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#1 NoctisCaelum52
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In Defense Of Treyarch

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#3 dakan45
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Meh, IW cod games> Treyarch cod games. Not that they suck, but not nearly as good.
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#4 artiedeadat40
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Not anymore, I'm sure that the next Treyarch game will have dedicated servers.

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#5 Frenzyd109
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they're just an average game developer, no one hates them... i think
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#6 F1_2004
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The first few paragraphs in the article mention Spider-Man 2 as "still considered by many to be the best movie-tie in game". lol :| Then it pretty much says that WaW was good, despite everyone saying it's not. OK if you say so mate. And then, "they're awesome"? Sounds like a fanboy blog tbh.
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#7 OoSuperMarioO
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In Defense Of Treyarch

"Treyarch made the Spider-Man games"

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lol... What is that suppose to even mean?

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#8 badtaker
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Not anymore, I'm sure that the next Treyarch game will have dedicated servers.

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What if Treyarch next COD did not have dedicated servers.:P
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#9 capthavic
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well hearing that they're the dev doesn't exactly fill me with confidence thats for sure

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#10 quijeros
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I don't hate them. Even though I didn't play Call of Duty 3, I thought that World at War was pretty good.

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#11 dakan45
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]The first few paragraphs in the article mention Spider-Man 2 as "still considered by many to be the best movie-tie in game". lol :| Then it pretty much says that WaW was good, despite everyone saying it's not. OK if you say so mate. And then, "they're awesome"? Sounds like a fanboy blog tbh.

Well that blog does not provide with any explanation that makes sense on why treyarch is that great.
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#12 Baranga
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Then it pretty much says that WaW was good, despite everyone saying it's not. F1_2004

If by everybody you mean the vocal minority that praised IW before Modern Warfare 2, then yes.

A comment from that site I agree with:

Too many idiots forever labeled them as crap for COD3, a POS they only had 8 months to make.

All these idiot haters would've loved WAW if it said IW on the box instead of Treyarch.

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#13 thusaha
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Gray Matter, before merged into Treyarch, made CoD: UO so I don't hate them.
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#14 -clippa-
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Since modern warfare 2, no. They are our only hope :D

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#15 RichardStallman
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No, they're better than Infinity Ward now, WaW was superior to both COD4 and MW2.
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#16 linkthewindow
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WAW was only slightly worse the MW, and is overall better then MW2. Never played CoD3. If their next game has dedicated servers, it will be win (and I love the idea of a cold war setting.)
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#17 warmaster670
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The first few paragraphs in the article mention Spider-Man 2 as "still considered by many to be the best movie-tie in game". lol :| Then it pretty much says that WaW was good, despite everyone saying it's not. OK if you say so mate. And then, "they're awesome"? Sounds like a fanboy blog tbh.F1_2004

Everyone says there not? is that why WaW got such good scores?

Meh, IW cod games> Treyarch cod games. Not that they suck, but not nearly as good.dakan45

Trey>>IW, at least treys willing to try new stuff, co-op, zombies, something thats not just russia/britain/US.

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#18 the_mitch28
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I love WaW and I never played CoD3, but fair effort if they only had 8 months.

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#19 Aslyum_Beast
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Never played WaW, but i did play COD3..... and omg, it was the worst ride i ever rode on. idc if MW2 doesn't have Dedicated servers, there is atleast something working there. IW>>>Treyarch according to me.

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#20 skrat_01
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They are far from bad. But far from great. They are a good developer, decent, though the games of recent that they have put out are uninspiring.
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#21 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Naa, they are an average dev, who got the unlucky task of standing in for IW every other year... I think WaW is better then the MW games, (they are pretty identical) but WaW has zombies :D

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#22 spiderman120988
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I've always liked Treyarch. I enjoyed their Spider-Man games and WaW was a great game despite its somewhat tired setting. Don't know why they always get the short end of the stick.
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#23 dakan45
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No, they're better than Infinity Ward now, WaW was superior to both COD4 and MW2.RichardStallman
I painfully dissagree, IW add ip some detail in ther games, WAW and cod3 lack that detail...perhaps if they took more time in development, things will be diffirent!!!
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#24 dakan45
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Trey>>IW, at least treys willing to try new stuff, co-op, zombies, something thats not just russia/britain/US.warmaster670

Just because they add a zombie level and dlcs that makes them better than IW? :D

Please, atleast IW took the game to modern era and did not make another WW2 game, see how your logic backfired?

