We're all that's left!

It's caused a hemorrhage of users and killed discussion. On top of terribad articles like this:http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-disturbing-representation-of-women-in-the-rainbow-six-siege-e3-demo/1100-6420266/ Personally I like debating things, even if the other guy is an idiot, with PC it's just push those feelings down deep and don't think.

PC just ruins everything :'(

Honestly I don't even understand the business model either. It just pushes customers away. GS used to be the 50th most visited website in the world. Yes world. That was years ago, now they're like 900. I don't wonder why.

Okay, and...?

Times change. Terms of service may change. What may have been acceptable conduct 10 years ago may not be acceptable conduct now.

But the point still remains that this forum is still WAY more lax about conduct than many forums out there. We're still mostly allowed to speak our opinions here as long as we're not deliberately trolling with stuff like, "Hitler was right, the jews need to disappear." How many instances can you cite of someone getting banned here because of the opinions they expressed as opposed to how they expressed their opinions? In my anecdotal view, that's extremely rare. Aside from very clear instances of trolling, it seems to be that the majority of people who get suspended or banned are usually suspended or banned because of HOW they express their opinions. Which is perfectly reasonable, actually. And while it's true that we might have been able to get away with more in the old days, we're still able to get away with a LOT of bad conduct here that absolutely wouldn't be tolerated on some other websites.

I just don't really see the problem. I've received moderations before, and 9 times out of 10 I could accept that it was my own fault for not following rules that I knew about and were clearly posted. I may be banned tomorrow, but if that happens it's PROBABLY because I was acting like a jackass and I PROBABLY will be able to look back in retrospect and see that I knew I was toeing the line before I ever typed whatever it was that got me banned. I really just don't see the terms of use being THAT restrictive here. We can actually still get away with quite a bit of inappropriate conduct, and it's generally not very hard at all (for me at least) to speak my mind while still not presenting myself as such a jackass that I need to be banned. This has nothing to do with systematically eliminating anyone who isn't pro-LBGT. This isn't a censorship issue to get worked up about. Even if there is a pro-LBGT bias among the people who run this site, they still generally allow dissenters to give their opinion (hence the entire reason why arguments about LBGT issues are actually a thing that happen here; if the dissenters flat-out got banned then there'd be nothing to sustain a discussion).

The past couple years, yes they have. However; lately, as in the past couple months, I have noticed a shift in the other direction. People are getting fed up with them. I see it in the news, in the media, online, I've seen it at the university and I've seen it at work. The last season of South Park is an indicator as they focus on current issues. Another example is the emerging popularity of academics like Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. This SJW mentality started off as a "noble" movement where they would preach tolerance and other good things. Don't get me wrong, they're nice things. There is an obstacle though... not everyone is the same and not everyone has the same beliefs or values. And that's something they don't get, or don't want to understand. I'll use myself as an example; I have messed up feelings about transgenders. I don't hate them or wish any harm upon them. I don't have anything against them, and I wouldn't treat them any better or worse than someone who isn't. I've been in a situation where I voiced it very similarly and I was swarmed by these young people and berated because I did not think the way that they did. So we've seen where if someone doesn't agree with a SJW or have different beliefs, they are bullied. On the other hand, I was in another situation and asked a colleague, from Saudi Arabia, if they believe that Sharia Law should be in effect here (Canada). That colleague said 'yes' and the people that berated me earlier said nothing. The problem is the way that certain people are criticized for their opinions and beliefs, but not others. We may need to elaborate more on our opinions but that doesn't mean we are forced to change them (they change all the time anyway as we grow). Sorry for the rant, but I am a strong believer of free speech and I don't think anyone should feel oppressed for speaking their mind. There are extreme cases, I would argue, that are exceptions like people who deny that the Holocaust occurred, but almost everyone will make it evident that those types of comments are unacceptable.

@SOedipus: I'm waiting for the SJW movement to attack itself. It's bound to happen soon :P

@lamprey263: It certainly virulent.

Man everyone always thinks one user makes a site. They don't. GS banned more prominent members when it was stricter and the site didn't slow down. This site is slower due to the change in internet culture. Anyway AS wasn't banned for one comment but his history. I imagine if he was anti whatever issue is important to you then you wouldn't complain. He also only posted a year or two in OT. Not really a longstanding member.

They've already turned on gay males, kicking them out of their organizations because they aren't oppressed enough.

@MrGeezer: I don't buy it. At one point you were allowed to outright insult gay people.

Now you can't even talk about trans-gendered people.

Can a moderator confirm that we aren't allowed to talk about transgendered people?

That doesn't even fit the narrative that the people running the website just want to push the pro-LBGT agenda. How is anyone supposed to be able to recruit others to the "SJW" cause if the entire topic is off-limits to discussion?

It would rather be how you talk about them. I can't see any reason why transgendered people as a topic should be banned from begin discussed.

But then as a Norwegian it takes time before I learn why some things are considered racists and/or rude in US and shouldn't be mentioned.

Oh that's right. Forgot about that.

ok