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#1 Vfanek
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http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/molyneux-gets-son-begging-valve-for-hl3

I'm not actually that interested in the following episodes of Half Life but hell, this was adorable.

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I lol'd when Peter came in and said BUY FABLE 3, NOT HALF_LIFE 3. :lol:

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#3 mhofever
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Haha, Molyneux coming out and saying "Buy Fable 3, not Half Life 3!"

It'd be cool to see Valve's response, if they know about this.

You see, Valve? We're getting desperate for the next Half Life episode!

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#4 Treflis
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Oh Peter, if you're so anxiously awaiting Half-life episode 3 then just say so. No need to get your son to do it for you. =P
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#5 charmingcharlie
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Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

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That was pretty cool. I hope the guys at Valve see this.

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Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

charmingcharlie

Half-Life 2 is rated '15' in the UK (which is ridiculous enough anyway, let alone a 17 or 18 rating)

In any case, parents should have the final say on whether their kids have the mental maturity to play teen and adult rated games. If Peter Molyneux thinks his son is mature enough to play Half-Life 2, who are you to argue?

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#8 xboxmad12
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

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Half-Life 2 is rated '15' in the UK (which is ridiculous enough anyway, let alone a 17 or 18 rating)

In any case, parents should have the final say on whether their kids have the mental maturity to play teen and adult rated games. If Peter Molyneux thinks his son is mature enough to play Half-Life 2, who are you to argue?

I 100% agree with you on that.That is exactly how i look at it.

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#9 Vfanek
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Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

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I played GTA at the age of.. 7. I really hope you aren't serious. Talking about "mental maturity" of anyone doesn't make you seem smarter, nor does using four exclamation marks. Oh look at that, I can be ridiculous too! Then again GTA made me a serial killer, clearly. I guess you're right.
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Half-Life 2 is rated '15' in the UK (which is ridiculous enough anyway, let alone a 17 or 18 rating)

In any case, parents should have the final say on whether their kids have the mental maturity to play teen and adult rated games. If Peter Molyneux thinks his son is mature enough to play Half-Life 2, who are you to argue?

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Would you feel that way if Peter had his son go on camera and demand a sequel to a porn movie ? Now I agree parents should have final say on what their own children are exposed too entertainment wise as long as the parent is showing good judgement. I would say that allowing your 10 year old son to play a game that is rated M for Mature is not exactly showing good judgement though. If the kid had been around 13/14 it wouldn't have been an issue and yes I could understand letting a teenager play Mature games. However this kid is barely 10 and it is extremely bad judgement on the parents behalf to allow a 10 year old child access to adult entertainment.

However it is Peter's son and it is up to him, but it doesn't change the fact that going "public" with the fact that he seems to treat the rating and classifications of games with utter contempt is in extremely poor taste. If the people working in the software industry are willing to treat the game classification system with such contempt then how can we expect ordinary members of the public to abide by them ?

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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

Vfanek

I played GTA at the age of.. 7. I really hope you aren't serious. Talking about "mental maturity" of anyone doesn't make you seem smarter, nor does using four exclamation marks. Oh look at that, I can be ridiculous too! Then again GTA made me a serial killer, clearly. I guess you're right.

Quiet, I'm raising one now. Seroiusly those ratings are extremely uneven. I don't see anything in HL2 that should be above teen if that. They're basically for people who don't know what they are looking at. Of course I'm pretty open to what I'll let my son play and in the end it is up to the parent not the ESRB.

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#12 Velocitas8
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I would say that allowing your 10 year old son to play a game that is rated M for Mature is not exactly showing good judgement though.charmingcharlie

Kids see worse stuff than what's in Half-Life on broadcast television.

I think Mr. Molyneux knows what's suitable for HIS child better than you do. Get over yourself, please.

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Would you feel that way if Peter had his son go on camera and demand a sequel to a porn movie ? Now I agree parents should have final say on what their own children are exposed too entertainment wise as long as the parent is showing good judgement. I would say that allowing your 10 year old son to play a game that is rated M for Mature is not exactly showing good judgement though. If the kid had been around 13/14 it wouldn't have been an issue and yes I could understand letting a teenager play Mature games. However this kid is barely 10 and it is extremely bad judgement on the parents behalf to allow a 10 year old child access to adult entertainment.

