Would you rather have lived in Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia?

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#1 gamerguru100
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Would you rather have lived in Nazi Germany or Stalin's Russia?

I'll go with Nazi Germany...what the heck.:P

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#2 Toriko42
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Nazi Germany, Hitler wasn't killing his own people in massive droves after all...Well not directly...Unless you're Jewish or Homosexual or not Aryan
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#3 optiow
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Interesting question, and to be honest I would say Nazi Germany. I have always respected the Germans in both world wars, and I would have loved to fight with the Germans on the Oder etc etc. ~And yes I am communist, but I would never fight under Stalin.
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#4 clayron
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I'd likely be dead in both so it doesn't matter to me.
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#5 gamerguru100
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I'd likely be dead in both so it doesn't matter to me.clayron
Wait, you're African American, correct? You wouldn't be killed under Stalin's communist rule because everyone is treated equally in a communist state.
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#6 optiow
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Wait, you're African American, correct? You wouldn't be killed under Stalin's communist rule because everyone is treated equally in a communist state. gamerguru100
Stalin's state was a hidden dictatorship, not communism.
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#7 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]I'd likely be dead in both so it doesn't matter to me.gamerguru100
Wait, you're African American, correct? You wouldn't be killed under Stalin's communist rule because everyone is treated equally in a communist state.

Correct me if I am wrong, but under Stalin my race isn't the issue...its the fact that I am alive that would bother him...
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#8 RAMRODtheMASTER
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The chance of getting dead in Nazi Germany is lower than that of Stalin's Russia so I'll have to go with Germany. Don't get me wrong, I have a great deal of respect for Russia in WWII but Stalin was a mean bastard, not saying Hitler wasn't, but Hitler was nasty to certain groups, Stalin was nasty to everyone.
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#9 Palantas
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Yikes, that's a tough one. As a male of service age, I don't have a great chance of living through either one of those. I guess I'd go with Germany, but try to surrender to the Americans.

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#10 ATLBIinger
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Nazi Germany because they were really technologically superior and I'm not sure living under stalin is great.

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#12 optiow
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Yikes, that's a tough one. As a male of service age, I don't have a great chance of living through either one of those. I guess I'd go with Germany, but try to surrender to the Americans.Palantas
Definitely. I would rather die than surrender to Russia.
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#13 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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Nazi Germany. It'd give me an excuse to learn German.
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#14 Cube_of_MooN
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I suppose Nazi Germany. I'm not Jewish, so I wouldn't be sent away to die, where in Stalin's Russia, I may have had a higher chance of doing something to get myself killed. And even if I were drafted into the Nazi military, the casualty rate was not as high as it was for the Soviet army, so I suppose I'd have a better chance of living through the war.

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#15 muller39
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Nazi Germany because with my luck I would be given ammo instead of a gun in the russian army.

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#16 dissonantblack
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nazi Germany. Never ever would i want to live in a communist country. Especially with that monster Stalin.

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#17 Palantas
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And even if I were drafted into the Nazi military, the casualty rate was not as high as it was for the Soviet army...

Cube_of_MooN

You're probably correct about this. I'm going to run some numbers...

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#18 Juggernaut140
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nazi Germany. Never ever would i want to live in a communist country. Especially with that monster Stalin.

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Pretty much
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#19 black_cat19
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I'd go with Nazi Germany. I think I'd have better chances of survival there since I'm not jewish, and I would try to flee the country to neutral ground before getting drafted into the military.

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#20 clayron
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Damn my ethnicity, getting me killed in time periods and countries I was never a part of. At least all of you could reasonably get by. *becomes a bitter man*
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#21 Palantas
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]

And even if I were drafted into the Nazi military, the casualty rate was not as high as it was for the Soviet army...

I

You're probably correct about this. I'm going to run some numbers...

If you look at the Wiki article...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_2_casualties#Human_losses_by_country

You had a 14% chance of dying in the Soviet Union, and a 10% chance of dying in Germany. Now, that's for everyone. Military servicemembers would have a greater chance of dying.

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#22 optiow
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And even if I were drafted into the Nazi military, the casualty rate was not as high as it was for the Soviet army, so I suppose I'd have a better chance of living through the war.Cube_of_MooN
It depends. If you were on the Eastern front you were pretty much dead, but on the western front you had a good chance of survival.
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#23 Palantas
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I'd go with Nazi Germany. I think I'd have better chances of survival there since I'm not jewish, and I would try to flee the country to neutral ground before getting drafted into the military.

black_cat19

Well yeah, if you knew what was coming, Germany all the way. You'd have more money (high per capita income) and fewer restrictions on travel.

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#24 Palantas
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It depends. If you were on the Eastern front you were pretty much dead, but on the western front you had a good chance of survival.optiow

I'd be interested in seeing those numbers, unfortunately, that might involve real research instead of just Wiki-ing it up.

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#25 Cube_of_MooN
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]And even if I were drafted into the Nazi military, the casualty rate was not as high as it was for the Soviet army, so I suppose I'd have a better chance of living through the war.optiow
It depends. If you were on the Eastern front you were pretty much dead, but on the western front you had a good chance of survival.

