What was Before the Big Bang? Will we ever know?

What do you guys think was before the Big Bang? Do you think God made it happen, since it couldn't have happened from nothing. Or maybe it was the remains of a previous Universe, going from Big Bang to Big Crunch to Big Bang and so forth.

If so, what was "the beginning"? Was the Universe infinite and there was no beginning, except a Big Bang to Big Crunch,etc cycle?

It's hard to understand "infinite" for a person.

Also, will there ever be a point where Science can help us know what happened before the Big Bang? My opinion, I don't know. It may be hard figuring out what happened before an event that started everything in the first place scientifically.

note: this thread is not a "does God exist or not" thread, you can say that you believe he started it all and so forth but stay in your limits!

Since Science is progressing, we now know of the Big Bang, and maybe one day we will know more, such as how it all came to be. Maybe space-travel will be invented? (time-travel)

What's South of the South Pole?CptJSparrow

Santa's brother.

I say we just leave it alone, because logically the universe should not exist. You go backfar enough on the timeline and youget to the question of what caused the big bang. Now obviously we don't know, which brings out the "therefore god exists" crowd. But then you have to ask yourself what was there to create god? And because we can't prove that god or whatever created god exist, nor what caused the big bang, we are left at the conclusion that the universeand life itself cannot exist. Its like trying to divide by zero.

unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableSerial-No_3404

Well how would time-travel work? It would be cool if it did, cause then we can get the answers to all our questions! But..I mean if through time-travel you were to go back like 10billion years wouldn't you just land in space at that time and die and not come back? lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY0onv1gvsA The truth.

I say we just leave it alone, because logically the universe should not exist. You go backfar enough on the timeline and youget to the question of what caused the big bang. Now obviously we don't know, which brings out the "therefore god exists" crowd. But then you have to ask yourself what was there to create god? And because we can't prove that god or whatever created god exist, nor what caused the big bang, we are left at the conclusion that the universeand life itself cannot exist. Its like trying to divide by zero.

PBSnipes

hah yah. If you say what created the big bang,then what created that, and so on, it's impossible. Either God is infinity, or the Universe is infinity (and just has been repeating the big bang process over and over)

Imagine a time-travel thing though...going back to like a minute before Big Bang started, and then you see this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PY0onv1gvsA

Ok jokes aside...

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableandyb1205

Well how would time-travel work? It would be cool if it did, cause then we can get the answers to all our questions! But..I mean if through time-travel you were to go back like 10billion years wouldn't you just land in space at that time and die and not come back? lol

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableandyb1205

Well how would time-travel work? It would be cool if it did, cause then we can get the answers to all our questions! But..I mean if through time-travel you were to go back like 10billion years wouldn't you just land in space at that time and die and not come back? lol

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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbablelonewolf604

Well how would time-travel work? It would be cool if it did, cause then we can get the answers to all our questions! But..I mean if through time-travel you were to go back like 10billion years wouldn't you just land in space at that time and die and not come back? lol

But how can you go back into time, and come back to the present. You would just get lost and die.andyb1205

You need this guy

But how can you go back into time, and come back to the present. You would just get lost and die.andyb1205

And, what if there is a very small blackhole within our Earth itself? That'll be cool :)andyb1205

unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableSerial-No_3404

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableDivergeUnify

Or maybe some Aliens will come to Earth and be like "sup well we figured you humans are so dumb so yah..this is how you use time travel" and then we found out how to use time-travel safely by the help of aliens? And all they wanted in return was all of our beer so that they can take it back to their place? Would we do it or no?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableandyb1205

Or maybe some Aliens will come to Earth and be like "sup well we figured you humans are so dumb so yah..this is how you use time travel" and then we found out how to use time-travel safely by the help of aliens? And all they wanted in return was all of our beer so that they can take it back to their place? Would we do it or no?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableandyb1205

Or maybe some Aliens will come to Earth and be like "sup well we figured you humans are so dumb so yah..this is how you use time travel" and then we found out how to use time-travel safely by the help of aliens? And all they wanted in return was all of our beer so that they can take it back to their place? Would we do it or no?

if the aliens were so smart they'd be very logical and say "it kills brain cells we don't want to hurt our superior intellect..." and we'd have both time travel and beer

And, what if there is a very small blackhole within our Earth itself? That'll be cool :)andyb1205

then we would all die a slow painfull death, anyway theres a blackhole in our galaxy.

an intergallactic war.Truth be told the big bang was a super-thermo-hydro-nuclear-atomic-hydrogen bomb. :P

The Big Bang is just a theory, it may not even be true. Man..life sucks! We're just one tiny planet in a huge universe.. :(

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

jrhawk42

And then what was the very first Universe and how was that formed?

1) Universe is infinity, an everlasting cycle.

2) God exists.

[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

andyb1205

And then what was the very first Universe and how was that formed?

1) Universe is infinity, an everlasting cycle.

2) God exists.

proof? link?

[QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

-insertion-

And then what was the very first Universe and how was that formed?

1) Universe is infinity, an everlasting cycle.

2) God exists.

proof? link?

Lol? I said those are the 2 possibilities. Without a beginning, the Universe must be infinite.