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You sound like you should write for the Daily Mail.

I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.

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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]Half-Life 2 is rated '15' in the UK (which is ridiculous enough anyway, let alone a 17 or 18 rating)

In any case, parents should have the final say on whether their kids have the mental maturity to play teen and adult rated games. If Peter Molyneux thinks his son is mature enough to play Half-Life 2, who are you to argue?

charmingcharlie

Would you feel that way if Peter had his son go on camera and demand a sequel to a porn movie ? Now I agree parents should have final say on what their own children are exposed too entertainment wise as long as the parent is showing good judgement. I would say that allowing your 10 year old son to play a game that is rated M for Mature is not exactly showing good judgement though. If the kid had been around 13/14 it wouldn't have been an issue and yes I could understand letting a teenager play Mature games. However this kid is barely 10 and it is extremely bad judgement on the parents behalf to allow a 10 year old child access to adult entertainment.

However it is Peter's son and it is up to him, but it doesn't change the fact that going "public" with the fact that he seems to treat the rating and classifications of games with utter contempt is in extremely poor taste. If the people working in the software industry are willing to treat the game classification system with such contempt then how can we expect ordinary members of the public to abide by them ?

What point are you trying to make? The classification system IS a joke and should be treated as such. End of story.
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What's wrong with a kid playing Half Life 2? It doesn't feature any sexual content, nudity or vulgar.There are far worse games out there not applicable to kids. Valve games are never really that extreme. All it's about is whooping alien ass!

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I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.broken_bass_bin

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

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#17 Fr0st3d
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We should ALL make a video begging valve to release it already. But I think they are maybe working on a dx10 version of the source engine.

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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.charmingcharlie

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

How old are you? Just curious. Also (as if you're even 18... ) do you have children?

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I saw Aliens when I was 4 years old. It didn't affect me at all. In fact I grew up intelligent enough to not interfere with the parental decision of a man many times smarter than me.

I still have to perfect my English though.

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if Peter had his son go on camera and demand a sequel to a porn movie ?charmingcharlie
I'd lol.
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I lol'd when Peter came in and said BUY FABLE 3, NOT HALF_LIFE 3. :lol:

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I loled when hie said "who makes better games" and his son said NOO, Get away!!" :lol:
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

Vfanek
I played GTA at the age of.. 7.

That's disturbing.
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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.charmingcharlie

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

So tell us, what effects do you think playing video games before the suggested rating have on the kid playing them, hmm?

When I first played Starcraft, I had just turned 6, in theory I shouldn't have been able to play the game for another 10 years. Make me laugh about how I could be able to go out and zerg rush anyone I see around in the streets now that I'm 18.

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Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

charmingcharlie

The game is only a 15 in the UK.

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"I guess I can wait...*deep sigh*...for a few more years."

Adorable.

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If the people working in the software industry are willing to treat the game classification system with such contempt then how can we expect ordinary members of the public to abide by them ?charmingcharlie

The classification system (ESRB especially) should be treated with contempt. It's all just a bunch of bull**** anyway.

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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

broken_bass_bin

Half-Life 2 is rated '15' in the UK (which is ridiculous enough anyway, let alone a 17 or 18 rating)

In any case, parents should have the final say on whether their kids have the mental maturity to play teen and adult rated games. If Peter Molyneux thinks his son is mature enough to play Half-Life 2, who are you to argue?

[/QUOTE Amen!
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[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

Englando_IV
I played GTA at the age of.. 7.

That's disturbing.

It was highly enjoyable, not enjoyed a GTA game since GTA 2 actually.
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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]Half-Life 2 is rated '15' in the UK (which is ridiculous enough anyway, let alone a 17 or 18 rating)

In any case, parents should have the final say on whether their kids have the mental maturity to play teen and adult rated games. If Peter Molyneux thinks his son is mature enough to play Half-Life 2, who are you to argue?

charmingcharlie

Would you feel that way if Peter had his son go on camera and demand a sequel to a porn movie ? Now I agree parents should have final say on what their own children are exposed too entertainment wise as long as the parent is showing good judgement. I would say that allowing your 10 year old son to play a game that is rated M for Mature is not exactly showing good judgement though. If the kid had been around 13/14 it wouldn't have been an issue and yes I could understand letting a teenager play Mature games. However this kid is barely 10 and it is extremely bad judgement on the parents behalf to allow a 10 year old child access to adult entertainment.