I'd take 50/50 odds over 100% odds of being on the Eastern Front.
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#26 optiow
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I'd go with Nazi Germany. I think I'd have better chances of survival there since I'm not jewish, and I would try to flee the country to neutral ground before getting drafted into the military.black_cat19
But most of europe was taken over by Germany, and many from those countries were conscripted into the German military.
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#27 rockguy92
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I guess Germany.
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#28 optiow
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I'd be interested in seeing those numbers, unfortunately, that might involve real research instead of just Wiki-ing it up.Palantas
I don't know numbers, but I have researched it and most Germans ended up dead on the Eastern front, either from being taken prisoner or combat. Because those divisons were hardly ever pulled out, and many fought there from 1941 to 1945 without breaks.
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#29 Ace6301
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I suppose Nazi Germany. I'm not Jewish and don't look like someone of Slavic descent (even though I am) so I think I would be alright on that part. I'm reasonably tall and blond so there's some points there. Either way though I would be serving in the army since I'm 20 and able bodied. At least in the German army you were better fed and equipped than the Red Army...
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]I'd be interested in seeing those numbers, unfortunately, that might involve real research instead of just Wiki-ing it up.optiow
I don't know numbers, but I have researched it and most Germans ended up dead on the Eastern front, either from being taken prisoner or combat. Because those divisons were hardly ever pulled out, and many fought there from 1941 to 1945 without breaks.

Don't forget about the weather conditions as well since they were not prepared for the freezing winter of Russia.
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#31 ThePlothole
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Well I'm Jewish, so... neither. :?

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#32 optiow
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[QUOTE="muller39"] Don't forget about the weather conditions as well since they were not prepared for the freezing winter of Russia.

Very true. I had forgotten about that. ~Also because the Russians attacked in later years in numbers, and so eventually your positions were overrun. And that equals death.
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#33 GazaAli
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Nazi Germany. me and Hitler would have gotten along well.
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#34 tocool340
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Nazi Germany without a second thought. Though I'm not actually sure what they did to black people during the place and era...
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#35 Vesica_Prime
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If I was what Hitler described as the 'Aryan' race, I'd probably go with Nazi Germany to be honest.

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#36 Palantas
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[QUOTE="muller39"]

Don't forget about the weather conditions as well since they were not prepared for the freezing winter of Russia.

optiow

Very true. I had forgotten about that.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm thinking all major wars up to Vietnam had more casualties from the environment (basically, disease) than from battlefield action.

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#37 metallica_fan42
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In all honesty, Nazi Germany.
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#38 YoJim8obaJoe
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Nazi Germany,highly efficient and had the best unifroms :)

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#39 SunofVich
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Seriously, Russia. Its quite simple to stay alive in Russia during Stalins reign. You just don't ever mention his name.

And Stalin may have been as much of a butcher as Hitler but Stalin never did scientific experiments of people. Or gave soap made out of human fat to the inmates to wash with or gas people. No they just died from labor which is far better then dying from starvation.

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#40 F1_2004
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Nazi Germany by far. For a Christian white guy, Nazi Germany would be infinitely better than the craphole that was Stalin's USSR
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#41 weezyfb
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i would take russia
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#42 lordreaven
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Can i vote for Feudel japan :D

but i'd guess germany casue i love teh german tanks. *Jumps into Sturmtiger* what city block you want flattend first?

Note: i love blowing stuff up, so if your offended by my comment heads up.

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#43 StripTheSoul
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Nazi Germany. I wouldn't be harassed, but I wouldn't be part of the master race. I could just go about my own thing, throw in a few anti-semite calls to keep Gestapo happy and life will be fine until Russia gets to Berlin, in which case I will flee to England.

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#44 lordreaven
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Oh, and some else said. GERMAN WOMEN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RUSSIAN WOMEN. Sorry but i've had only good experiances with the german ladies and mostly bad with ruskies.

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#45 dante5395
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since i'm not jewish probably german i mean he loved his people (unlike stalin in some way) exept if they were jewish or homosexual. But in the end everyone fought at berlin EVERYONE.

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#46 DEVILinIRON
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Seriously, Russia. Its quite simple to stay alive in Russia during Stalins reign. You just don't ever mention his name.

And Stalin may have been as much of a butcher as Hitler but Stalin never did scientific experiments of people. Or gave soap made out of human fat to the inmates to wash with or gas people. No they just died from labor which is far better then dying from starvation.

SunofVich
I'm not a history buff. But wasn't there a lot of starvation going on in Russia at the time? My choice is neither.
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#47 locopatho
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Nazis please. White, male, Christian, Irish, tall, reasonably fit :P Yup Hitler would have loved me :D
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#48 hungry_pirate
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Nazi Germany without a second thought. Though I'm not actually sure what they did to black people during the place and era...tocool340
LOl they thought black people were even worse then jewish people. So don't think you would've had a quality life. Being black in that period it's pretty much garanteed that you will have a hard life.
As i'm half black and white with a jewish mother I would be ****ed in germany so I guess i'll take my chances in russia.(I think I would die pretty fast there too).

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#49 Tangmashi
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I'd probably have it much easier under Nazi Germany, but due to mysemiticlooks I'd probably have to change my name to sound more germanic and make sure I carry some indentification card with me clarifying that I wasn't jewish.

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[QUOTE="clayron"]I'd likely be dead in both so it doesn't matter to me.gamerguru100
Wait, you're African American, correct? You wouldn't be killed under Stalin's communist rule because everyone is treated equally in a communist state.

my grandfathers whole family was purged by stalin, his mother father and three brothers were all killed.