Also IW>>>>>>>>Treyarch. IW adds more detail to their games. Most weapons in cod WAW had almost identical handlings, especially the pistols were like toys.

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#25 blade55555
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[QUOTE="warmaster670"]Trey>>IW, at least treys willing to try new stuff, co-op, zombies, something thats not just russia/britain/US.dakan45

Just because they add a zombie level and dlcs that makes them better than IW? :D

Please, atleast IW took the game to modern era and did not make another WW2 game, see how your logic backfired?

Also IW>>>>>>>>Treyarch. IW adds more detail to their games. Most weapons in cod WAW had almost identical handlings, especially the pistols were like toys.

Your such an IW fanboy. Tryarch WaW was better then mw2 just because they added more multiplayer features and what not unlike IW. Cod 4 > WaW > Mw2. Mw2 added like nothing new except "co-op" mode.
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#26 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="warmaster670"]Trey>>IW, at least treys willing to try new stuff, co-op, zombies, something thats not just russia/britain/US.blade55555

Just because they add a zombie level and dlcs that makes them better than IW? :D

Please, atleast IW took the game to modern era and did not make another WW2 game, see how your logic backfired?

Also IW>>>>>>>>Treyarch. IW adds more detail to their games. Most weapons in cod WAW had almost identical handlings, especially the pistols were like toys.

Your such an IW fanboy. Tryarch WaW was better then mw2 just because they added more multiplayer features and what not unlike IW. Cod 4 > WaW > Mw2. Mw2 added like nothing new except "co-op" mode.

Fanboy? Not at all.

I dont care about dedicated serves if the mp is crap ;)

Also MW2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>WAW both singleplayer and multiplayer was better.

Lets see with whcih multiplayer i have more fun? MW2 which has more detail mw2 which has better mp? MW2 I have more fun with mw2 than waw, you dont have any valid claims to prove that waw is better than mw2.

Also waw was made before mw2 anounced that it wont have dedicated servers;).

Also more and more games lack dedicated servers nowadays. I wond be suprised if treyarch makes a game with no dedicated servers.

But again, mw2 had so much stuff in it, i found waw pretty meh in every way. So without further delay, legitimately MW2>>>WAW Only good thing about waw was the zombies and that is all there is to it!!

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#27 NoctisCaelum52
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[QUOTE="RichardStallman"]No, they're better than Infinity Ward now, WaW was superior to both COD4 and MW2.dakan45
I painfully dissagree, IW add ip some detail in ther games, WAW and cod3 lack that detail...perhaps if they took more time in development, things will be diffirent!!!

Like the article says, " Activision treats them like the end of their rear. " Treyarch's Games could've been better if only Activision treats them like how they treat IW.

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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="RichardStallman"]No, they're better than Infinity Ward now, WaW was superior to both COD4 and MW2.NoctisCaelum52

I painfully dissagree, IW add ip some detail in ther games, WAW and cod3 lack that detail...perhaps if they took more time in development, things will be diffirent!!!

Like the article says, " Activision treats them like the end of their rear. " Treyarch's Games could've been better if only Activision treats them like how they treat IW.

True, also if they gave them some time to make their games,but thing is that still they are not as good a IW. But maybe thats gonna change now that Activision hires a third studio to make cod games.
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#29 NoctisCaelum52
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[QUOTE="NoctisCaelum52"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] I painfully dissagree, IW add ip some detail in ther games, WAW and cod3 lack that detail...perhaps if they took more time in development, things will be diffirent!!!dakan45

Like the article says, " Activision treats them like the end of their rear. " Treyarch's Games could've been better if only Activision treats them like how they treat IW.

True, also if they gave them some time to make their games,but thing is that still they are not as good a IW. But maybe thats gonna change now that Activision hires a third studio to make cod games.

Third Studio ? Who ?
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#30 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="NoctisCaelum52"]

Like the article says, " Activision treats them like the end of their rear. " Treyarch's Games could've been better if only Activision treats them like how they treat IW.

NoctisCaelum52

True, also if they gave them some time to make their games,but thing is that still they are not as good a IW. But maybe thats gonna change now that Activision hires a third studio to make cod games.

Third Studio ? Who ?

