Video: FSA Rebels Launching Chemical Munitions

Leaked video from Syria shows FSA rebels (i.e. Obama's friends) using what appears to be a combination of a field gun and modified light artillery shells to launch chemical munitions.

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Loading a canister-bearing projectile into the launcher ... (below)

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Arming the warhead ... (below)

Ready to fire ... (below)

Fire! (below)

The image below shows a close-up of the projectiles.

"Appears", is it or it is not? Master_Live

I don't know.

Obviously a person who is hell-bent on supporting the FSA will just say that the video could have been staged by Assad's soldiers wearing civilian clothing.

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]"Appears", is it or it is not? Stesilaus

I don't know.

Obviously a person who is hell-bent on supporting the FSA will just say that the video could have been staged by Assad's soldiers wearing civilian clothing.

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]"Appears", is it or it is not? Stesilaus

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]"Appears", is it or it is not? LJS9502_basic

I don't know.

Obviously a person who is hell-bent on supporting the FSA will just say that the video could have been staged by Assad's soldiers wearing civilian clothing.

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

The purpose of the thread is to counter the crude pro-war propaganda spewing forth from CNN, MSNBC, BBC etc.

why the hell would they film such a thing? lol

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]"Appears", is it or it is not? Master_Live

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

The CIA and NSA are worth every penny that's spent on them.  They'll always find the evidence that Obama needs ... whether or not it exists.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I don't know.

Obviously a person who is hell-bent on supporting the FSA will just say that the video could have been staged by Assad's soldiers wearing civilian clothing.

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

Stesilaus

The purpose of the thread is to counter the crude pro-war propaganda spewing forth from CNN, MSNBC, BBC etc.

That looks like a "hell canon" shooting propane tanks. Propane tanks explode. Unless you can show those are indeed chemical weapons.

Look pretty close to what is used with the artillery. So most likely just modified propane tanks.

This is a no win situation, so we shouldn't be getting involved.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

I don't know.

Obviously a person who is hell-bent on supporting the FSA will just say that the video could have been staged by Assad's soldiers wearing civilian clothing.

But it's equally possible that the "intelligence" on which Obama is basing his accusations against Assad was fabricated.

Stesilaus

The purpose of the thread is to counter the crude pro-war propaganda spewing forth from CNN, MSNBC, BBC etc.

This is a no win situation, so we shouldn't be getting involved.

jimkabrhel

That looks like a "hell canon" shooting propane tanks. Propane tanks explode. Unless you can show those are indeed chemical weapons.

Look pretty close to what is used with the artillery. So most likely just modified propane tanks.

Person0

A propane tank explosion would be far less effective---as either an explosive or an incendiary---than any of the munitions that Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been giving to the FSA.

If it's a modified propane tank, then it's a propane tank that has been modified to disperse chemicals.

[QUOTE="Person0"]

That looks like a "hell canon" shooting propane tanks. Propane tanks explode. Unless you can show those are indeed chemical weapons.

Look pretty close to what is used with the artillery. So most likely just modified propane tanks.

Stesilaus

A propane tank explosion would be far less effective---as either an explosive or an incendiary---than any of the munitions that Qatar and Saudi Arabia have been giving to the FSA.

If it's a modified propane tank, then it's a propane tank that has been modified to disperse chemicals.

And how the hell do you come to the conclusion that its dispersing chemical agents? They are modified to make it someone accurate....see the fins and tail.

You don't know if those are chemical weapons, you don't know where this is, you don't know who the people in the video are and you don't know when this is.....

Person0

Well the same could be said of the "signals intelligence" and "intercepted communications" that Obama wants to use to justify a strike on the Syrian army.

We don't know where they were recorded.  We don't know who the people in the radio communications were.  We don't know when they were recorded ...

[QUOTE="Person0"]

You don't know if those are chemical weapons, you don't know where this is, you don't know who the people in the video are and you don't know when this is.....

Stesilaus

Well the same could be said of the "signals intelligence" and "intercepted communications" that Obama wants to use to justify a strike on the Syrian army.

We don't know where they were recorded.  We don't know who the people in the radio communications were.  We don't know when they were recorded ...

Calling the rest of the tin foil hat brigade. 

The last sentence of the video is very telling. They don't know if it is VX or Sarin. Do they even know for sure that what is being fired is an actual chemical weapon?

Anyone can shoot pictures of an artillery piece shooting some sort of weapon. The more telling part is that they are not wearing any sort of protection before they fire it. One would think that wearing chemical protection suits, as well as gas masks, would be imparative, especially when handling or firing it due to not wanting to die should there be an accident while preparing it to fire.

Still, no one knows that this is truly rebels or military dressed as civilians as stated previouisly.  

As much as it is hard to trust the words of the government and the media, it is just as hard to trust a video.

Like depleted uranium is any better.

War is war, what they use doesn't make it any different.

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Person0"]

You don't know if those are chemical weapons, you don't know where this is, you don't know who the people in the video are and you don't know when this is.....

Person0

Well the same could be said of the "signals intelligence" and "intercepted communications" that Obama wants to use to justify a strike on the Syrian army.

We don't know where they were recorded.  We don't know who the people in the radio communications were.  We don't know when they were recorded ...

And none of that information is any more objectively verifiable than the blurry-ass YouTube video.

I don't care.....LJS9502_basic

Took the words right out of my mouth.

why the hell would they film such a thing? lol

VaguelyTagged

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

Well the same could be said of the "signals intelligence" and "intercepted communications" that Obama wants to use to justify a strike on the Syrian army.

We don't know where they were recorded.  We don't know who the people in the radio communications were.  We don't know when they were recorded ...