And if there was a beginning, then there must be a Creator..God (who is the uncreated, the infinite).

Those are basically the 2 choices a person can choose to believe. I'm just saying...

[QUOTE="-insertion-"][QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

andyb1205

And then what was the very first Universe and how was that formed?

1) Universe is infinity, an everlasting cycle.

2) God exists.

proof? link?

Lol? I said those are the 2 possibilities. Without a beginning, the Universe must be infinite.

And if there was a beginning, then there must be a Creator..God (who is the uncreated, the infinite).

Those are basically the 2 choices a person can choose to believe. I'm just saying...

you did not say those were possibilities. you posted them as fact. disclaimer next time. and since no theory has been proven, and since man can't comprehend infinity, we should not discount anything. but we should never imply any theory as to being fact.

[QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="-insertion-"][QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

-insertion-

And then what was the very first Universe and how was that formed?

1) Universe is infinity, an everlasting cycle.

2) God exists.

proof? link?

Lol? I said those are the 2 possibilities. Without a beginning, the Universe must be infinite.

And if there was a beginning, then there must be a Creator..God (who is the uncreated, the infinite).

Those are basically the 2 choices a person can choose to believe. I'm just saying...

you did not say those were possibilities. you posted them as fact. disclaimer next time. and since no theory has been proven, and since man can't comprehend infinity, we should not discount anything. but we should never imply any theory as to being fact.

What else could be the possibility then? Out of nothing something appeared and started everything? Well maybe I've been watching a few Stephen Hawking videos lately on youtube, but those are the 2 main possibilities accepted by physists.

[QUOTE="-insertion-"][QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="-insertion-"][QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

there's no evidence at all that the Big Bang created matter, for all we know matter could of existed before the big bang, and people assuming it's the begining off everything is just bad science.

Most people like to have a nice simple begining and ending to everything, but really the universe just doesn't work like that. Most likely there was a universe before the big bang, and one day (insanely far in the future) we will have another one.

andyb1205

And then what was the very first Universe and how was that formed?

1) Universe is infinity, an everlasting cycle.

2) God exists.

proof? link?

Lol? I said those are the 2 possibilities. Without a beginning, the Universe must be infinite.

And if there was a beginning, then there must be a Creator..God (who is the uncreated, the infinite).

Those are basically the 2 choices a person can choose to believe. I'm just saying...

you did not say those were possibilities. you posted them as fact. disclaimer next time. and since no theory has been proven, and since man can't comprehend infinity, we should not discount anything. but we should never imply any theory as to being fact.

What else could be the possibility then? Out of nothing something appeared and started everything? Well maybe I've been watching a few Stephen Hawking videos lately on youtube, but those are the 2 main possibilities accepted by physists.

theories are great. but they prove nothing. they just give us ideas of how things are. and who says that there had to be a beginning? perhaps space and time are infinite. or atleast time.

unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableSerial-No_3404

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableMountainDew77

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

unless you can only travel into the future. which actually makes more since. :|

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableMountainDew77

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

Well i think it was stephen hawking or someone but the future does not yet exist. The past does exist but the future does not, because actions were already done in the past but are yet to be done in the future.

So if you time-travel to the past, you can't travel back to the future.

Or if the future does exist then that'll mean everything has already been decided, so there is no point in life.

Omg you just confused me dude LOL hah wow!

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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableandyb1205

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

Well i think it was stephen hawking or someone but the future does not yet exist. The past does exist but the future does not, because actions were already done in the past but are yet to be done in the future.

So if you time-travel to the past, you can't travel back to the future.

Or if the future does exist then that'll mean everything has already been decided, so there is no point in life.

Omg you just confused me dude LOL hah wow!

you can travel into the future by speeding up time. you can't reverse time, that's why you can't travel in the past.

[QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="MountainDew77"]

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbable-insertion-

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

Well i think it was stephen hawking or someone but the future does not yet exist. The past does exist but the future does not, because actions were already done in the past but are yet to be done in the future.

So if you time-travel to the past, you can't travel back to the future.

Or if the future does exist then that'll mean everything has already been decided, so there is no point in life.

Omg you just confused me dude LOL hah wow!

you can travel into the future by speeding up time. you can't reverse time, that's why you can't travel in the past.

Well if you can travel into the future then doesn't that events have already been decided,etc aka there's no point in life? Well hard to explain...

[QUOTE="-insertion-"][QUOTE="andyb1205"][QUOTE="MountainDew77"]

[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]unless we make time travel...itll never be known...btw...time travel is NOT impossible...its just greatly improbableandyb1205

If we could time travel, people from the future would have come back already... Which is why I don't believe in fate.

Well i think it was stephen hawking or someone but the future does not yet exist. The past does exist but the future does not, because actions were already done in the past but are yet to be done in the future.

So if you time-travel to the past, you can't travel back to the future.

Or if the future does exist then that'll mean everything has already been decided, so there is no point in life.

Omg you just confused me dude LOL hah wow!

you can travel into the future by speeding up time. you can't reverse time, that's why you can't travel in the past.

Well if you can travel into the future then doesn't that events have already been decided,etc aka there's no point in life? Well hard to explain...

no. it means you sped up time. :|