Deus Ex Human Revolution ROCKS!!!!

5 hrs in and all I got to say is WOW! This is how you follow up one of the best games ever. Haven't come across any issues with stability, descent frame rates even on my mediocre rig, gameplay is solid, and enemy AL is above average. I want to hear what everyone else has to say!slabber44

Still thinking of wether I should get it. During the video review Kevin VanOrd said the game has some AI issues like standing like idiots while you move to cover infront of them ... that is in my opinion a big problem. I've played the previous games and let's face it - stealth is the hardest way to play it. But if the AI is stupid enough to not notice me - I won't waste my cash of my gaming budget and aim for something else ...

P.S. Has anyone noticed something like that and how bad is the AI ?

Had no issues with the AI myself and I am usually picky with AI.

Only issue I can see so far that might bug people is the graphics are not the best around and the boss fights are not very good. Other then that the game is fantastic, great gameplay, I like the AI, good atmosphere and its just good ol fun to play.

The AI has caught me many times already, its far from dumb. Might not be the best ever but its far from the worst.

If you didnt mind the AI in the first Deus Ex I doubt youll have an issue with it here,

Gamespot might ahve given it 8.5/10 but didnt Deus Ex1 get near the same score? Thats one of the best games ever with a score below 9, just like the new one. I say make up your own mind if you like the game or if certain issues are there or not.

[QUOTE="slabber44"]5 hrs in and all I got to say is WOW! This is how you follow up one of the best games ever. Haven't come across any issues with stability, descent frame rates even on my mediocre rig, gameplay is solid, and enemy AL is above average. I want to hear what everyone else has to say!Code135

Still thinking of wether I should get it. During the video review Kevin VanOrd said the game has some AI issues like standing like idiots while you move to cover infront of them ... that is in my opinion a big problem. I've played the previous games and let's face it - stealth is the hardest way to play it. But if the AI is stupid enough to not notice me - I won't waste my cash of my gaming budget and aim for something else ...

P.S. Has anyone noticed something like that and how bad is the AI ?

The term "boss fight" is enough for me to say no.

Just curious...What difficulty are you guys playing on? So, I've heard that on "give me deus ex" difficulty the AI is absolutely incredible. I'm considering playing on that difficulty myself but I don't want to get my arse handed to me via "cheap difficulty spikes" such as super aiming and spamming

A big selling point on games for me is replayability. Does HR offer a incentive to play it more than once? IxX3xil3d0n3XxI

Yes, there are multiple endings and so amny differnt ways to go about doing all the missions.

Tons of replay value this game.

If im not mistake n IGN gave it 10/10 on replayability.

i like it alot too.

Can't decide between this and RO2. :cry:

I'm loving the game so far. Only two problems are the load times can be annoying and the game is not very dual core cpu friendly so I have to turn down a lot of options in an already not technically great game :( the art style is amazing however, just don't understand why it runs so poorly for me

Can't decide between this and RO2. :cry:

agpickle

[QUOTE="slabber44"]5 hrs in and all I got to say is WOW! This is how you follow up one of the best games ever. Haven't come across any issues with stability, descent frame rates even on my mediocre rig, gameplay is solid, and enemy AL is above average. I want to hear what everyone else has to say!Code135

Still thinking of wether I should get it. During the video review Kevin VanOrd said the game has some AI issues like standing like idiots while you move to cover infront of them ... that is in my opinion a big problem. I've played the previous games and let's face it - stealth is the hardest way to play it. But if the AI is stupid enough to not notice me - I won't waste my cash of my gaming budget and aim for something else ...

P.S. Has anyone noticed something like that and how bad is the AI ?

The term "boss fight" is enough for me to say no.

vfibsux

Can't decide between this and RO2. :cry:

agpickle

So far so good! Unfortunately the load times are HELL. I have 8gbs of ram and the game still takes at least 20-30 seconds to load.

The game is awsome but I have to agree the AI is pretty retarded at times. Just 5 minutes ago actually I walked into a room in plain sight and the guys inside freaked out " Did you hear that? " and started searching for me as I'm standing in front of them.

Sometimes the AI will just shoot like maniacs at a wall when they can't even see you. The AI seems to think they have a clear shot at you when theres a solid wall right in front of them =/

The game is awsome but I have to agree the AI is pretty retarded at times. Just 5 minutes ago actually I walked into a room in plain sight and the guys inside freaked out " Did you hear that? " and started searching for me as I'm standing in front of them.

