and with ok resolution u can play nearly all games on middle-high details ferret-gamer

1Gb versions will help with 1080, And if you can get a 1Gb version of a 9800GT or GTX that would be even a better deal.04dcarraher