Why do some people who eat fish call themselves vegetarian?

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#1 deactivated-5df4e79c309ad
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It bugs me and other true vegetarians when people who eat fish call themselves vegetarian. Fish has never been part of a vegetarian diet. The correct word for a person who abstains from meat and poltury, but still eats fish in addition to a plant-based diet, is a pescetarian.
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#2 muthsera666
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I've wondered the same thing for a while.
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#3 DeeJayInphinity
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Cool. Thanks for the info. Pescetarian. That's a diet I can stick to.
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#4 dmc333
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I'm a post-modern vegetarian. it's the new "hip" thing to do. You should try it.
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#5 muthsera666
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I'm a post-modern vegetarian. it's the new "hip" thing to do. You should try it.dmc333
I'm totally oblivious to the post-modern movements. Is this a legitimate fad, or just a joke I didn't get?
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#6 zakkro
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as meat.
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#7 FalcoLX
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A day too late for me too ask a friend of mine. I just came home for the semester and he's moving. Tough break.
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#8 KrotchLord
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Pescatarians are hypocrites, fashions aside. They are no better than lacto or lacto-ovo vegetarians.
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[QUOTE="dmc333"]I'm a post-modern vegetarian. it's the new "hip" thing to do. You should try it.muthsera666
I'm totally oblivious to the post-modern movements. Is this a legitimate fad, or just a joke I didn't get?

I eat meat, ironically.

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#10 CreepingDeath_
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It's easier to say "I'm a vegetarian" than "The only food I eat that came from a living creature is fish."
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#11 muthsera666
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as meat. zakkro
Why not? It is the flesh of an animal that the person would be consuming....
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="dmc333"]I'm a post-modern vegetarian. it's the new "hip" thing to do. You should try it.dmc333

I'm totally oblivious to the post-modern movements. Is this a legitimate fad, or just a joke I didn't get?

I eat meat ironically.

I eat meat with a fork.
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#13 The_Solid
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I eat everything,and you should really eat what you wanna eat.
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#14 vlin1108
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Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.
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#15 Neon-Tiger
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Because they are liars.
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#16 zakkro
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[QUOTE="zakkro"]I'm pretty sure it doesn't count as meat. muthsera666
Why not? It is the flesh of an animal that the person would be consuming....

Pfft, don't ask me, I'm not a vegetarian. >_>
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#17 KrotchLord
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="dmc333"]I'm a post-modern vegetarian. it's the new "hip" thing to do. You should try it.dmc333

I'm totally oblivious to the post-modern movements. Is this a legitimate fad, or just a joke I didn't get?

I eat meat, ironically.

You eat meat "ironically"...you are a confused kid that has not yet identified your true values.
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#18 muthsera666
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Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.vlin1108
What relevance does that have?
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#19 sAndroid17
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haha poser vegetarians :P
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#20 Ace6301
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Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.vlin1108
But...So do cows...
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#21 dmc333
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[QUOTE="vlin1108"]Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.muthsera666
What relevance does that have?

That they eat plankton.

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#22 MrGeezer
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Because in the words of Kurt Cobain, "It's okay to eat fish because they don't have any feelings."
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#23 vlin1108
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[QUOTE="vlin1108"]Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.muthsera666
What relevance does that have?

You eat the fish not because of its meat, but because of the various plants the fish ate.

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#24 deactivated-5df4e79c309ad
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It's easier to say "I'm a vegetarian" than "The only food I eat that came from a living creature is fish."CreepingDeath_
But it's not accurate. It misinforms people into believing that vegetarians eat fish when they don't. "Pescetarian" is the word they should use.
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#25 KrotchLord
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Plants feel pain. They give off ultrasonic signatures when they are in distress. Let's not eat anything at all and see how long we last. It's all a crock. Humans have incisors for a reason.
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#26 Bourbons3
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Because fish isn't meat, its fish.
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#27 muthsera666
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="vlin1108"]Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.vlin1108

What relevance does that have?

