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#1 TheGreatGoomba
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Go to youtube.com and search for Madvillain-All Caps. It shows that not all rap is about hot women, money, or saying how cool the artist is. I hope I change your view on the rap genre if you think what the topic title says.
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#2 Serial-No_3404
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i just miss the 90s rap...those were good...i just dont like the ones now...doesnt appeal to me
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#3 Kikouken
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You can just look at Tupac and say the same thing.

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#4 TheHimura
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People are too close-minded to go check. Just look at some of the reponses that are going to come up, such as "u kant spel crap without rap lolololol"
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#5 guitargoddess17
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The answer to this thread.
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#6 skullkrusher13
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we know, we know.Most Mainstream rap is mindless crap

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#8 RBB192
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Go to youtube.com and search for Madvillain-All Caps. It shows that not all rap is about hot women, money, or saying how cool the artist is. I hope I change your view on the rap genre if you think what the topic title says. TheGreatGoomba

I like DangerDoom the most... it goes like Dangerdoom > MF DOOM > Madvillian.... or wait. Madvillian is madlib and MF right? Madlib is cool, but I don't like the combo

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#9 wrlyy
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or saying how cool the artist is. TheGreatGoomba

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what All Caps is about, chief.

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#10 Rob2223
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ALSO! watch these if you are a rap music fan! :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7aBAewIKQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s20W2FAuHlg



you wont be disappointed.
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#11 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"]or saying how cool the artist is. wrlyy

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what All Caps is about, chief.



no its not :|

"Spot hot tracks like spot a pair of fat asses
Shots of the scotch from out of square shot glasses
And he won't stop 'till he got the masses
An' show 'em what they know now through flows of hot molasses

Do it like a robot to headspin to boogaloo
Took a few minutes to convince the average bug-a-boo
It's ugly, like look at you! It's a damn shame
Just remember All Caps when you spell the man name"
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#12 Megadeth425
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Uh, you do know people hate rap for reasons beyond mainstream lyrics, right? Watched it, and I think no differently of rap.
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#13 TheGreatGoomba
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  1. No I won't waste my time to llisten to rap
  2. I still hate Rap
  3. I hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo
o_sausage
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.
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#14 BrokenDreams13
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Not all rap is mindless crap, like this song.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

That song points out a lot of problems in our culture today, and it's also quite funny. :)

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#15 wrlyy
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[QUOTE="wrlyy"]

[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"]or saying how cool the artist is. Rob2223

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what All Caps is about, chief.



no its not :|

"Spot hot tracks like spot a pair of fat asses
Shots of the scotch from out of square shot glasses
And he won't stop 'till he got the masses
An' show 'em what they know now through flows of hot molasses

Do it like a robot to headspin to boogaloo
Took a few minutes to convince the average bug-a-boo
It's ugly, like look at you! It's a damn shame
Just remember All Caps when you spell the man name"


uh huh, what is that about if not MF DOOM?
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  1. No I won't waste my time to llisten to rap
  2. I still hate Rap
  3. I hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo

o_sausage

Here's another one. He probably has only heard a bunch of crap from people like T-Pain and 50 Cent, so he doesn't want to hear anything else (even if people say it's good), because he thinks it's just going to be a dude talking fast over a beat, and that he won't like it.

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#17 TheGreatGoomba
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Uh, you do know people hate rap for reasons beyond mainstream lyrics, right? Watched it, and I think no differently of rap.Megadeth425
I do know. Even though your opinion remains unchanged I thank you for watching. :)
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#18 Megadeth425
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[QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo TheGreatGoomba
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.
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[QUOTE="o_sausage"]
  1. No I won't waste my time to llisten to rap
  2. I still hate Rap
  3. I hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo

TheHimura

Here's another one. He probably has only heard a bunch of crap from people like T-Pain and 50 Cent, so he doesn't want to hear anything else (even if people say it's good), because he thinks it's just going to be a dude talking fast over a beat, and that he won't like it.

Actually no. I've heard alot of rap I just don't like it the music I like is referred to as classic rock. They are complete opposites
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#20 TheMutableOne
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Why is it that rap fans on hereare always trying to prove what the music is instead of just listening to it, and enjoying it, and not caring what anyone elseis thinkingabout it?

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#21 TheGreatGoomba
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo Megadeth425
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.
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#22 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="wrlyy"]

[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"]or saying how cool the artist is. wrlyy

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what All Caps is about, chief.



no its not :|

"Spot hot tracks like spot a pair of fat asses
Shots of the scotch from out of square shot glasses
And he won't stop 'till he got the masses
An' show 'em what they know now through flows of hot molasses

Do it like a robot to headspin to boogaloo
Took a few minutes to convince the average bug-a-boo
It's ugly, like look at you! It's a damn shame
Just remember All Caps when you spell the man name"


uh huh, what is that about if not MF DOOM?



