Sol Campbell warns fans to stay away from Euro 2012 For UK users, there'll be a Panorama on this tonight. Absolutely irresponsible of UEFA to even allow both countries to host Euro 2012 if racism to this massive extent actually goes on regularly.
[QUOTE="michaelP4"]Sol Campbell warns fans to stay away from Euro 2012 For UK users, there'll be a Panorama on this tonight. Absolutely irresponsible of UEFA to even allow both countries to host Euro 2012 if racism to this massive extent actually goes on regularly. Wow.. that sucks. Are these fans actual NeoNazis though, or are they just doing these insults to get into the other team's heads?
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="michaelP4"]Sol Campbell warns fans to stay away from Euro 2012 For UK users, there'll be a Panorama on this tonight. Absolutely irresponsible of UEFA to even allow both countries to host Euro 2012 if racism to this massive extent actually goes on regularly. Wow.. that sucks. Are these fans actual NeoNazis though, or are they just doing these insults to get into the other team's heads? Not sure, but none of them can claim to be ignorant to what that salute actually means and signifies, that's for sure.
[QUOTE="michaelP4"]Sol Campbell warns fans to stay away from Euro 2012 For UK users, there'll be a Panorama on this tonight. Absolutely irresponsible of UEFA to even allow both countries to host Euro 2012 if racism to this massive extent actually goes on regularly.kingkong0124
Wow.. that sucks. Are these fans actual NeoNazis though, or are they just doing these insults to get into the other team's heads?
Really messed up either way; watched the extended news report earlier today and they were making monkey sounds as black fans walked by the stands. Sounds to me it is indeed raw racism, and they're not just trying to put off the opposition or anything.
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="michaelP4"]Sol Campbell warns fans to stay away from Euro 2012 For UK users, there'll be a Panorama on this tonight. Absolutely irresponsible of UEFA to even allow both countries to host Euro 2012 if racism to this massive extent actually goes on regularly. Wow.. that sucks. Are these fans actual NeoNazis though, or are they just doing these insults to get into the other team's heads? If they're doing it to get into other team's heads, they ain't helping.
I knew Ukraine had some racism problems, but Poland as well? Were they the ones doing the Nazi salute, shouldnt they all hate Nazis?
BossPerson
Yep, Poland does indeed have a big racism problem, as does Russia. It's a form of anti-communism that has survived post-USSR. Although that's not to say it's just anti-communism. From all the reports I've seen on racism in Russia for example, these movements do indeed to be genuinely racist rather than just anti-communists, angry people etc. It was more that they probably used that as a way to recruit people into these movements - then of course indoctrinate their recruits into believing racist ideologies.
if problems are so bad that they're telling people not to go to countries where violent neo-nazi and ultra-nationalist gangs beat foreigners they shouldn't just tell fans not to come, the sports teams themselves should pull out of the events
If they dont see other human beings as equal, lets them seperate them from the rest of us.
BossPerson
It's just a couple of reckless youth. I doubt much of the country would be fine with nazi salutes
If that is the case it is something that should have been dealt with by the country's FA. Here in the UK, the authourities are actively working to kick racism out of football
Here's a fact: the Brits love yellow journalism. It's in their blood. They just have to do stuff like this. Panorama is known for its idiotic tabloid stunts.
Here's another fact: football racism is a problem in all of Europe. In February David Cameron promised to crush football racism. People were arrested in the UK this year thanks to their racism directed at football players and fans.
People were complaining about German racism during the 2006 World Cup.
You can't handle this problem if you sweep it under a rug. Sol Campbell and Panorama do more harm than good.
I'd feel many times safer in Poland or Russia than I would a country like Brazil, where the next World Cup is.
Chicken453
What u try'na say about Brasil ? what's wrong with Brasil can i ask are you white by any chance? What's wrong with Brazil? I don't know, maybe its high murder and poverty rates? What does being white have to do with anything?
I'd feel many times safer in Poland or Russia than I would a country like Brazil, where the next World Cup is.
gamerguru100
What u try'na say about Brasil ? what's wrong with Brasil can i ask are you white by any chance? What's wrong with Brazil? I don't know, maybe its high murder and poverty rates? What does being white have to do with anything? Johannesburg has the highest crime rate around and also has a high rape rate, yet i'm confused as to why someone would pick brasil?
[QUOTE="Chicken453"][QUOTE="gamerguru100"][QUOTE="Chicken453"] What u try'na say about Brasil ? what's wrong with Brasil can i ask are you white by any chance? What's wrong with Brazil? I don't know, maybe its high murder and poverty rates? What does being white have to do with anything? Johannesburg has the highest crime rate around and also has a high rape rate, yet i'm confused as to why someone would pick brasil? Because it has high rates of murder regardless of the murder rate of Johannesburg. Hey, I'd rather live in Brazil than any country in Africa. I'll give you that. :P
It's pretty common in a lot of places. Not just those two countries.
sonicare
Yes it is... It's a problem in every country... and Racism, is much more common term in US... than here.
Is there a way to just wall off these countries? If they dont see other human beings as equal, lets them seperate them from the rest of us.
Zaibach
I'm Polish and I live here since I was born... I met only ONE racist.... it's nothing common in here... trust me. Ukraine is a weird country though... But now you're being a bit Nationalistic here... :)
Last time, on the Official web of UEFA (!) they said a lot of lies about our country... that we did something to ukraine... didn't read much about that.
Here's a fact: the Brits love yellow journalism. It's in their blood. They just have to do stuff like this. Panorama is known for its idiotic tabloid stunts.