You eat the fish not because of its meat, but because of the various plants the fish ate.

Then why not eliminate the consumption of any and all animal flesh and cut out the middlefish? What about shark?
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#28 zakkro
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[QUOTE="CreepingDeath_"]It's easier to say "I'm a vegetarian" than "The only food I eat that came from a living creature is fish."Jemdude
But it's not accurate. It misinforms people into believing that vegetarians eat fish when they don't. "Pescetarian" is the word they should use.

Not everyone is the same... there are those who are strict and those who don't necessarily follow what the label implies. It's the fact of life.
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[QUOTE="CreepingDeath_"]It's easier to say "I'm a vegetarian" than "The only food I eat that came from a living creature is fish."Jemdude
But it's not accurate. It misinforms people into believing that vegetarians eat fish when they don't. "Pescetarian" is the word they should use.

But if I told people I was a pescetarian I would have to explain what the hell it was to millions of people. I find, even when I tell people I'm a vegetarian, people ask me if I eat fish or chicken anyway.
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#31 xXInsomniacXx
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Well the vegetarians I've known eat white meats, such as chicken or fish, but never a red meat such as ham, or beef.
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#32 sAndroid17
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Well the vegetarians I've known eat white meats, such as chicken or fish, but never a red meat such as ham, or beef. xXInsomniacXx
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#33 vlin1108
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[QUOTE="vlin1108"]

[QUOTE="muthsera666"] What relevance does that have?muthsera666

You eat the fish not because of its meat, but because of the various plants the fish ate.

Then why not eliminate the consumption of any and all animal flesh and cut out the middlefish? What about shark?

You eat sharks because they're bad fish. They eat meat, which is always very bad.

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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="vlin1108"]Because the fish they eat probably only devoured plants during its lifetime.vlin1108

What relevance does that have?

You eat the fish not because of its meat, but because of the various plants the fish ate.

That sounds like a double standard .....

Regardless, cows - horses - sheep - goat etc all do the same, eat various plants.

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#35 muthsera666
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="vlin1108"]

You eat the fish not because of its meat, but because of the various plants the fish ate.

vlin1108

Then why not eliminate the consumption of any and all animal flesh and cut out the middlefish? What about shark?

You eat sharks because they're bad fish. They eat meat, which is always very bad.

Ah. You're being ironic! Sorry, it took me a bit... It's 4:30 AM here, lol.
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#36 Novadio
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Vegetarians are picky people with an excuse.
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#37 freek666
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Well, animals are not like people, Jemdude. Some of them act badly because they've had a hard life, or have
been mistreated...but, like people, some of them are just jerks.
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[QUOTE="Jemdude"][QUOTE="CreepingDeath_"]It's easier to say "I'm a vegetarian" than "The only food I eat that came from a living creature is fish."CreepingDeath_
But it's not accurate. It misinforms people into believing that vegetarians eat fish when they don't. "Pescetarian" is the word they should use.

But if I told people I was a pescetarian I would have to explain what the hell it was to millions of people. I find, even when I tell people I'm a vegetarian, people ask me if I eat fish or chicken anyway.

But what you and others are doing misinforms the general public into believing that fish is part of a vegetarian diet when it isn't. Pesctarians who call themselves "vegetarians" are contributing to this misinformation. If more of you on the pescetarian diet used the word more often, then more people would be informed about it.
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im still confused, if someone could answer these, it would be freaking awesome. 1. why do you people become vegetarians? is it because the cruelty of the killings of animals, or is it wanting to live a healthy life of just plants (you know what i mean)? The people who eat fish, are they mainly connected to the latter? Asone said, the fish only eat plants so its ok. but dont cows and other animals do the same? lastly, are there people who eat fish who are part of the first catagory (do not want the abuse of animals)? What rational do they have? THANKS!
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[QUOTE="muthsera666"][QUOTE="dmc333"]I'm a post-modern vegetarian. it's the new "hip" thing to do. You should try it.dmc333

I'm totally oblivious to the post-modern movements. Is this a legitimate fad, or just a joke I didn't get?