:| all rap somehow glorifies themselves. its not like hes sayin "yo im rich, look at my cadillac, i own"
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#23 TheHimura
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Why is it that rap fans on hereare always trying to prove what the music is instead of just listening to it, and enjoying it, and not caring what anyone elseis thinkingabout it?

TheMutableOne

Ah, you're right. I'll quit. If it isn't what what they like, I shouldn't argue about it.

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#24 schoeffmaster
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No...I dont want to...I prefer music...not beats...:|

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#25 TheMutableOne
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[QUOTE="TheMutableOne"]

Why is it that rap fans on hereare always trying to prove what the music is instead of just listening to it, and enjoying it, and not caring what anyone elseis thinkingabout it?

TheHimura

Ah, you're right. I'll quit. If it isn't what what they like, I shouldn't argue about it.

Arguing any music is senseless really. You can't force it on anyone. You just have to to put it out there and let them react to it how they will. People are either going to connect with it, or not..
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:| all rap somehow glorifies themselves. its not like hes sayin "yo im rich, look at my cadillac, i own"Rob2223

Nice backpedal.
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[QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo TheGreatGoomba
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

I find my opinion to be very good. Also not all rap songs are someone talking fast to a beat I've heard people talk slow to a beat. But still whoop-de-f******-do. All I have to do is write a poem, add in a few cuss/slang words mix beat on my comp and talk to it and I'm a rapper.

BTW I'm going to sleep now. Yell at me over the internet all you want to. I'll read it tommorrow... maybe. I'm a very busy man. I've got to earn another 500,000 pesentas in RE4 so I can get the tommy gun

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#28 TheGreatGoomba
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Why is it that rap fans on hereare always trying to prove what the music is instead of just listening to it, and enjoying it, and not caring what anyone elseis thinkingabout it?

TheMutableOne
Because when you hear "Oh rap is so stupid!" "I know you can`t spell rap without crap hahaha!" All the time, It tends to get on ones nerves, ya know what I`m saying? For the record this isn`t a whole rap>rock thing, I listen to many rock artists as well.
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#29 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| all rap somehow glorifies themselves. its not like hes sayin "yo im rich, look at my cadillac, i own"wrlyy

Nice backpedal.



:| wow. ok whatever there's no convining. keep being narrow minded.
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#30 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo o_sausage

I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

I find my opinion to be very good. Also not all rap songs are someone talking fast to a beat I've heard people talk slow to a beat. But still whoop-de-f******-do. All I have to do is write a poem, add in a few cuss/slang words mix beat on my comp and talk to it and I'm a rapper.

BTW I'm going to sleep now. Yell at me over the internet all you want to. I'll read it tommorrow... maybe. I'm a very busy man. I've got to earn another 500,000 pesentas in RE4 so I can get the tommy gun



k, go write me a rap song, add a beat, and post it on youtube.
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[QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo TheGreatGoomba
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

But he's stated he doesn't like it. I don't see why he should be more open-minded about music he doesn't like.
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo o_sausage

I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

I find my opinion to be very good. Also not all rap songs are someone talking fast to a beat I've heard people talk slow to a beat. But still whoop-de-f******-do. All I have to do is write a poem, add in a few cuss/slang words mix beat on my comp and talk to it and I'm a rapper.

BTW I'm going to sleep now. Yell at me over the internet all you want to. I'll read it tommorrow... maybe. I'm a very busy man. I've got to earn another 500,000 pesentas in RE4 so I can get the tommy gun

Ok. Like I said, I respect your opinion.
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#33 Rob2223
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No...I dont want to...I prefer music...not beats...:|

schoeffmaster


THIS JUST IN: alot of Rap uses guitars, bass guitars, pianos, flutes, drums

but you havent heard it, because you only have heard fiddy cent.
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo o_sausage

I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

I find my opinion to be very good. Also not all rap songs are someone talking fast to a beat I've heard people talk slow to a beat. But still whoop-de-f******-do. All I have to do is write a poem, add in a few cuss/slang words mix beat on my comp and talk to it and I'm a rapper.

BTW I'm going to sleep now. Yell at me over the internet all you want to. I'll read it tommorrow... maybe. I'm a very busy man. I've got to earn another 500,000 pesentas in RE4 so I can get the tommy gun

Haha, the Tommy Gun is so cheap, but it's really fun to use. Once you get it, the rest of the game is so easy.

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#35 wrlyy
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[QUOTE="wrlyy"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| all rap somehow glorifies themselves. its not like hes sayin "yo im rich, look at my cadillac, i own"Rob2223

Nice backpedal.



:| wow. ok whatever there's no convining. keep being narrow minded.


Which is funny because I really like rap and Madvillain and never said otherwise. I was just picking apart the OP and saying that was a bad example.

