why do people hate lawyers so much?

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#1 Lonelynight
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I don't get the hate, can someone explain this to me.
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#2 3eyedrazorback
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I don't hate them...But I can see where someone who had a family member murdered and hated the lawyer defending the murderer...
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I don't hate them...But I can see where someone who had a family member murdered and hated the lawyer defending the murderer...3eyedrazorback
isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer.
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#4 lostrib
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Because Divorce

Also Law and Order

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because they speak a different language and complicate the law (something that shouldnt be complicated in any real democracy)

lawyers shouldnt really exist, the law should be simple enough for any reasonable minded person to navigate. 

still wanna be one though

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#6 Smashbrossive50
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Mr. Farhat Abbas came to mind
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#7 Lonelynight
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because they speak a different language and complicate the law (something that shouldnt be complicated in any real democracy)

lawyers shouldnt really exist, the law should be simple enough for any reasonable minded person to navigate. 

still wanna be one though

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give an example.
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#8 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

because they speak a different language and complicate the law (something that shouldnt be complicated in any real democracy)

lawyers shouldnt really exist, the law should be simple enough for any reasonable minded person to navigate. 

still wanna be one though

Lonelynight
give an example.

is it not obvious? try reading your cell phone contract
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#9 MannyDelgado
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For the same reason that they hate mercenaries
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#10 chrisrooR
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My father works with lawyers. He's not a fan of them because they're always working with some sort of an agenda in mind, so being 'just friends' with one of them is sometimes difficult. Their pay is also, IMO, grossly inflated.
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#11 Necrifer
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because they speak a different language and complicate the law (something that shouldnt be complicated in any real democracy)

lawyers shouldnt really exist, the law should be simple enough for any reasonable minded person to navigate. 

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#12 CyberLips
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I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

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many reasons, some are incompetent in providing their legal services, some expect them to be miracle workers, they cost good money, people don't always like the results or people are sometimes at the receiving end of lawsuits, or victims of someones crimes can't seek justice because the defendant exercised their constitutional rights to a lawyer lots of reasons
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#14 drinkerofjuice
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I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

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Or, you know, it's their job to defend their client?
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The evil relatives run the Immigration Project of Los Angeles and see between 30-60 clients a day, and usually help clients for free or a max of $100. They fill out tons of paperwork, put packets together, get visas and green cards, etc. There have even been articles in the Times about them, since they've been doing the immigration law thing for like 40 years. I don't think they get much hate.
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Because they smell like avocados.
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[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I don't hate them...But I can see where someone who had a family member murdered and hated the lawyer defending the murderer...Lonelynight
isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer.

Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.
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#18 Lonelynight
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I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

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but they also defend innocent people who are falsely accused of a crime.
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#19 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I don't hate them...But I can see where someone who had a family member murdered and hated the lawyer defending the murderer...lightleggy
isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer.

Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.

but that's just a few lawyers.
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#20 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="CyberLips"]

I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

drinkerofjuice
Or, you know, it's their job to defend their client?

Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I don't hate them...But I can see where someone who had a family member murdered and hated the lawyer defending the murderer...lightleggy
isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer.

Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.

lets not forget it works the other way sometimes
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#22 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer.

Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.

but that's just a few lawyers.

That's not just a few lawyers, pretty much every defense attorney is there, even when there are tons of evidence against their client they still go cloak and dagger on him.
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#23 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="CyberLips"]

I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

lightleggy
Or, you know, it's their job to defend their client?

Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.

somebody has to defend him/her.
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#24 Ugalde-
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A lot of the reason already listed here should have given you your answer. Its really not one thing, its all of it. People who get sued will hate lawyers, doctors, businessmen, ordinary people, anyone. Some lawyers help bad people get off. I think its mainly the first scernario though.
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]I don't hate them...But I can see where someone who had a family member murdered and hated the lawyer defending the murderer...lightleggy
isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer.

Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.

Because that's his job. Everyone has a right to have someone advocate on their behalf no matter how much it may bother the shitheads sitting at home watching Nancy Grace.

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#26 deactivated-5e9044657a310
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Because they profit from others misfortune
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#27 bnarmz
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Maybe because theyre expensive, and they assist in complicating laws/rules and regulations, often manipulating the English language in such a way that you may find yourself having your own words used against you. Some of them look at their job as if its a game... often competing against other lawyers who are actually their friends.later taking your hard earned money and spending it on a weekend golfing expedition while lauging and conversing about the cases they fought against each other on.