Sometimes the AI will just shoot like maniacs at a wall when they can't even see you. The AI seems to think they have a clear shot at you when theres a solid wall right in front of them =/

Prexxus

[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]A big selling point on games for me is replayability. Does HR offer a incentive to play it more than once? kozzy1234

Yes, there are multiple endings and so amny differnt ways to go about doing all the missions.

Tons of replay value this game.

If im not mistake n IGN gave it 10/10 on replayability.

The thing about the replayability though is that the devs clearly favor a particular play-style. You get the most exp for non-lethal takedowns, and non-lethal tactics in general. Going through a mission using firearms and lethal tactics is going to net you far less experience. I'd be interested in seeing an end-game comparison and the differenence in exp/praxis points.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="IxX3xil3d0n3XxI"]A big selling point on games for me is replayability. Does HR offer a incentive to play it more than once? PTMags

Yes, there are multiple endings and so amny differnt ways to go about doing all the missions.

Tons of replay value this game.

If im not mistake n IGN gave it 10/10 on replayability.

The thing about the replayability though is that the devs clearly favor a particular play-style. You get the most exp for non-lethal takedowns, and non-lethal tactics in general. Going through a mission using firearms and lethal tactics is going to net you far less experience. I'd be interested in seeing an end-game comparison and the differenence in exp/praxis points.

I'm not sure what constitutes good AI, but I doubt it involves trying to shoot through a bathroom door, or having five highly trained military combat professionals just trying to pot-shot me from behind cover instead of throwing grenades, flanking, and flushing me out of cover. I also feel that using a sniper rifle indoors should bring EVERYONE out of the woodwork and on serious alert, but once I kill the people that had line of sight, everything goes back to normal.

Anyway, that being said.. the game is amazing. I haven't been so addicted to a single player game in a very long time.. its very worthy of the Deus Ex title. I hope the game's success pushes them to make a new game - same engine, but with much more refined mechanics, better augmentation system, less hacking focus.

[QUOTE="PTMags"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Yes, there are multiple endings and so amny differnt ways to go about doing all the missions.

Tons of replay value this game.

If im not mistake n IGN gave it 10/10 on replayability.

gameguy6700

The thing about the replayability though is that the devs clearly favor a particular play-style. You get the most exp for non-lethal takedowns, and non-lethal tactics in general. Going through a mission using firearms and lethal tactics is going to net you far less experience. I'd be interested in seeing an end-game comparison and the differenence in exp/praxis points.

I get that to an extent, but it's been possible for me so far to perform a non-lethal takedown on almost every single enemy i've encountered so far. With the right augs, I think it'd be possible to get through the entire game without firing a single shot but still taking out most enemies, using non-lethal takedowns. Like you said, if anything the lethal takedowns should give more exp.

That's really my only complaint with the game so far. Everything else is perfect. I've yet to run into any issues with the AI.

Having a blast with the game. Much like the original there's a few flaws and a few quirks here and there, but they are a small price to pay for a game that isn't afraid to try to create a game with this many options.

Just baught this game on Steam, im usually not interested in multiplatform games anymore because they usually just end up being consoley trash but iv heard a lot of good things about this and after reading this thread I decided to go ahead and buy it.

2 hours in and already loving it. I'm running at max settings and it looks freaking amazing :D

Update for the game just came out on steam, says there are a few fixes, main one being "Up to 50% faster loading times" and "Issue for some AMD/ATI hardware crash"

Update for the game just came out on steam, says there are a few fixes, main one being "Up to 50% faster loading times" and "Issue for some AMD/ATI hardware crash"

kozzy1234

Yessssssss

The loading times is my main gripe with the game. Seeing them reduced would make things a lot more enjoyable

Played a few hours of it and found it really boring. What bothers me most about the game so far is that it takes too long to get started, where Deus Ex started in a couple of minute. Hopefully the game will grow on me.KHAndAnime

Update for the game just came out on steam, says there are a few fixes, main one being "Up to 50% faster loading times" and "Issue for some AMD/ATI hardware crash"

kozzy1234

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Update for the game just came out on steam, says there are a few fixes, main one being "Up to 50% faster loading times" and "Issue for some AMD/ATI hardware crash"

gameguy6700

12-18 I was getting, but a few of my friends and a cousin of mine were getting 45 second loading they said. This looks to give a nice boost :)

I want to buy this game. To bad I have several others I want to play at the moment. I will end up getting it eventually.

