Most (all?) ideas of an afterlife involve it being without sin. In order to have an afterlife where people didn't have the ability to go around stabbing other people, they'd have to be wired like robots. There's literally no other way.[QUOTE="Crypto138"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]Your answer my friend has just blown my mind...
are you saying that the only concept of afterlife that you can think of is by having yoru brain wired to a robot?
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I don't know about that... I think I could conceive of a world in which the circumstances were so altered that my consciousness or mind may not have to be altered to make sin unthinkable depending on your definition of mind. In the world as it exists now, a certain sin for a certain person can be pleasurable, but that does not have to be true, we assume it simply is because of our individual histories and our bio-chemistry, but those are so variable and ever changing that to use them as a form of identity by saying this is my consciousness, this way I react, seems naive.
Right now, very, very few people burn themselves alive. There are a number of reasons why relating to physical pain and psychology. The mechanisms to cover pain so it isn't felt are already present in the body, there are extreme occasions that the body does not feel even intense pain despite signals that are being sent by the body to cause it. Is it rewiring the brain to be in a world where the body is triggered to override pain signals not just in times of extreme need, thereby eliminating pain and removing at least one barrier to the person inclined to commit suicide by burning themselves alive. Is it the world or the intrinsic you that has changed, or both?
Imagine landing on a planet where the air itself triggers the release of hormones and chemicals that override pain, does that mean your consciousness was changed and your brain rewired? In other words, if your consciousness as you are conceiving it is a product not just of the internal, but how you interact with what's around you, I suppose this would be rewiring, but then one really has to question one's status as an athiest, because you're bordering on an all in one sort of universal consciousness. "You" are a product not just of your thoughts and history, but your reactions as you have come to know them in the arbitrary existence you have lived, making that existence as much a part of "you" as your own thoughts and history. If on the other hand, you are saying there is something uniquely you in there, no you would not have to change that to make the unthinkable, thinkable you would merely have to manipulate the body that is the middle man between you and the world.
Considering we weren't talking about pain or anything physical, I can't say I have any idea what kind of point you think you're making. So explain to me exactly how an afterlife could be kept from being as corrupt as this world, without infringing on anyone's free will?
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