Here's another fact: football racism is a problem in all of Europe. In February David Cameron promised to crush football racism. People were arrested in the UK this year thanks to their racism directed at football players and fans.
People were complaining about German racism during the 2006 World Cup.
You can't handle this problem if you sweep it under a rug. Sol Campbell and Panorama do more harm than good.
Baranga
Have you seen that? I was offended...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJDznXsweio
Btw. Polish would never sing or hum their national anthem while pissing... that's just unacceptable.
If they dont see other human beings as equal, lets them seperate them from the rest of us.
Zaibach
might as well wall off every country. Stop pretending like its only eastern european countries that have this problem. Japan is also racist. the US is racist, France is racist, the UK, Australia, india, African countries aswell. Ukraine and Poland are in the spotlight now, but look at Brazil, they are hosting next. You are a pretty stupid person I see, making rash, ignorant statements. next time think before you post.
If they dont see other human beings as equal, lets them seperate them from the rest of us.
muscleserge
might as well wall off every country. Stop pretending like its only eastern european countries that have this problem. Japan is also racist. the US is racist, France is racist, the UK, Australia, india, African countries aswell. Ukraine and Poland are in the spotlight now, but look at Brazil, they are hosting next. You are s pretty stupid person I see, making rash, ignorant statements. next time think before you post. Agreed.
If they dont see other human beings as equal, lets them seperate them from the rest of us.
muscleserge
might as well wall off every country. Stop pretending like its only eastern european countries that have this problem. Japan is also racist. the US is racist, France is racist, the UK, Australia, india, African countries aswell. Ukraine and Poland are in the spotlight now, but look at Brazil, they are hosting next. You are a pretty stupid person I see, making rash, ignorant statements. next time think before you post.
I appreciate, thank you :)
EDIT: There are thiefs in every country in the world... There are mafias in every country in the world... There are racists in every country in the world... Etc. Etc.
I now ask rest of you...
Why do you only see the problems of other countries? Look at your country of residence first... before posting anything about others.
It's pretty common in a lot of places. Not just those two countries.
Matthew-first
Yes it is... It's a problem in every country... and Racism, is much more common term in US... than here. Imma have to call BS on that. I have spent years of my life in America and encountered racism from some individuals. I never saw a stadium full of racists. I never saw whole mobs of people making monkey noises every time a black player touched the ball. I sure as hell never saw an innocent family from india get mobbed and beaten just for being indian, in broad daylight, with nobody doing a thing to stop it.
Here's a fact: the Brits love yellow journalism. It's in their blood. They just have to do stuff like this. Panorama is known for its idiotic tabloid stunts.
Here's another fact: football racism is a problem in all of Europe. In February David Cameron promised to crush football racism. People were arrested in the UK this year thanks to their racism directed at football players and fans.
People were complaining about German racism during the 2006 World Cup.
You can't handle this problem if you sweep it under a rug. Sol Campbell and Panorama do more harm than good.
Baranga
Individuals in the UK. Thousands of chanting fans in Poland/Ukraine. Say what you want about 'the brits', does video footage not speak for itself? Did i not just watch easily two or three thousand people shouting 'ZIEG HEIL!' and doing the nazi salute? They got, on camera, innocent indian students in the family section mobbed by racists. Aren't you 'sweeping it under the rug' with posts like that?
[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Soccer and its fans suckMatthew-first
That's the best answer.
Community doesn't... but soccer is a magnet for dumbness. Its the biggest sport in the world of course there will be some bad points. Its not like this happens every day...
It's pretty common in a lot of places. Not just those two countries.
Ninja-Hippo
Yes it is... It's a problem in every country... and Racism, is much more common term in US... than here. Imma have to call BS on that. I have spent years of my life in America and encountered racism from some individuals. I never saw a stadium full of racists. I never saw whole mobs of people making monkey noises every time a black player touched the ball. I sure as hell never saw an innocent family from india get mobbed and beaten just for being indian, in broad daylight, with nobody doing a thing to stop it. Happens to whites as well. Probably much more often.
Yes it is... It's a problem in every country... and Racism, is much more common term in US... than here. jointed
Imma have to call BS on that. I have spent years of my life in America and encountered racism from some individuals. I never saw a stadium full of racists. I never saw whole mobs of people making monkey noises every time a black player touched the ball. I sure as hell never saw an innocent family from india get mobbed and beaten just for being indian, in broad daylight, with nobody doing a thing to stop it. Happens to whites as well. Probably much more often. What makes you say that?
[QUOTE="BranKetra"] What makes you say that? Because Ninja-Hippo made it sound as if racism in football is a severe problem. The problem is the perception that whites are the only ones that can be racist.
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="BranKetra"] What makes you say that? Because Ninja-Hippo made it sound as if racism in football is a severe problem. The problem is the perception that whites are the only ones that can be racist. Racism in football is a severe problem why do you think you see those STOP RACISM banners all throughout the stadium, I mean if people dressing up as Neo Nazi's and saluting doesn't make you change your mind? I don't know what will.
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="BranKetra"] What makes you say that? Because Ninja-Hippo made it sound as if racism in football is a severe problem. The problem is the perception that whites are the only ones that can be racist. At least in a few countries, it really is. Every case of racism that I've seen regarding this issue has been with them as the instigators. If there are others, I would be glad to see it. Proof speaks for itself, after all.
Racism is prevalent across Europe, not just Eastern Europe we're also talking suppposedly 'modern' countries like Spain, Italy, Greece, you'll routinely find stadiums packed full of far-right hooligans chanting abuse and Nazi slogans.
The only country in Europe where none of this really happens is the UK.
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