I'm afraid I will have to hold out for a demo. My PC is 4 years old, and still performs very well with new games today. But I have heard nothing about performance of this game other than the long load times. So this concerns me with my pc. I will need to try before I buy.

I have literally never encountered an AI bug like any of you are talking about. As you can see in my sig, I actually thought the AI to be pretty damm good. Buy this game, it's awesome.ocstew

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Update for the game just came out on steam, says there are a few fixes, main one being "Up to 50% faster loading times" and "Issue for some AMD/ATI hardware crash"

gameguy6700

Oh dear, my GTX470 sits at 96 degrees while playing this... First thing I do tomorrow morning is get a new PC case - I planned to get one for months and this game pushed me over to finally do it.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Played a few hours of it and found it really boring. What bothers me most about the game so far is that it takes too long to get started, where Deus Ex started in a couple of minute. Hopefully the game will grow on me.gameguy6700

I can't describe how much awesome this game contains. I'm playing on the Deus Ex difficulty which means (by default at least) no crosshairs, the AI is awesome, and I die almost instantly. It is badass.

I think the XP balances between non lethal and lethal. If you're doing non lethal throughout the game, most likely you are skipping at least half the enemies, maybe more. So why not give out more xp? As a guns toting badass you'll be killing everybody!

The boss battles are rough, especially if you are specced for stealth, the first one in particular is really hard.

As far as replayability, multiple endings, totally different ways to spec yourself. Man this game is just awesome.

With the loading, I was put off at first, then got used to it. Then today I'm playing, then I quit for dinner and come back and I'm like wtf my loads are super fast now!

GO BUY THIS GAME! Game of the year, for me so far. Skyrim should be nervous!

[QUOTE="slabber44"]5 hrs in and all I got to say is WOW! This is how you follow up one of the best games ever. Haven't come across any issues with stability, descent frame rates even on my mediocre rig, gameplay is solid, and enemy AL is above average. I want to hear what everyone else has to say!Code135

Still thinking of wether I should get it. During the video review Kevin VanOrd said the game has some AI issues like standing like idiots while you move to cover infront of them ... that is in my opinion a big problem. I've played the previous games and let's face it - stealth is the hardest way to play it. But if the AI is stupid enough to not notice me - I won't waste my cash of my gaming budget and aim for something else ...

P.S. Has anyone noticed something like that and how bad is the AI ?

The term "boss fight" is enough for me to say no.

vfibsux

^ Exactly.. I'd even go as far to say that the boss fights in MGS4 were pretty lame. Great game overall, but they really felt like boss fights.. Now, boss battles in MGS3.. now THOSE were GOOD.

It's very strange how remarkably similar Deus Ex 1 and Deus Ex HR are, in regards to wen they launched:

• Both have relatively mediocre AI
• Both have mediocre graphics compared to other games
• Both have (based on reviews and player comments from playtroughs) mediocre gunplay.
• Both scored AA (Deus Ex scored 8.2, and Deus Ex HR scored 8.5)

And both stand infinitely above every con., because of their magnificient pros that propell the gamer to replay them forever.

It's very strange how remarkably similar Deus Ex 1 and Deus Ex HR are, in regards to wen they launched:

• Both have relatively mediocre AI
• Both have mediocre graphics compared to other games
• Both have (based on reviews and player comments from playtroughs) mediocre gunplay.
• Both scored AA (Deus Ex scored 8.2, and Deus Ex HR scored 8.5)

And both stand infinitely above every con., because of their magnificient pros that propell the gamer to replay them forever.

Lucianu

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

The term "boss fight" is enough for me to say no.

Advid-Gamer

I guess u play only crappy games...The "Boss Fight" is a term used in console gaming indrustry...but it speard in the PC gaming indrustry,along with all those crappy console ports...

The original deus ex didn't really have boss fights in the sense that term is understood these days. Anna, Gunther, etc. were all easily dispatched of, especially if you had the GEP gun, had maxed out your combat skills, had stocked plenty of energy cells, and had the health regen augmentation.

Nobody played the original for its stellar gunplay, graphics, or ai. All three were at best mediocre.

No, you played it and kept replaying it because of the incredible story and atmosphere and the great cast of characters.

A big selling point on games for me is replayability. Does HR offer a incentive to play it more than once? IxX3xil3d0n3XxI