However it is Peter's son and it is up to him, but it doesn't change the fact that going "public" with the fact that he seems to treat the rating and classifications of games with utter contempt is in extremely poor taste. If the people working in the software industry are willing to treat the game classification system with such contempt then how can we expect ordinary members of the public to abide by them ?

there is a difference in porn those are real pee pee's and boobies, and well Half life is jsut a game.

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#31 Hakkai007
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Meh I played Mortal Kombat when in first came out in arcades when I was around 10 or 11.

I guess I am going around ripping people's spines out of their back and screaming FATALITY!

Age and maturity don't always go together.

I've seen 10 year old kids who were more mature than some 20 somethings.

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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.charmingcharlie

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

I'm all for the Ratings and that they should be upheld, however if a parent decides that their child can play a certain game then that is their choice aslong as they take the resonsibility for it. You may not like it but that is just the way it is. Also how do you know that his kids isn't say 13 years old but looks younger then he really is? You're simply assuming his son is ten years old because you think so, you have no proof. I don't think children should play mature games, but all mature games aren't alike and while Half-life have more violence then Super Mario, who if you want to be really technical about it has violence towards animals, there are games out that the is far worse. Additionally if the rating of Half-life 2 is 15 years old in England then that is what the rating is there. I'm also pretty sure Peter Molyneux knows more about his kid and his mature nature then you.
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Gabe is busy.

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Very cute, I wonder if his son likes the Fable games his dad makes?

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[QUOTE="Treflis"]Oh Peter, if you're so anxiously awaiting Half-life episode 3 then just say so. No need to get your son to do it for you. =P

It was cute though lol. I'm not a Peter M. fan because Fable 2's huge disappointment but as a person, human being, father of a cool kid, I am a fan of him in that sense. Cool guy because he digs Half Life Episode 3. :D
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Gabe is busy.

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Hmm, that was funny, 'cause like Gabe is fat and that had a big fat guy in it. I get it.
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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.charmingcharlie

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

My parents let me watch the South Park movie when I was 8... I'm fine.
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[QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.scottahuch

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

My parents let me watch the South Park movie when I was 8... I'm fine.

And my parents let me play Mortal Kombat 2 when I was 7. I'm fine as well.
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Would you feel that way if Peter had his son go on camera and demand a sequel to a porn movie ? Now I agree parents should have final say on what their own children are exposed too entertainment wise as long as the parent is showing good judgement. I would say that allowing your 10 year old son to play a game that is rated M for Mature is not exactly showing good judgement though. If the kid had been around 13/14 it wouldn't have been an issue and yes I could understand letting a teenager play Mature games. However this kid is barely 10 and it is extremely bad judgement on the parents behalf to allow a 10 year old child access to adult entertainment.

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When I was 8-9 I found my dad old forgotten stash of porn mags, I immidiately told my younger brother and we spent the next couple of nights looking at them in curiosity then it layed dormant for some years up to the time I had the irrisistable need to touch myself, at which time the mags were used in the way it was meant to be ; so at 8 they were not much more than eyecandy... what if my dad made a video of me looking at them or requesting the newer version?!

Nature kick in then the need come, not early exposition brings the need earlier.

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Very cute, I wonder if his son likes the Fable games his dad makes?

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He was plugging his games, in a backhanded sort of way.:P

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I don't get the hypersensitivity.

When my future kid is 10 he/she will be playing Amnesia:Dark Descent 10 :twisted:

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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.charmingcharlie

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

Violence existed for as long as man existed. Children have been witness to far far worse than video games can ever accomplish. Shielding our children from violence is not going to change anything. Society is far too complex for something that simple to correct. Besides, I've played games with varying degrees of violent content since I was a kid. I don't have any violent urges at all, nor do I have aggressive urges.
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I LOLed and completely agree with the kid.
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[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="charmingcharlie"]

Hm Peter Molyneux gets his young son to beg Valve to release the next Half Life game a series that has a Mature rating. Yeah I can't see anything distasteful about this whatsoever :roll: . Now I appreciate that video game ratings are a "guide" for parents and they should use their best judgement but come on here this kid isn't even 10 and he is supposed to have the mental maturity to handle a game aimed at 17 year olds !!!!

