Your thoughts on "poverty" in America today.

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#1 PrototypeTheKid
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My father and I were watching :lol: MSNBC (his choice, not mine) and he was stunned at how bad the economy had gotten and how they claimed that over 1 out of 5 people were now on some form of government assitance. He went on about how it's like the great depression.

I had to school him about politics and the media and how they particulary skew things like that to grab sympathy points for certain people in the country. He said that I was being inconsiderate and short sightened. So I challenged him if he could find similar articles stating that as fact.

He couldn't.

What do you all think? Do you think that poverty or the "po" are any worse of than say the 1930's?

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#2 DaJuicyMan
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I had to school him about politics and the media

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Finished reading here, got too annoyed.
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[QUOTE="PrototypeTheKid"]

I had to school him about politics and the media

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Finished reading here, got too annoyed.

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I wanna be a hobo but a clean and non crazy one. :beard:
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#6 jim_shorts
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Granted MSNBC isn't the best source for news, but there is some real poverty in America, especially in the Appalachians.

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I wanna be a hobo but a clean and non crazy one. :beard:KiIIyou
Will you require a sponge bath?
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[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="PrototypeTheKid"]

I had to school him about politics and the media

MrPraline
Finished reading here, got too annoyed.

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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]I wanna be a hobo but a clean and non crazy one. :beard:PrototypeTheKid
Will you require a sponge bath?

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#10 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Yup, the economy is still in the tank. Unemplyment isn't going down, the housing market isn't revving up.

Sure, there are a lot of people who are below the poverty line, but that is still a residual from the Great Recession. If the fiscal cliff can be avoid and money invested in education and infrastructure, the economy will continue to improve beyond this lukewarm recovery.

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#11 Zeviander
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Social assistance is a disgrace.
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mslsd you mean, rip hokie.
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#13 dave123321
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Do you have a job yet anyhow?
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#14 PrototypeTheKid
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Social assistance is a disgrace.Zeviander
I agree, it does nothing but further to prolong the current problem and thus creates what I refer to as "the poverty lifestyle." Someone in this thread mentioned that more money should be invested into the education department...I'm not so sure that it will provide any, if little effect.
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#15 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] Finished reading here, got too annoyed.ghoklebutter

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[QUOTE="PrototypeTheKid"]I agree, it does nothing but further to prolong the current problem and thus creates what I refer to as "the poverty lifestyle." Someone in this thread mentioned that more money should be invested into the education department...I'm not so sure that it will provide any, if little effect.

It probably would have little effect. Those wanting to learn would be able to do so outside of school, and those who wish to merely fulfill the status quo are already blissfully happy in their current state of numbed existence. What would probably be beneficial is ending government assistance programs and forcing those able to work to do so, and giving what money is left over to those literally unable to make a living.
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#17 Fightingfan
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I'm personally doing great financially. I can't wait till we get be back in the Clinton years, I'll probably be up a tax bracket.
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#18 GamingVengeance
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they got money for wars, but cant feed the poor
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#19 PrototypeTheKid
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they got money for wars, but cant feed the poorGamingVengeance
Poor has been feed since the 1970's. Too **** bad.

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#20 DaJuicyMan
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[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"]they got money for wars, but cant feed the poorPrototypeTheKid

Poor has been feed since the 1970's. Too **** bad.

Maybe we should invest more in education, just look at your grammar.
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#22 munkeypoo45
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the economy isnt great however it is recovering and slowly getting better than it was 3-4 years ago.

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#23 Audacitron
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My father and I were watching :lol: MSNBC (his choice, not mine) and he was stunned at how bad the economy had gotten and how they claimed that over 1 out of 5 people were now on some form of government assitance. He went on about how it's like the great depression.

I had to school him about politics and the media and how they particulary skew things like that to grab sympathy points for certain people in the country. He said that I was being inconsiderate and short sightened. So I challenged him if he could find similar articles stating that as fact.

PrototypeTheKid

The main difference between now and the Depression is that there actually is some government assistance. Take that away and it'll start to look a whole lot more like the Depression.

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#24 dave123321
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Do you have a job yet anyhow?dave123321
Don't remember if your situation changed
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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]coolbeans90

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#26 Alter_Echo
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lol @ people suggesting we need to throw more money at education in order to lower the amount of stupid people who become deadbeats in the future.

It's almost like you expect them to magically have a desire to learn because the school has more money.

