U.S. Wars To Cost 12,000,000,000 A Month

From CNN-

In 2008, its sixth year, the war will cost approximately $12 billion a month, triple the "burn" rate of its earliest years, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph E. Stiglitz and co-author Linda J. Bilmes report in a new book.

Click Here for more info. That is an astounding number, and isn't going to help the U.S. economy pull itself out of the slump it's in.

Bush is an idiot. The americans would need those 12 billion to avoid a recession . However now hundreds of thousands of epople will be unemployed and a new depression could occur. You brought this over yourself USA.turgore

and yet they don't realize this!!

Is that a big number? I can't tell. Isn't the annual U.S. military budget for regular day-to-day activites (research, maintenance, etc.) around half a trillion dollars? If so, is an extra $12 billion a month for war expenditures really that big a deal?

EDIT: is the $12 billion entirely made up of extra costs that wouldn't be spent during peace time? Or does some of that figure represent costs that'd be paid whether or not we're in war (i.e. soldier paychecks)?

Is that a big number? I can't tell. Isn't the annual U.S. military budget for regular day-to-day activites (research, maintenance, etc.) around half a trillion dollars? If so, is an extra $12 billion a month for war expenditures really that big a deal?

Oleg_Huzwog

Yes. Our country no longer has control of its own economy. Our debt has never been higher

Our currency is low. This is a big deal.

Is that a big number? I can't tell. Isn't the annual U.S. military budget for regular day-to-day activites (research, maintenance, etc.) around half a trillion dollars? If so, is an extra $12 billion a month for war expenditures really that big a deal?

Oleg_Huzwog

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Is that a big number? I can't tell. Isn't the annual U.S. military budget for regular day-to-day activites (research, maintenance, etc.) around half a trillion dollars? If so, is an extra $12 billion a month for war expenditures really that big a deal?

Darthmatt

many would argue it a necessary expenditure for our "security". though i'm sure many ppl who can not buy food and afford shelter and health care have a slightly different view of what "security" is.

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Is that a big number? I can't tell. Isn't the annual U.S. military budget for regular day-to-day activites (research, maintenance, etc.) around half a trillion dollars? If so, is an extra $12 billion a month for war expenditures really that big a deal?

comp_atkins

many would argue it a necessary expenditure for our "security". though i'm sure many ppl who can not buy food and afford shelter and health care have a slightly different view of what "security" is.

there was no harm to could be done to our country, it was not a national security, but we still go to the ME and waste money and lives.

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

there was no harm to could be done to our country, it was not a national security, but we still go to the ME and waste money and lives.knowledge-funk

Monday morning quarterback, eh?

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Is that a big number? I can't tell. Isn't the annual U.S. military budget for regular day-to-day activites (research, maintenance, etc.) around half a trillion dollars? If so, is an extra $12 billion a month for war expenditures really that big a deal?

comp_atkins

many would argue it a necessary expenditure for our "security". though i'm sure many ppl who can not buy food and afford shelter and health care have a slightly different view of what "security" is.

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

Wow, you must love your cnn man.

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

They would be just as happy bankrupting our country and collapsing our economy. (which, by the way, they succeeded in doing to the USSR).

We are marching in the same direction!

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

Engrish_Major

They would be just as happy bankrupting our country and collapsing our economy. (which, by the way, they succeeded in doing to the USSR).

We are marching in the same direction!

Well guys remember it completely worth it; we are fighting for DEMOCRACY, yeah!knowledge-funk

Yeah ! We are going to free the **** out of iraq !

I think what a lot of people fail to understand is that they are winning just by keeping us over there fighting. It doesnt matter how much we are kicking their ass. Everytime a school isnt funded or some old person dies because their health benefits got cut they win a little bit more.

Yup. Sad isnt it. Conservatives will back a situation that is bleeding us dry for people who hate us, but pitch a hissy fit when people suggest funding projects at home that benefit the public welfare.Darthmatt

Don't worry, the magical guiding hand of the economy will save us. Just like it did all those people in 1929. Wait a sec...

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

knowledge-funk

Wow, you must love your cnn man.

Only if glenn beck's on.

I think what a lot of people fail to understand is that they are winning just by keeping us over there fighting. It doesnt matter how much we are kicking their ass. Everytime a school isnt funded or some old person dies because their health benefits got cut they win a little bit more.

Alter_Echo

"All that we have to do is to send two Mujahideen to the furthest point East to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.

... we, alongside the Mujahideen, bled Russia for ten years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat."

O bin laden. 11/04/2004

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

And have you ever stopped to wonder WHY they want to do this? Or is your answer the same as every social conservative who only thinks he knows what's up? "lolz they r jelos of our freedomz?" When that clearly isn't the case? Answer radical Islamic hatred with...war. Thus provided radical Islamists an excuse to label you as an aggressor and great enemy of Islam. Turns out Martyrs are easy to make. Especially when your society is still dominated by an archaic religious system.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

Darthmatt

This is true, i'm not disputing it. Our country needs a lot of economic reform to build strength and confidence in our economy. Actually, I ran off topic a bit because my comment was directed at the people who think surrender as advocated by the democratic congress is a good idea.

That money could be spent to provide relief here in America, god knows we got millions of homeless with no plan to do anything about them. The working poor deserve help, those who can't work because of disability deserve help, but everyone else who simply chooses not to work and wants to leech off the system should wither and starve imo.

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

do you honestly believe that pre-2003.. the nation of iraq's chief objective was to kill every man, woman and child in the US??!?!??

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

This is true, i'm not disputing it. Our country needs a lot of economic reform to build strength and confidence in our economy. Actually, I ran off topic a bit because my comment was directed at the people who think surrender as advocated by the democratic congress is a good idea.