I eat meat, ironically.

Thou shalt not steal Bill Bailey's jokes! Also my aunt was a vegetarian (and a nutritionist) but when she got married to my uncle, he persuaded her to start eating fish.
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#41 deactivated-5df4e79c309ad
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im still confused, if someone could answer these, it would be freaking awesome. 1. why do you people become vegetarians? is it because the cruelty of the killings of animals, or is it wanting to live a healthy life of just plants (you know what i mean)? The people who eat fish, are they mainly connected to the latter? Asone said, the fish only eat plants so its ok. but dont cows and other animals do the same? lastly, are there people who eat fish who are part of the first catagory (do not want the abuse of animals)? What rational do they have? THANKS!MetallicaKings
People become vegetarian for different reasons. Animal welfare and/or health reasons are the usual reasons.
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#42 kakishi1
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im a Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian, and i also eat fish. Tho no mamals. When people ask, i tell them im a "vegitarian" cus most people wont know what "Ovo-Lacto" means. I eat meat because i peronally dont think its wronge or as wronge as eating mamals, mamals that are eaten are harvested and kept in cages all their life, while fish just swim around the ocean till they get caught and then turned into food. I still feel bad when i eat eggs and dairy products cus its contributing too animal crulity, though once i get on my two feet and able to drive to a trader joes, im gonna become a vegan, tho not sure about still eating fish then.
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#43 Theokhoth
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It's only meat if you can wear it.
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im a Ovo-Lacto Vegetarian, and i also eat fish. Tho no mamals. When people ask, i tell them im a "vegitarian" cus most people wont know what "Ovo-Lacto" means. I eat meat because i peronally dont think its wronge or as wronge as eating mamals, mamals that are eaten are harvested and kept in cages all their life, while fish just swim around the ocean till they get caught and then turned into food. I still feel bad when i eat eggs and dairy products cus its contributing too animal crulity, though once i get on my two feet and able to drive to a trader joes, im gonna become a vegan, tho not sure about still eating fish then. kakishi1
I'm not telling people what they can and cannot eat (although it would be great if more people were vegetarian). But calling one's self something that they are not, and in turn confusing the general public, is giving the vegetarian community a hard time.
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#45 judog1
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I don't know why either but I know on Friday's during lent you can't eat any meat but they allow you to eat fish maybe this is the reason.
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#46 Niner_Empire
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because its all part of self righteousness, without losing what you actually like anyway. most people cant be taken seriously. honestly.
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#47 TheSpinLight
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Plants feel pain. They give off ultrasonic signatures when they are in distress. Let's not eat anything at all and see how long we last. It's all a crock. Humans have incisors for a reason.KrotchLord

true that Ive never understood the animal cruelty argument the fact that plants are grown specifically to eat is basically the same as caged chickens not to mention meat is good for you

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#48 CreepingDeath_
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But what you and others are doing misinforms the general public into believing that fish is part of a vegetarian diet when it isn't. Pesctarians who call themselves "vegetarians" are contributing to this misinformation. If more of you on the pescetarian diet used the word more often, then more people would be informed about it.Jemdude
Most people, including me, don't really think it's that important.

Me: "I'm a vegetarian."

Friend: "Do you eat fish?"

Me: "Yes."

It gets the message across.

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#49 KLAX42
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I literally just had this conversation. Weird. :o

I have no idea but it's pretty annoying. :x

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#50 TBoogy
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I am a vegan, and i often say vegetarian just cause more people know the word. in the end, thats all that they are: words. the only time i have to even say it is when eating at a new place to make sure that my dish has no meat, eggs, butter, milk, or cheese. whatever it takes to get our needs across. ultimately we are at varying levels of the same journey.