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#27 Phaze-Two
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Social assistance is a disgrace.Zeviander

Yup, so is the ridiculously high income inequality in the USA.

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#28 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Social assistance is a disgrace.PrototypeTheKid
I agree, it does nothing but further to prolong the current problem and thus creates what I refer to as "the poverty lifestyle." Someone in this thread mentioned that more money should be invested into the education department...I'm not so sure that it will provide any, if little effect.

What do you think we should do about our relatively poor education system then? Do you think its a problem?

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[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"] Finished reading here, got too annoyed.

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#30 GreySeal9
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My opinion is that the TC would have more money if he got off his ass and obtained a job.

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#31 Diablo-B
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Those 1 out of 5 numbers are misleading since most of the welfare that the gov't gives out is social security and health care
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#32 YoshiYogurt
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LOL @ young libertarians and Republicans "Social assistance is a disgrace" "Get a job" "Pick yourself up by the bootstraps" Just wait until you get out into the real world where you can't mooch off your successful parents anymore...
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#33 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]LOL @ young libertarians and Republicans "Social assistance is a disgrace" "Get a job" "Pick yourself up by the bootstraps" Just wait until you get out into the real world where you can't mooch off your successful parents anymore...

You can mooch off of the success of your parents regardless of age, look at most celebrities.
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#34 Diablo-B
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I never understood the thinking that poor people are poor because they want to be because poverty is an easy life style. In our country it takes money to make money. The more you have is the more you can make. But if you dont have money then you are kinda screwed.
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Poor people in america can start things like TLC's "Extreme Couponing"
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I had to school him about politics and the media and how they particulary skew things like that to grab sympathy points for certain people in the country.PrototypeTheKid
You sound like my idiot friend. Anything given to you that you don't agree with is skewed or just a flat out lie in some conspiracy to help the Democrats.
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they got money for wars, but cant feed the poorGamingVengeance
send all the poor to war, problem solved.
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coolbeans90
Who knew poor decisions could have negative effects. Sh1tty isn't it. Saying that not to bash you, but I can relate to the life you've had.
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#41 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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Obama just needs to blame the guy in charge for the last 4 years.

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Just wait until you get out into the real world where you can't mooch off your successful parents anymore... YoshiYogurt
Been doing just that for the past three-odd years. Shows what you know.
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lol @ people suggesting we need to throw more money at education in order to lower the amount of stupid people who become deadbeats in the future.

It's almost like you expect them to magically have a desire to learn because the school has more money.

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More money isn't going to solve the problem magically, it's what the money is spent on. Higher wages for better teachers with Masters degrees who have access to the best equipment and latest textbooks. Right now we pay teachers a crap wage to teach class sizes way too large, who frequently have to dip into their own pockets for supplies. That and teachers unions are so protective of their own that it's impossible to get rid of crap teachers who aren't doing a good enough job.
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I'm currently participating in a local charity which provides basic staples to children in our town over the weekend because their parents can't afford to feed them. These "we should end assistance because America's impoverished aren't really impoverished" statements make me sick.
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#46 bigfoot2045
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The US is bascially the world's only successful third world country. I would describe it as a few islands of fabulous wealth surrounded by a sea of poverty and misery. We're very good at keeping our poor ignorant and complacent so they don't demand change. Case in point would be all the poor dumb rednecks who are terrified at the prospect of anything resembling socialized medicine even though they would be the ones who would benefit most from it. Compared to real developed first world countries, like those in Western Europe for instance, the quality of living for most people in the US dreadful. We don't even have universal healthcare or a liveable minimum wage. There's no reason people should have to struggle as much as they do in the US. The whole socioeconomic system here is rigged in favor of the ultra rich.

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#47 BossPerson
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Social assistance is a disgrace.Zeviander
You mean it's existence is a disgrace? Or its effectiveness is a disgrace?
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#48 JohnF111
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Poverty in USA? :lol: You mean those fat single mothers who run around receiving handfuls of money whilst at the same time wearing diamonds and gold? Gimme a break...
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#49 JohnF111
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The US is bascially the world's only successful third world country. I would describe it as a few islands of fabulous wealth surrounded by a sea of poverty and misery.bigfoot2045

Welcome to the world as it's always been for thousands of years.

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#50 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Poverty in USA? :lol: You mean those fat single mothers who run around receiving handfuls of money whilst at the same time wearing diamonds and gold? Gimme a break...

Yes. All of America's poor are in fact single mothers clad in diamonds and gold. You seem like a reasonable and intelligent person.