Why are large objects referred to as "she's" and not "he's"?

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#1 KeitekeTokage
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This goes for most things from cars, to large vessels, to even planets.

Can someone explain or speculate as to how this could have started?

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#2 Shad0ki11
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Do you have a problem with females or something?

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#3 Jolt_counter119
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Because guys usually love those things, and guys usually like girls.

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#4 GaussMonkey
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People love their cars, some men would prefer to refer to their car as a she rather than a he.

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#5 Pikdum
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Hmm... good question. Maybe it has somekind of very old religous meaning. Such as how Eve was created from Adam. Where in this case from man (Adam) creates a ship (Eve).

Meh. I don't know. lol.

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#6 194197844077667059316682358889
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People love their cars, some men would prefer to refer to their car as a she rather than a he.

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Also, for some guys it would be alarming to think that they were inside a guy every time they drove somewhere
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#7 vadicta
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They're treated with love and respect, like any good woman.

And also men go inside them.

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#8 Zeldafan221
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Good question... maybe because guys like girls and usually guys call these objects "she?"
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#9 -Red-Cell-
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They are almost exclusively built and operated by men, especially in the past, and it would sound g@y to have said "he's a beauty" "I'm sailing him across the Atlantic" etc

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#10 hippiesanta
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the "she" are normally use by american slang....... or perhaps influence by the french which some object either masculine or feminine
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#11 Inconsistancy
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They are almost exclusively built and operated by men, especially in the past, and it would sound g@y to have said "he's a beauty" "I'm sailing him across the Atlantic" etc

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Lol. One odd thing, is Gibson Les Paul's... Generally I'd consider the guitar feminine especially in shape, but... Les certainly is a guy.
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#12 metalkitten
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for boats its mostly tradition to name it a female name cause of males sailing without females or so... cars are probably same - the male see it as a female and treat it good not sure what u mean by planets..mars sound pretty masculine to me also depening on which language all subjects can be females or males and it can be different depending on which language
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#13 lamprey263
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you mean inanimate objects like cars, some people might refer to it as a she, because men are possessive, and femininity is submissive in a patriarchal society, anyhow I hear people talk like this in movies but never hear people talk like this in real life
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i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

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i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

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O......k..... wow O_O
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#17 weezyfb
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Those vessels are like the womb and the ground aka the earth are refered to as such because of the whole "mother earth" thing
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i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

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im not sure what to say to this....
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#19 YellowOneKinobi
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While I don't remember where I've heard this, I believe "large things" like ships, etc are referred to as female because they sustain the life of the crew, not unlike how a mother sustains her infant child.

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[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"]

i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

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im not sure what to say to this....

Meh. Whatever gets you off, I guess.
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i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

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if he gets it pregnant, maybe it'll be a hybrid :P
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i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

VaguelyTagged

Does he choose top or bottom?

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i think.. it has gone too far in some cases..

VaguelyTagged

"But his wandering eye has spread beyond cars to other vehicles. He says that his most intense sexual experience was "making love" to the helicopter from 1980s TV hit Airwolf."

What..the hell?

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i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my time
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i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timesurrealnumber5

Oh c'mon! young goku kicks ass. =V

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#26 Teenaged
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This goes for most things from cars, to large vessels, to even planets.

Can someone explain or speculate as to how this could have started?

KeitekeTokage

I thought all planets were referred to as "it".

i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timesurrealnumber5

The silver T would like to hear that answer.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timeBaconbits2004

Oh c'mon! young goku kicks ass. =V

more so name/avy recognition than the avy it self
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#28 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"]

This goes for most things from cars, to large vessels, to even planets.

Can someone explain or speculate as to how this could have started?

Teenaged

I thought all planets were referred to as "it".


Not Mother Earth. ;P

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#29 Baconbits2004
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[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timesurrealnumber5

Oh c'mon! young goku kicks ass. =V

more so name/avy recognition than the avy it self


Oh, alright.
Not familiar with the TC myself.

I'm with Teenaged on wanting to hear your explanation though. :>

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Because we like Big Booty.....
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If I had a car, I'd probably name it after how I felt which sex it was. Stubborn, but reliable - female. Fast but sets out at the worst of times, and swallows gas like mad - male. :P And ships are female because the galleon figure is the only female allowed on a ship - old sailor myth.
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[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"]

This goes for most things from cars, to large vessels, to even planets.

Can someone explain or speculate as to how this could have started?

Teenaged

I thought all planets were referred to as "it".

i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timesurrealnumber5

The silver T would like to hear that answer.

learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

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#33 Baconbits2004
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If I had a car, I'd probably name it after how I felt which sex it was. Stubborn, but reliable - female. Fast but sets out at the worst of times, and swallows gas like mad - male. :P And ships are female because the galleon figure is the only female allowed on a ship - old sailor myth.Deihjan

Has on-board GPS, male.
Fits 8 kds and commonly makes trips to soccer practice... female. >_>

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learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

surrealnumber5

I dont understand how that explains the "she"s placed instead of "he"s.

Is it implied from it that those objects carry on the female pronoun because they are of a specific declension cIass? I really dont get it.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="KeitekeTokage"]I thought all planets were referred to as "it".

i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timesurrealnumber5

The silver T would like to hear that answer.

learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

i already mentioned the languages - and not all languages will have masculine on the same objects either also it doesnt make up for the boat fact which is an old sailer thing and as far as i know some ships dont have female names - like cargo ships or ferrys for just cars - while sailing boats and ferrys that carry people will have female names
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#36 metalkitten
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

I dont understand how that explains the "she"s placed instead of "he"s.

