Activision VP says COD4 is One of the Greatest Games Ever Created

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Officials from Activision have claimed that Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was the number one selling title of 2007. Combined global sales for the multiformat title is put at 7 million units, using a combination of NPD Group, Chart-Track and The GfK Group data...

"We're very excited about this achievement especially given so many competitive titles this year," said Will Kassoy, senior vice president of global brand management at Activision.

"Consumer and critics agree that Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is one of the best games ever created and further establishes Call of Duty as one of the premier brands in the industry. This ground-breaking game and franchise continue to establish new standards by which all other action games will be judged," he added.

It's not one of the best. In fact, it's nowhere nare being one of the best. It's a good game, but it's just CoD2 with a new coat of paint.mo0ksi

Cod4 and Cod2 are very different: modern combat vs. WW2; better gameplay for COD4 and better online support(the multiplayer is more fun for COD4)

Meh...

It's decent but easily forgotten.

I got about half way into CoD4 and then just... stopped playing it. It's not that I don't like it - I do like it. It's not that I don't have the time, or that I don't want to play...

...I just stopped.

Compared with CoD2, which I played through entirely the weekend I got it... CoD4 is just... well, Call of Duty. Four.

Am I the only one who finds it funny that Activision brags about a game they didn't lay a finger on as if it was theirs? They were 'only' the publishers. Heh._iMMuNiTy_

It is theirs. They own the franchise and they own Infinity Ward.

Anyway, what do you expect them to say? It sold like a bajillion copies. For them it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. In the real world, Call of Duty 4 is a great game, but another complete rehash. They changed the setting (kudos on that) and heightened the intensity, but the game still plays exactly like it did in 2003.

An Activision higher-up considers a game they published to be one of the best ever? You don't say.

[QUOTE="_iMMuNiTy_"]Am I the only one who finds it funny that Activision brags about a game they didn't lay a finger on as if it was theirs? They were 'only' the publishers. Heh.UpInFlames

It is theirs. They own the franchise and they own Infinity Ward.

CoD4 is going to be the mold for FPS games to come. Sure they could improve some things but if they were to release an expansion right now with more levels and perks etc...people would eat it up and they could make tons more money. Sure the maps could be larger and they could have stats like BF2, but when your playing you can actually see a enemies shadow around the corner if the lighting is right and also the game just feels alive explosions and things rolling around on the ground etc.AngelB1ack

I hope not! Extremely linear gameplay where picket fences block my path... The inability to open doors.. Broken AI that focuses on you the majority of the time instead of Team mates even when you are behind cover and they are not.. Barrels that must be bolted to the floor with 4 foot rods to make them unmovable while being made by adamnaitum or some unbreakable metal meaning its the ultimate cover.. Throwing of unrealistic amounts of guys at you.. Yeah sorry the sniper mission in the abadoned city in the end is rediculous.. Freaking throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..

I was playing CoD4 the other day I realised that the stat system is a ripoff of novalogics system. I didn't notice at first because I havn't played on in a while but when I did I laughed. Novas is 50 levels per game type plus ranks and achievement pins. Too be honest CoD4 online is just bf2 without vehicles.

It may have been said before but it's so true. Everyone in the world acted like we havn't seen a modern shooter before CoD4. It's just funny to me because compared to other online mp modern shooter CoD4 lacks. It's already infested with cheaters.

Is the greatest game Activision published but is not the greatest ever created.dayaccus007

Nah, that title belongs to Rome: Total War.

throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..AngelB1ack

There in lies the problem, the game was suppose to be psuedo realistic.. This is odvious that their broken AI and linear play they woul dhave to throw you something that large to make it seem challenging..

[QUOTE="AngelB1ack"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..sSubZerOo

There in lies the problem, the game was suppose to be psuedo realistic.. This is odvious that their broken AI and linear play they woul dhave to throw you something that large to make it seem challenging..

Your missing the point of COD 4. Its not about realism like Ghost Recon, Americas Army or Swat 4 etc. Its about placing you in a blockbuster war movie. They are going to restrict your path otherwise the tempo of the game would slow down - its supposed to be fast paced, thats why unless you keep moving the enemy keeps respawning.

I would say COD4 is def one of the greatest games ever. Apart from Deus Ex and Half life name a better FPS?

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[QUOTE="AngelB1ack"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..DJGOON

There in lies the problem, the game was suppose to be psuedo realistic.. This is odvious that their broken AI and linear play they woul dhave to throw you something that large to make it seem challenging..

Your missing the point of COD 4. Its not about realism like Ghost Recon, Americas Army or Swat 4 etc. Its about placing you in a blockbuster war movie. They are going to restrict your path otherwise the tempo of the game would slow down - its supposed to be fast paced, thats why unless you keep moving the enemy keeps respawning.

I would say COD4 is def one of the greatest games ever. Apart from Deus Ex and Half life name a better FPS?

Tempo of the game? You have to wait for people to open the door for you.. I honestly thought Crysis, Half-Life 2, Fears (not the expansion), Dark Forces 2, Aliens Vs Predator 2, even bioshock etc etc were superior single player fps's.. Though some of those are most definitely linear they do have some realistic barriers in most spots to them, instead of having a picket fence blocking your path..

I am sorry Crysis's singleplayer alone shows how inferior CoD4's is in all honesty.. Note I am not talking about multiplayer, its multiplayer is alright its nothign spectacular. To me CoD4 is just a extremely over-rated game.