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I played GTA at the age of.. 7.

That's disturbing.

I was that age when I played GTA 2. What is so disturbing about it? Age has nothing to do with being mature enough to play a game. What do you not understand about that?
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It's nice to see a game developer who's passionate about another company's games. :)

You would never see, say a car developer publicly claiming to be excited for another companies car.

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Its a funny request because Valve wont make HL3 for at least 10 years.... Perhaps he meant Ep3.
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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]I'll say it again - Peter Molyneux, who lives in the UK, is basing his judgement upon the UK rating of Half-Life 2 as '15'. Half-Life 2 is considered a teen game here, not a mature or adult game.charmingcharlie

Allowing a 10 year old to play a game rated at 15 is still bad judgement in my view, the ratings exist for a reason and it is clear to me from a lot of postings around the net that parents are completely and utterly ignoring the ratings system. Yes the ratings are "guidelines" and yes if the kid had been 13/14 it wouldn't be an issue, but this kid is barely TEN. If you are saying Peter Molyneux is using his judgement to allow a 10 year old to play a game that has a 15 certificate rating then Peter Molyneux has some pretty bad judgement as a parent.

Comparing such a game to a porn film is horrendously unbalanced - a porn film contains explicit sex acts not even legal on UK television and not available in standard media retail outlets, and are made specifically for the adult market no matter where you are in the world. Half-Life 2 contains the same level of "adult entertainment" that anyone can see in the UK simply by turning on the TV at 9:00pm.broken_bass_bin

Half Life contains explicit acts of violence, you can use a crow bar to bludgeon people to death, there is a great deal of emphasis on shooting and killing. In fact many things you see in Half Life you would never see on the Telly before the 9pm watershed. So yes I would say it is on par with allowing children access to pornography. It just seems this day if it is "sex" then it is unacceptable but it if is "violence" then it is perfectly acceptable. I am saying neither is acceptable.

I am not actually sure which is more shocking, the fact that Molyneux allows his child to have access to Mature content or the fact most people are going "meh who cares". Obivously I am in a minority here which is a shame and really doesn't bode well for the future. Anyway since my voice seems to be a lone one I will shut up about the issue, but I do find it frankly depressing that people are taking this attitude towards children being allowed access to violent games and being allowed to brag about it.

Sweetie, you really shouldn't be wasting time on the vidya forums. You have to make sure the kid's lunches are made before you drive them to soccer practice. Also, Don't take too long at your hair appointment. Your mother is coming to dinner tomorrow and I don't want to listen to her BS because you aren't there. P.S. Your OBGYN called. Apparently you can start using Yaz birth control because you are going into menopause. Love ya, babe. ~Tequila
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^ I lol'd
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Man those "omg the 10 year old playing the oh so violent half life game" posts, come on, jeezus...

When i was 9 years old i played duke nukem and the resident evil games and stuff, now those were some scary games.

I'm pretty normal, those games didn't screw me up. I'm attending university becoming a psychologist, so i'm okay in the edu compartment.

The worst thing what can happen is that the kid is getting a little scare, so what?!?!
In other countries kids are getting violently butcherd (or even better the 10 year olds are killing other people in such brutal ways your mind can't even fabricate = Africa) and that was the normal state of mind untill the last 150 years (death and real violence is everywhere ==> dark medieval times)
I'm not saying thats okay, just saying kids can cope with alot of stuff, more then some adults.

I study psychologie (almost masterd :) ) and i can honestly say this "over protecting our kids" mentality is much worse for your childrens personality's.
People are raising kids who are enormously narsistic, can't cope with critism or failure in any kind, developing fobia's at alarming rates (if you are constantly kept in a nice and stable environment and then you get released in the "real world" where nobody cares about your stabilty, it can cause alot of problems with late adolescents = panic disorders, depressions, ...)

So please... Let the kid chop some zombie heads okay? he will be able to relativate the violence, as fiction and unreal.

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#50 deactivated-5ee322a396e26
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he's promoting his own game using his kid, that's the most amazingly adorablest thing have ever seen in my life