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=22327

http://gamerblips.dailyradar.com/article/new-activision-studio-has-a-name-sledgehammer-games/

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#31 NoctisCaelum52
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[QUOTE="NoctisCaelum52"][QUOTE="dakan45"] True, also if they gave them some time to make their games,but thing is that still they are not as good a IW. But maybe thats gonna change now that Activision hires a third studio to make cod games.dakan45

Third Studio ? Who ?

http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=22327

http://gamerblips.dailyradar.com/article/new-activision-studio-has-a-name-sledgehammer-games/

Seems like Activision's going to make Call of Duty a LONG series.
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#32 dakan45
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If you did not got tired already, then i suggest to keep your distance from them because they will hire more and more devs to make 1 cod game every year :lol: I only want a mw3 that will show a more futuristic warfare than mw2, and after that i am done with the series, since the trilogy will be completed.
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#33 NoctisCaelum52
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Soon I will make my own Gaming Company and crush Activision once and for all. JK :)

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#34 mo0ksi
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I liked World at War so I don't hate them. Hell, if their next CoD outing will have DS then I might like them more than IW :P
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#35 dakan45
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Soon I will make my own Gaming Company and crush Activision once and for all. JK :)

NoctisCaelum52

How you gonna do that? Are you gonna make COD games? :D because thats the only reason to do it since people dont seem to care for amazing graphics or nonlinear gamepaly and such.

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#36 UnknownSniper65
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Treyarch did a much better job of supporting the PC version of COD:WAW than IW did on both Modern Warfare games...

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#37 NoctisCaelum52
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[QUOTE="NoctisCaelum52"]

Soon I will make my own Gaming Company and crush Activision once and for all. JK :)

dakan45

How you gonna do that? Are you gonna make COD games? :D because thats the only reason to do it since people dont seem to care for amazing graphics or nonlinear gamepaly and such.

I'm not gonna make any COD Games.. But I'm gonna make the GREATEST FPS Game The World Has Ever Known.
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#38 darkmoney52
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Personally I like Treyarch a more than Infinity Ward. They kinda suck when it comes to multiplayer, but I'm not a fan of the versus modes in either game, and I had way more fun in the WaW campaign.

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#39 ProjectPat187
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I wont hate Treyarch as long as they make sure the next COD installment has dedicated servers
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="NoctisCaelum52"]

Soon I will make my own Gaming Company and crush Activision once and for all. JK :)

NoctisCaelum52

How you gonna do that? Are you gonna make COD games? :D because thats the only reason to do it since people dont seem to care for amazing graphics or nonlinear gamepaly and such.

I'm not gonna make any COD Games.. But I'm gonna make the GREATEST FPS Game The World Has Ever Known.

If you are reffering to "the best fps ever", well too late Ea is working on that!!:D

So according to them Moh Afghanistan will be the best fps ever.

I think its safe to say that it will be a modern warfare clone with more stuff or its just "EA Challenge everything!!" all over again.

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#41 dakan45
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Personally I like Treyarch a more than Infinity Ward. They kinda suck when it comes to multiplayer, but I'm not a fan of the versus modes in either game, and I had way more fun in the WaW campaign.

darkmoney52
Really? Singleplayer was the main reason i did not like waw, compaign felt too weak, especially in story and it had way more respawning enemies than cod4. There were times in the US compaign that i just sit therea and kill the millions of respawning enemies with my 32. machingeun waiting till they stop spawning so i can advance. Apart from that the weapons had very cheap and silimar sounds and were way too accurate, just if the developers did not care to make diffirent stats for the weapons and add recoil like cod2, and thats why i dont respect Treyarch as much as IW!!!
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#42 darkmoney52
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[QUOTE="darkmoney52"]

Personally I like Treyarch a more than Infinity Ward. They kinda suck when it comes to multiplayer, but I'm not a fan of the versus modes in either game, and I had way more fun in the WaW campaign.

dakan45
Really? Singleplayer was the main reason i did not like waw, compaign felt too weak, especially in story and it had way more respawning enemies than cod4. There were times in the US compaign that i just sit therea and kill the millions of respawning enemies with my 32. machingeun waiting till they stop spawning so i can advance. Apart from that the weapons had very cheap and silimar sounds and were way too accurate, just if the developers did not care to make diffirent stats for the weapons and add recoil like cod2, and thats why i dont respect Treyarch as much as IW!!!