Stesilaus

And none of that information is any more objectively verifiable than the blurry-ass YouTube video.

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] We have a lot more information then 1 blurry ass youtube video that is most likely just showing the rebels using a common DIY weapon that shoots propane tanks.Person0

And none of that information is any more objectively verifiable than the blurry-ass YouTube video.

They'll find it difficult.  My ouija board broke when Jesus threw a tantrum.

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

And none of that information is any more objectively verifiable than the blurry-ass YouTube video.

Stesilaus

They'll find it difficult.  My ouija board broke when Jesus threw a tantrum.

Syria is a mess.After Bush lies about Iraq we the people have fear of be misleading again.Just rememberig Lenine words ´´ASK WHO PROFITS?`` .The answer seems quite obvious ISRAEL and SAUDI ARABIA

As much as it is hard to trust the words of the government and the media, it is just as hard to trust a video.

one_plum

Syria is a mess.After Bush lies about Iraq we the people have fear of be misleading again.Just rememberig Lenine words ´´ASK WHO PROFITS?`` .The answer seems quite obvious ISRAEL and SAUDI ARABIA

delol

What lies did Bush tell us about Iraq? Is it about the claim that there were WMD found there even though Iraq Faces Major Challenges in Destroying Its Legacy Chemical Weapons that still exist and that even the US House of Representatives got a report about 500 of them found between 2003 and 2006? 

[QUOTE="delol"]

Syria is a mess.After Bush lies about Iraq we the people have fear of be misleading again.Just rememberig Lenine words ´´ASK WHO PROFITS?`` .The answer seems quite obvious ISRAEL and SAUDI ARABIA

WhiteKnight77

What lies did Bush tell us about Iraq? Is it about the claim that there were WMD found there even though Iraq Faces Major Challenges in Destroying Its Legacy Chemical Weapons that still exist and that even the US House of Representatives got a report about 500 of them found between 2003 and 2006? 

No evidence this video isnt entirely fabricated to begin with to from the FSA. No evidence those are chemical weapons. No evidence that is the FSA, could easily be Assad's men in plain clothing to avoid being blamed. 

Either way, its pointless who it was because we need to just stay the f(ck out.

Don't forget that the UN employees have stated after an investigation that they think it is very likely that the rebels have used chemical weapons. Unsurprisingly this evidence was dismissed by the USA and its axis allies. MetalGear_Ninty

The same people who won't believe any western government confirmation on Assad's use of chemical weapons are convinced by a blurry video where the projectile and those firing it cannot be verified in the slightest. Seems legit. HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]Don't forget that the UN employees have stated after an investigation that they think it is very likely that the rebels have used chemical weapons. Unsurprisingly this evidence was dismissed by the USA and its axis allies. Person0

You don't remember.Do you? C.Powell went to the U.N whit irrefutable proofs that Iraq had WMD The story had prove that he was absolutely wrong and maybe ...just maybe conscientiously lying to the world

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]Don't forget that the UN employees have stated after an investigation that they think it is very likely that the rebels have used chemical weapons. Unsurprisingly this evidence was dismissed by the USA and its axis allies. MetalGear_Ninty

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]Don't forget that the UN employees have stated after an investigation that they think it is very likely that the rebels have used chemical weapons. Unsurprisingly this evidence was dismissed by the USA and its axis allies. Person0

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]The same people who won't believe any western government confirmation on Assad's use of chemical weapons are convinced by a blurry video where the projectile and those firing it cannot be verified in the slightest. Seems legit. MetalGear_Ninty

What lies about Iraq or did you not read what I posted earlier? Why don't you find out about Bunker 13 at Muthanna.

What lies did Bush tell us about Iraq? Is it about the claim that there were WMD found there even though Iraq Faces Major Challenges in Destroying Its Legacy Chemical Weapons that still exist and that even the US House of Representatives got a report about 500 of them found between 2003 and 2006? 

WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22424188MetalGear_Ninty

She claimed she had evidence, then produced no evidence. So that's why we haven't heard any more of this since May...

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]The same people who won't believe any western government confirmation on Assad's use of chemical weapons are convinced by a blurry video where the projectile and those firing it cannot be verified in the slightest. Seems legit. MetalGear_Ninty

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="Person0"] 1 person says the rebels may have used it and she even says they don't have evidence. Just some suspicions. Hardly many UN employees saying the rebels almost definitely used chemical weapons that is just ignored. Also that is talking about a different attack before anyone uses this to say the august attack was some false flag.jimkabrhel

She claimed she had evidence, then produced no evidence. So that's why we haven't heard any more of this since May...

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] I didn't mean to say all of the UN employees or even a majority suspected this; that was a typo. There is a big difference between the words 'evidence' and 'proof'. Proof does not exist in science, only in mathematics. Carla del Ponte here claims she has some strong evidence, although of course she cannot claim proof. MetalGear_Ninty

She claimed she had evidence, then produced no evidence. So that's why we haven't heard any more of this since May...

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Why should we believe western governments that lied to us about Iraq and lied to us when they said that they were not intent on regime change in Libya? In the case of the USA, the same government that violates your fourth amendment rights with impunity.

WhiteKnight77

What lies about Iraq or did you not read what I posted earlier? Why don't you find out about Bunker 13 at Muthanna.

What lies did Bush tell us about Iraq? Is it about the claim that there were WMD found there even though Iraq Faces Major Challenges in Destroying Its Legacy Chemical Weapons that still exist and that even the US House of Representatives got a report about 500 of them found between 2003 and 2006? 

WhiteKnight77