That money could be spent to provide relief here in America, god knows we got millions of homeless with no plan to do anything about them. The working poor deserve help, those who can't work because of disability deserve help, but everyone else who simply chooses not to work and wants to leech off the system should wither and starve imo.

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

This is true, i'm not disputing it. Our country needs a lot of economic reform to build strength and confidence in our economy. Actually, I ran off topic a bit because my comment was directed at the people who think surrender as advocated by the democratic congress is a good idea.

That money could be spent to provide relief here in America, god knows we got millions of homeless with no plan to do anything about them. The working poor deserve help, those who can't work because of disability deserve help, but everyone else who simply chooses not to work and wants to leech off the system should wither and starve imo.

They're not advocating surrender.

And take Powell out of your sig. He'd never run with such a poor candidate in McCain. EVER.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

Dreams-Visions

This is true, i'm not disputing it. Our country needs a lot of economic reform to build strength and confidence in our economy. Actually, I ran off topic a bit because my comment was directed at the people who think surrender as advocated by the democratic congress is a good idea.

That money could be spent to provide relief here in America, god knows we got millions of homeless with no plan to do anything about them. The working poor deserve help, those who can't work because of disability deserve help, but everyone else who simply chooses not to work and wants to leech off the system should wither and starve imo.

They're not advocating surrender.

And take Powell out of your sig. He'd never run with such a poor candidate in McCain. EVER.

Please tell me what turning tail and running away is then? We leave now and there will be a political vacuum. Your liberal candidates won't pull the troops out, they can't.

So just sit back in your chair and continue critiquing the war and spending, because no matter who is president, we'll be there for the next 100 years.

man i could do with one hundredth of that a year...

I think they should be generous and shgare out the cash!

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

comp_atkins

do you honestly believe that pre-2003.. the nation of iraq's chief objective was to kill every man, woman and child in the US??!?!??

he got his facts from his imagination, i would just ignor them.

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]Yup. Sad isnt it. Conservatives will back a situation that is bleeding us dry for people who hate us, but pitch a hissy fit when people suggest funding projects at home that benefit the public welfare.CaptHawkeye

Don't worry, the magical guiding hand of the economy will save us. Just like it did all those people in 1929. Wait a sec...

Please tell me what turning tail and running away is then? We leave now and there will be a political vacuum. Your liberal candidates won't pull the troops out, they can't.

So just sit back in your chair and continue critiquing the war and spending, because no matter who is president, we'll be there for the next 100 years.

cametall

lollerskates.

Tell me which Democratic candidate is talking about pulling 100% of our troops out.

Tell me which Democratic candidate is planning on stopping the War on Terror

Tell me which Democratic candidate is talking about leaving "now".

The answer is NONE.

They've neither recommended nor suggested they have any such intention. They will, however begin to draw down over the next couple of years and repirotize them to Afganistan (where they should have never left). Special forces will be left behind around 2010 to handle any small spurts of terrorist action.

And if you think we will or will need to keep 100,000 of our fighting forces and brigades in Iraq for 100 years, I have a mountain in Florida that I'd like to sell you. That concept (blissfully ignorant as it is) represents the reason why McCain will not win the general election anyway.

How in the hell is this extra bill going to help us out. All the more reason to pull out and rethink our policies. The so called "threat" has been taken cared of. No?

I don't understand, well yes I do(terrorist blah blah blah), I don't understand why we continue to fight a war and continue to spend money that America doesn't have.

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

lol, little info for yeah , the terrorist who attacked on 9/11, you know the ones who are willing and did attack the US, they arent in Iraq....

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

SaintLeonidas

lol, little info for yeah , the terrorist who attacked on 9/11, you know the ones who are willing and did attack the US, they arent in Iraq....

So that makes this the second-most expensive war in history?

Now all we need to do is trump WWII and we'll be in Guinness!:D

I bet that's the plan.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

comp_atkins

do you honestly believe that pre-2003.. the nation of iraq's chief objective was to kill every man, woman and child in the US??!?!??

Saddam was agressively pursuing means of delivering chemical and biological weapons and the country was harboring terrorists. Iraqs sole objective wasn't to kill every man, woman and child in the US, but they certainly enabled terrorists who's sole goal is achieve this.

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

CaptHawkeye

And have you ever stopped to wonder WHY they want to do this? Or is your answer the same as every social conservative who only thinks he knows what's up? "lolz they r jelos of our freedomz?" When that clearly isn't the case? Answer radical Islamic hatred with...war. Thus provided radical Islamists an excuse to label you as an aggressor and great enemy of Islam. Turns out Martyrs are easy to make. Especially when your society is still dominated by an archaic religious system.

I've never disputed the reason of their cause. But what do you advocate we do instead, simply talk reason to terrorists and they'll see the error of their ways? How about we just ignore them, maybe then they'll play nice? :roll:

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

SaintLeonidas

lol, little info for yeah , the terrorist who attacked on 9/11, you know the ones who are willing and did attack the US, they arent in Iraq....

Iraq harbored radical islamic extremists, much like Iran, syria, and dozens of other countries around the world.

It's ok! BUSH is on the JOB!

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="MarineJcksn"]

I love how you liberals think we can just surrender in Iraq and keep this nation safe. When will it get through to you that we're facing an enemy who wants to kill every living American?

Ya'll need to wake up.

MarineJcksn

do you honestly believe that pre-2003.. the nation of iraq's chief objective was to kill every man, woman and child in the US??!?!??

Saddam was agressively pursuing means of delivering chemical and biological weapons and the country was harboring terrorists. Iraqs sole objective wasn't to kill every man, woman and child in the US, but they certainly enabled terrorists who's sole goal is achieve this.