To be honest, I'm just not a fan of the modern military stories, it all feels too Tom Clancy-ish for my tastes. That, and I'm easily won over by gore when it comes to shooters. Chasing down germans with an LMG was much more exciting for me than anything in the MW games.
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#43 PTMags
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I thought WAW was fine, the sp and mp are comparable to cod4. The only downside is the WW2 setting, it is a little played out.

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#44 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"]

Personally I like Treyarch a more than Infinity Ward. They kinda suck when it comes to multiplayer, but I'm not a fan of the versus modes in either game, and I had way more fun in the WaW campaign.

darkmoney52

Really? Singleplayer was the main reason i did not like waw, compaign felt too weak, especially in story and it had way more respawning enemies than cod4. There were times in the US compaign that i just sit therea and kill the millions of respawning enemies with my 32. machingeun waiting till they stop spawning so i can advance.. Apart from that the weapons had very cheap and silimar sounds and were way too accurate, just if the developers did not care to make diffirent stats for the weapons and add recoil like cod2, and thats why i dont respect Treyarch as much as IW!!!

To be honest, I'm just not a fan of the modern military stories, it all feels too Tom Clancy-ish for my tastes. That, and I'm easily won over by gore when it comes to shooters. Chasing down germans with an LMG was much more exciting for me than anything in the MW games.

Well i am more fan of modern than ww2, i am a fan of gore but the weapons felt like BB guns and not like ww2 weapons like cod2 for example, it felt like a mod too me

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[QUOTE="darkmoney52"][QUOTE="dakan45"] Really? Singleplayer was the main reason i did not like waw, compaign felt too weak, especially in story and it had way more respawning enemies than cod4. There were times in the US compaign that i just sit therea and kill the millions of respawning enemies with my 32. machingeun waiting till they stop spawning so i can advance.. Apart from that the weapons had very cheap and silimar sounds and were way too accurate, just if the developers did not care to make diffirent stats for the weapons and add recoil like cod2, and thats why i dont respect Treyarch as much as IW!!!dakan45

To be honest, I'm just not a fan of the modern military stories, it all feels too Tom Clancy-ish for my tastes. That, and I'm easily won over by gore when it comes to shooters. Chasing down germans with an LMG was much more exciting for me than anything in the MW games.

Well i am more fan of modern than ww2, i am a fan of gore but the weapons felt like BB guns and not like ww2 weapons like cod2 for example, it felt like a mod too me

I could see that. But I've never really thought of the CoD series as the place to go for loud powerful weapons, and I think the series is a little lacking in that respect regardless of the developer. Compare the guns in MW to Rainbow 6 for example.
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#46 RobertBowen
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I don't hate Treyarch. I quite like their games.

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#47 nimatoad2000
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cod world at war was bttr than cod 4 because of bigger maps and imo more attention to detail in the maps, there was also more cover and because of the bigger maps, there was less choke points that snipers / mg's could camp and control a map. cod 3 might have been bad, but world at war is bttr or just as good as cod4, and definately bttr than mod wf2 because of ded servers alone.
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"] To be honest, I'm just not a fan of the modern military stories, it all feels too Tom Clancy-ish for my tastes. That, and I'm easily won over by gore when it comes to shooters. Chasing down germans with an LMG was much more exciting for me than anything in the MW games.darkmoney52

Well i am more fan of modern than ww2, i am a fan of gore but the weapons felt like BB guns and not like ww2 weapons like cod2 for example, it felt like a mod too me

I could see that. But I've never really thought of the CoD series as the place to go for loud powerful weapons, and I think the series is a little lacking in that respect regardless of the developer. Compare the guns in MW to Rainbow 6 for example.

Well, cod4 weapons felt more "diffirent" one from each other, atleast compared to rainbow six vegas 2 which was more or less the same for most weapons.
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#49 andalore
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I dont see why Trayarch are bad at all, I liked WAW and also Spiderman 2 I loved the fact that all but one (WAW's Barrett) were Bolt Action and that you had to earn your scope, not to mention they made Die By the Sword which now that I look back seems remarckably like a Wii game. Most people I know say that WAW was a letdown to the COD games but personally i think that MW2 was a huge Letdown.

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I actually think treyarch made a few small improvements with WaW. For one thing they added gore so it didn't feel as much like a shooting gallery and i think maybe some better geometry and textures on the PC version. Cinematics and level design were still pretty bland though.