[QUOTE="DJGOON"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="AngelB1ack"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..sSubZerOo

There in lies the problem, the game was suppose to be psuedo realistic.. This is odvious that their broken AI and linear play they woul dhave to throw you something that large to make it seem challenging..

Your missing the point of COD 4. Its not about realism like Ghost Recon, Americas Army or Swat 4 etc. Its about placing you in a blockbuster war movie. They are going to restrict your path otherwise the tempo of the game would slow down - its supposed to be fast paced, thats why unless you keep moving the enemy keeps respawning.

I would say COD4 is def one of the greatest games ever. Apart from Deus Ex and Half life name a better FPS?

Tempo of the game? You have to wait for people to open the door for you.. I honestly thought Crysis, Half-Life 2, Fears (not the expansion), Dark Forces 2, Aliens Vs Predator 2, even bioshock etc etc were superior single player fps's.. Though some of those are most definitely linear they do have some realistic barriers in most spots to them, instead of having a picket fence blocking your path..

I am sorry Crysis's singleplayer alone shows how inferior CoD4's is in all honesty.. Note I am not talking about multiplayer, its multiplayer is alright its nothign spectacular. To me CoD4 is just a extremely over-rated game.

Opening the door is cuz awesome Cpt Price is gonna go all Chuck Norris and clears the room ;). There are not that many doors you have to wait for.

I am sure most would agree that its a fast paced game and you do get overwhelmed at times which is a feeling other FPS don't give me. For that reason you don't really go exploring the terrain, thats not to say there is only one path for everything. Games like Half-Life 2, Bioshock were not exactly the open world type either.

Personally I played COD 4 before Crysis but I wish it was the other way around since I felt dissapointed with Crysis' effort compared to COD 4.

I could agree, it is one of the best games ever created. I've never put so many hours into one game before.Gnr_Helsing

Guess you never played Doom, Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Starcraft, Warcraft, Homeworld, Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Diablo 2, Baldurs Gate, KOTOR? Because all of those games that have become classic are what I like to define as great games. Each one of them brought something new to the table and did it well. Call of duty 4 was just another "I'll play it when I feel like it again" game to me. Sure, you invested the most time into that one game but people invest thousands of hours into WoW but you don't see them considering it is one of the best games ever.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="DJGOON"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="AngelB1ack"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]throwing look like 100+ guys at you.. Give me a break.. I thought this game went for realism..DJGOON

There in lies the problem, the game was suppose to be psuedo realistic.. This is odvious that their broken AI and linear play they woul dhave to throw you something that large to make it seem challenging..

Your missing the point of COD 4. Its not about realism like Ghost Recon, Americas Army or Swat 4 etc. Its about placing you in a blockbuster war movie. They are going to restrict your path otherwise the tempo of the game would slow down - its supposed to be fast paced, thats why unless you keep moving the enemy keeps respawning.

I would say COD4 is def one of the greatest games ever. Apart from Deus Ex and Half life name a better FPS?

Tempo of the game? You have to wait for people to open the door for you.. I honestly thought Crysis, Half-Life 2, Fears (not the expansion), Dark Forces 2, Aliens Vs Predator 2, even bioshock etc etc were superior single player fps's.. Though some of those are most definitely linear they do have some realistic barriers in most spots to them, instead of having a picket fence blocking your path..

I am sorry Crysis's singleplayer alone shows how inferior CoD4's is in all honesty.. Note I am not talking about multiplayer, its multiplayer is alright its nothign spectacular. To me CoD4 is just a extremely over-rated game.

Opening the door is cuz awesome Cpt Price is gonna go all Chuck Norris and clears the room ;). There are not that many doors you have to wait for.

I am sure most would agree that its a fast paced game and you do get overwhelmed at times which is a feeling other FPS don't give me.

There is a problem with that though. For one the game isn't that fast paced.. And secondly the game using simplistic code meaning if you do the logical thing and sit back and fight tons of soldiers will spawn.. If you rush in the infinite spawn is gone and no one fights you..

For that reason you don't really go exploring the terrain, thats not to say there is only one path for everything. Games like Half-Life 2, Bioshock were not exactly the open world type either.

I never argued that Half-Life 2 and Bioshock were open ended.. But they had REALISTIC barriers.. HEre you get caught behind a picket fence where you CAN'T get by.. Surely the designers would understand this..

Personally I played COD 4 before Crysis but I wish it was the other way around since I felt dissapointed with Crysis' effort compared to COD 4.

agree to disagree, I couldn't even finish the entirety of CoD4 it was just so damn simplistic in my eyes.. With poor AI, spawning enemies, barrels that don't move and act like tank armor, rediculous amounts of guys thrown at you, sickeningly linear.. To me in some of those missions I felt like I was the guy in that one Mike Vick commerical where the guy takes a amusement ride as the quaterback.

Games like Half-Life 2, Bioshock were not exactly the open world type either.DJGOON

As he said, they didn't use the lame methods of blocking your paths off, as in, putting obstructions that you can't get past that would never block your way in real life (picket fences, small rock piles, stuff like that). IW should have designed the levels so that there was none of that. Absolutely none, because it can break immersion on an acceptable level, and it just wreaks of laziness and unwillingness to think up a more feasible barrier. Not trying to bash IW as a whole, but they've had a tendency to do this from day one with CoD1, and linear level design that constantly isn't covered up well simply cannot be overlooked as at least a somewhat negative point.