People shouldnt have to go through such extreme financing and headaches just to get their point/story across. The justice system is not only blind but vindictive, especially for a person who has no court room experience, or the funds to hire a decent lawyer. Free lawyers/Legal Aids do not always give you their best efforts, plus many of them are rookies themselves.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.

Sure that should be defended. If it's "that obvious" that the person is guilty, then the prosecution shouldn't have any problem destroying the defense. The person still needs to be defended, though.
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#29 Ugalde-
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Lonelynight"] isn't it necessary to have a lawyer to defend people who has been accused of crime, I thought they are provided by the state if the accused can't afford his/her own lawyer. worlock77

Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.

Because that's his job. Everyone has a right to have someone advocate on their behalf no matter how much it may bother the shitheads sitting at home watching Nancy Grace.

Your right. But the question isnt should people hate lawyers. Its why, and that is the reason why, like it or not.
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#30 worlock77
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"] Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.MrGeezer
Sure that should be defended. If it's "that obvious" that the person is guilty, then the prosecution shouldn't have any problem destroying the defense. The person still needs to be defended, though.

Nah, f*ck Constitutional rights.

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#31 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"] Yes but there are some cases where its just ridiculously obvious that the person tried is indeed the killer and the lawyer still makes an inhuman effort to let him walk.Ugalde-

Because that's his job. Everyone has a right to have someone advocate on their behalf no matter how much it may bother the shitheads sitting at home watching Nancy Grace.

Your right. But the question isnt should people hate lawyers. Its why, and that is the reason why, like it or not.

And I'm responding to a specific post, not the original question.

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#32 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="CyberLips"]

I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

lightleggy
Or, you know, it's their job to defend their client?

Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.

He's the defense lawyer to make sure the guy is getting a fair trial. It doesn't mean he's trying to defend the guy for real.
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#33 dramaybaz
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because they speak a different language and complicate the law (something that shouldnt be complicated in any real democracy)

lawyers shouldnt really exist, the law should be simple enough for any reasonable minded person to navigate. 

still wanna be one though

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Because everyone out there is a reasonably minded person.
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[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"][QUOTE="CyberLips"]

I think it's because lawyers defend people who know are guilty of crimes just to get paid. :(

lightleggy

Or, you know, it's their job to defend their client?

Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.

In Canada, that is not the case. If the criminal confess to the crime they must report it or they face jail time.

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i don't hate them, i was actually considering being a lawyer at one point

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#36 CursedChamp
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I guess from their bad experiences with lawyers.
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Concerning the complex language, unfortunately, it is an unavoidable problem.

For the same reason that they hate mercenariesMannyDelgado
This is definitely it.

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Because

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The real reason people dislike lawyers is because they will do whatever it takes to win the case against you no matter the consequences to your life.  They don't care if your a good person, innocent, will be financially devastated, or sent to jail---they just want to win and will do what it takes. 

If you've ever set across from an attorney who was on the opposing team you will know exactly what I mean. 

There are attorneys you wont hate and those are the ones that are on your side.

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#40 General_X
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The Trouble with Lawyers.
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#41 GOGOGOGURT
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They make money off other peoples miseries.  They wouldn't be so bad if they actually tried to IMPROVE the system, but they jsut make it worse.

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#42 worlock77
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The real reason people dislike lawyers is because they will do whatever it takes to win the case against you no matter the consequences to your life.  They don't care if your a good person, innocent, will be financially devastated, or sent to jail---they just want to win and will do what it takes. 

If you've ever set across from an attorney who was on the opposing team you will know exactly what I mean. 

There are attorneys you wont hate and those are the ones that are on your side.

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Yup, an attorney's job is to advocate on behalf of their client and win their case if at all possible.

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#43 pie-junior
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ITT: the bulk of a lawyer's work is litigation and criminal trials
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#44 pie-junior
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"] Or, you know, it's their job to defend their client?Communist_Soul

Its still no justification. Lets say a lawyer gets hired by a serial rapist and its really obvious that he is guilty, and hell the rapist could even confess some of his crimes to the lawyer, and the lawyer would still try to defend him and let him walk free. thats disgusting and it shouldn't be defended in any way.

In Canada, that is not the case. If the criminal confess to the crime they must report it or they face jail time.

no
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I don't know either. Everyone has a right to be defended. You are after all, innocent until proven guilty.