You won't believe what the Bible ACTUALLY says about Marriage..............

no, that's pretty much common knowledge about the incest and stuff.

At least she puts it in context.

Just because something happens in the Bible does not mean we are to go and do likewise. Some aspects of Scripture are simply descriptive and not prescriptive. mindstorm

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Just because something happens in the Bible does not mean we are to go and do likewise. Some aspects of Scripture are simply descriptive and not prescriptive. junglist101

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Just because something happens in the Bible does not mean we are to go and do likewise. Some aspects of Scripture are simply descriptive and not prescriptive. mindstorm

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]And how exactly are we supposed to differentiate between the two?

junglist101

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Imperative statements usually help.

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

LJS9502_basic

Pretty much all Christians know about all that stuff.

very little of the bible is useful in this day and age, some of it is even detrimental to society.

Pretty much all Christians know about all that stuff.

cain006

[QUOTE="cain006"]

Pretty much all Christians know about all that stuff.

trasherhead

[QUOTE="cain006"]

Pretty much all Christians know about all that stuff.

trasherhead

Did I just walk into another anti religion thread?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="junglist101"]And how exactly are we supposed to differentiate between the two?

junglist101

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

In a certain sense there are occasions when the rules prescribed to the nation of Israel are in place either because of their failing to live up to previous codes of conduct or because a ritual is in place that is designed to show something greater. Take for example the laws regarding animal sacrifice. They were in place for the purpose of showing the people their need for a greater sacrifice - Jesus. As such, this one such type of law is in place for a particular people, time, and place.

Other laws, for instance, are laws not of ritual or circumstance but are more universal. Jesus, for instance, states that the summary of the Old Testament law (especially that of moral law) can be summarized as imperatives to love God and love our neighbor. As such, those laws which directly relate to these two conditions are still to be in place.

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Imperative statements usually help.

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

mindstorm

In a certain sense there are occasions when the rules prescribed to the nation of Israel are in place either because of their failing to live up to previous codes of conduct or because a ritual is in place that is designed to show something greater. Take for example the laws regarding animal sacrifice. They were in place for the purpose of showing the people their need for a greater sacrifice - Jesus. As such, this one such type of law is in place for a particular people, time, and place.

Other laws, for instance, are laws not of ritual or circumstance but are more universal. Jesus, for instance, states that the summary of the Old Testament law (especially that of moral law) can be summarized as imperatives to love God and love our neighbor. As such, those laws which directly relate to these two conditions are still to be in place.

I think the difference is the basic tenants parents have their kids live by do not change, whereas the differences in the old testament and the new testament are quite stark. It's not a matter of a later bed time or curfew...or the addition of new responsibility. 

[QUOTE="junglist101"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Imperative statements usually help.

In other words, if the Bible says something occurred then this does not necessitate that we do it as well. However, if the Bible says to do something then we are to do it. The difference would be the story of Abraham having a child with his servant (descriptive) in comparison to Paul telling husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church (prescriptive).

I will say too that I am oversimplifying certain aspects of this.  For example, what of all the imperative statements in the Old Testament? Are we to follow all of them?  I would say not.  Some imperatives are specific to a time, place, and people while others are more universal.

mindstorm

In a certain sense there are occasions when the rules prescribed to the nation of Israel are in place either because of their failing to live up to previous codes of conduct or because a ritual is in place that is designed to show something greater. Take for example the laws regarding animal sacrifice. They were in place for the purpose of showing the people their need for a greater sacrifice - Jesus. As such, this one such type of law is in place for a particular people, time, and place.

Other laws, for instance, are laws not of ritual or circumstance but are more universal. Jesus, for instance, states that the summary of the Old Testament law (especially that of moral law) can be summarized as imperatives to love God and love our neighbor. As such, those laws which directly relate to these two conditions are still to be in place.

where the hell does that come from because it is pretty obvious that there are major character changes between the old testament god  and  the new testament god.

what i think is you guys just believe anything  that is convenient  to believe and ignore any evidence that challenges that belief.

nothing could highlight how silly your interpretations of the bible are than "god does not change."

anyway as far as the topic goes the bible  is full of silly crap that people don't do because it is inconvenient, like marrying my sister-in-law if something happens to my brother.

[QUOTE="trasherhead"][QUOTE="cain006"]

Pretty much all Christians know about all that stuff.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]Just because something happens in the Bible does not mean we are to go and do likewise. Some aspects of Scripture are simply descriptive and not prescriptive. junglist101

[QUOTE="trasherhead"][QUOTE="cain006"]

Pretty much all Christians know about all that stuff.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="junglist101"]I think the problem comes in when we decide which things are imperative and which things are not.  God is everlasting, no beginning and no end, he does not change.  Yet it is baffling to me that a some point in time he would deem certain acts acceptable just because of the context.  

junglist101

classic passive agressive apologetics statement from LJ :P

Lol another misrepresentation of the bible by some unbeliever I assume. I'm not suprised.GameGuy642003

Lol another misrepresentation of the bible by some unbeliever I assume. I'm not suprised.GameGuy642003

If only believers actually read their own book, they might learn something

hes only 13 years old, and already started a religion thread, whos a big boy? WHOS A BIG BOY!? YES YOU ARE! YES YOU ARE!!JustSignedUp