Is it implied from it that those objects carry on the female pronoun because they are of a specific declension cIass? I really dont get it.

for example when learning a roman language like spanish, french or portuguese or german (there are more ill just take those i dealt with) all subjects are either male or female (or neutral - depending on language), so lets say a butterfly is in portuguese a borboleta (most words who end with a is feminine) so when putting borboleta in a sentence u need to think of it being female in an kind of bending, also people who has mother tounge as one of those languages will often in english refer to it as a she or he - depending what it is in their language that might explain some but growing up sailing i heard other stories of sailing boats and my countrys language dont use masculine or feminine or objects so the language thing might only be a part of it
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#37 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

I dont understand how that explains the "she"s placed instead of "he"s.

Is it implied from it that those objects carry on the female pronoun because they are of a specific declension cIass? I really dont get it.

depends on the language and some nouns can be either or depending on who is using it and how, but the point is, most vehicles are woman as a throwback in their etymology. just a carry over from ships and carts that we still deal with today.
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[QUOTE="metalkitten"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

The silver T would like to hear that answer.

learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

i already mentioned the languages - and not all languages will have masculine on the same objects either also it doesnt make up for the boat fact which is an old sailer thing and as far as i know some ships dont have female names - like cargo ships or ferrys for just cars - while sailing boats and ferrys that carry people will have female names

most cultures with a gender structer do indeed have female inflections on ships.
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[QUOTE="metalkitten"] for example when learning a roman language like spanish, french or portuguese or german (there are more ill just take those i dealt with) all subjects are either male or female (or neutral - depending on language), so lets say a butterfly is in portuguese a borboleta (most words who end with a is feminine) so when putting borboleta in a sentence u need to think of it being female in an kind of bending, also people who has mother tounge as one of those languages will often in english refer to it as a she or he - depending what it is in their language that might explain some but growing up sailing i heard other stories of sailing boats and my countrys language dont use masculine or feminine or objects so the language thing might only be a part of it

Doesnt that only explain the "mistakes" foreign people make when learning English? That they "transfer" familiar rules over to the language they are learning. [QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] depends on the language and some nouns can be either or depending on who is using it and how, but the point is, most vehicles are woman as a throwback in their etymology. just a carry over from ships and carts that we still deal with today.

Ah right. That those words once had a grammatical gender. That makes sense but to me personally it makes more sense that it is just an association of those words with other female notions (like "mother") or stereotypical female characteristics, like metalkitten explained.
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[QUOTE="metalkitten"] for example when learning a roman language like spanish, french or portuguese or german (there are more ill just take those i dealt with) all subjects are either male or female (or neutral - depending on language), so lets say a butterfly is in portuguese a borboleta (most words who end with a is feminine) so when putting borboleta in a sentence u need to think of it being female in an kind of bending, also people who has mother tounge as one of those languages will often in english refer to it as a she or he - depending what it is in their language that might explain some but growing up sailing i heard other stories of sailing boats and my countrys language dont use masculine or feminine or objects so the language thing might only be a part of itTeenaged
Doesnt that only explain the "mistakes" foreign people make when learning English? That they "transfer" familiar rules over to the language they are learning.
depends on the language and some nouns can be either or depending on who is using it and how, but the point is, most vehicles are woman as a throwback in their etymology. just a carry over from ships and carts that we still deal with today.surrealnumber5
Ah right. That those words once had a grammatical gender. That makes sense but to me personally it makes more sense that it is just an association of those words with other female notions (like "mother") or stereotypical female characteristics, like metalkitten explained.

in french, the way it was taught to me, most nouns were assigned their sex based on how they were used, if they were submissive or not

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I have no idea why. I use 'it' since when it is an inanimate object.
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#42 svenus97
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It's because men refer to women as objects, and in return, to objects as women.

[spoiler] :P [/spoiler]

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#43 surrealnumber5
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It's because men refer to women as objects, and in return, to objects as women.

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because boats, cars etc.. are possessions.. like women :P
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#45 metalkitten
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[QUOTE="metalkitten"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] learned about grammatical genders when learning french but because i dont want to waste my time on a thread where i feel nothing said will be read if you really want to read about it here is a wiki

surrealnumber5

i already mentioned the languages - and not all languages will have masculine on the same objects either also it doesnt make up for the boat fact which is an old sailer thing and as far as i know some ships dont have female names - like cargo ships or ferrys for just cars - while sailing boats and ferrys that carry people will have female names

most cultures with a gender structer do indeed have female inflections on ships.

i hate to point it out to u but boat is actually masculine in french... same with portuguese and spanish, feminine in italian though

and yes TEENAGED ure right about how it mostly just explain how the ones born with the language may refer to the english word as a she or he cause theyre so used to it being that - my bf who is portuguese do it all the time - and i go- oh so thats a he or she then?:P apart from that he's excellent in english though

i do belive more in the old ship story about sailmen etc i was only trying to explain the languages who use the male and female objects and how it works

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She's a thing of beauty, historically more emphasized than he.
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[QUOTE="Deihjan"]If I had a car, I'd probably name it after how I felt which sex it was. Stubborn, but reliable - female. Fast but sets out at the worst of times, and swallows gas like mad - male. :P And ships are female because the galleon figure is the only female allowed on a ship - old sailor myth.Baconbits2004

Has on-board GPS, male.
Fits 8 kds and commonly makes trips to soccer practice... female. >_>

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i have a linguistics based answer but when i came in the thread and saw young goku i knew it would not be worth my timesurrealnumber5
Don't worry, I'm not interested another round of your mental masturbation I can get you a cookie if it would make you feel better though? And it seems some people do care what you have to say, so that's a good thing right? You're going to do great things someday surrealnumber5, keep your chin up! :)
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#49 artichoke
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Because english is just weird like that. Though honestly I don't remember ever having much trouble getting used to the lack of gender in objects.