Keep fighting the musical battle, soldier.
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#36 TheMutableOne
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[QUOTE="TheMutableOne"]

Why is it that rap fans on hereare always trying to prove what the music is instead of just listening to it, and enjoying it, and not caring what anyone elseis thinkingabout it?

TheGreatGoomba
Because when you hear "Oh rap is so stupid!" "I know you can`t spell rap without crap hahaha!" All the time, It tends to get on ones nerves, ya know what I`m saying? For the record this isn`t a whole rap>rock thing, I listen to many rock artists as well.

No I don't know what you're saying. I listen to some rap music here and there, and I'm in no way offended. I don't give a **** if people aren't into the samemusic I am.
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i just miss the 90s rap...those were good...i just dont like the ones now...doesnt appeal to meSerial-No_3404
yeah i miss old school rap
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#38 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="Rob2223"][QUOTE="wrlyy"][QUOTE="Rob2223"]

:| all rap somehow glorifies themselves. its not like hes sayin "yo im rich, look at my cadillac, i own"wrlyy

Nice backpedal.



:| wow. ok whatever there's no convining. keep being narrow minded.


Which is funny because I really like rap and Madvillain and never said otherwise. I was just picking apart the OP and saying that was a bad example.

Keep fighting the musical battle, soldier.



:lol: ok....im kinda aggressive today, lotsa arguements. it wasnt the best example, gym class heroes are a better one.
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#39 maddnica23
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Rap is not mindless

it comes from the soul

true words spoken

so a story can be told

a way to freestlye

and express your feelings

not like rock where everything is screaming

you listen to the beat

and you make up rhymes

its just like poetry

and it aint no lie

BTW yea i know this rap sucks, sounds more like a poem, jsut imagine theres beats in there, and you have rap. Poems+Music=Rap

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#40 Rob2223
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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]i just miss the 90s rap...those were good...i just dont like the ones now...doesnt appeal to memonkey2go
yeah i miss old school rap



lots of relativley new artists have old school R@P, seriously listen to some "Del Tha Funkee Homosapien" and you'll know what im talkin about, if you like old school get some of his tunes


you just haveta find them
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#41 Megadeth425
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Yes, rock is all screaming. All rock is just screaming.
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#42 Rob2223
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Yes, rock is all screaming. All rock is just screaming.Megadeth425


pretty sure he was joking....
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo Megadeth425
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

But he's stated he doesn't like it. I don't see why he should be more open-minded about music he doesn't like.

Tell me, what genre do you like? Have you heard a couple songs in this genre you don`t like? You could say that you do like this genre and most of the songs in it, but a few songs you`ve heard in the genre you dislike. Well perhaps rap is the opposite for you. You dislike most songs in the genre, but keep open minded and find that infact some rap songs are good. That`s what I`m trying to get across.
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#44 TheHimura
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[QUOTE="Serial-No_3404"]i just miss the 90s rap...those were good...i just dont like the ones now...doesnt appeal to memonkey2go
yeah i miss old school rap

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[QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo TheGreatGoomba
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

But he's stated he doesn't like it. I don't see why he should be more open-minded about music he doesn't like.

Tell me, what genre do you like? Have you heard a couple songs in this genre you don`t like? You could say that you do like this genre and most of the songs in it, but a few songs you`ve heard in the genre you dislike. Well perhaps rap is the opposite for you. You dislike most songs in the genre, but keep open minded and find that infact some rap songs are good. That`s what I`m trying to get across.

I like metal, classic rock, jazz, blues, and classical. Yes, I've heard many rap songs, being one of the few people in my area and school to not like rap. I've been exposed to mainstream, old-school, underground...the whole spectrum. And, after all this exposure, I can safely say there is no rap that I like. Could very well be the same for him.
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[QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="Megadeth425"][QUOTE="TheGreatGoomba"][QUOTE="o_sausage"]No I won't waste my time to llisten to rapI still hate RapI hate it for a variety of reasons not just becuase it's all about hos, money and drugs but also becuase it's a dude talking fast to a beat. Honestly whoop-de-f******-doo Megadeth425
I respect your opinion, but please, be more open minded than that.

So you respect his opinion, but want him to be more open-minded about music he doesn't like? Seems a bit too contradictory.

Yeah, I respect his opinion, but that doesn`t mean i like his opinion. So i asked if he could be more open minded about rap.

But he's stated he doesn't like it. I don't see why he should be more open-minded about music he doesn't like.

Tell me, what genre do you like? Have you heard a couple songs in this genre you don`t like? You could say that you do like this genre and most of the songs in it, but a few songs you`ve heard in the genre you dislike. Well perhaps rap is the opposite for you. You dislike most songs in the genre, but keep open minded and find that infact some rap songs are good. That`s what I`m trying to get across.

I like metal, classic rock, jazz, blues, and classical. Yes, I've heard many rap songs, being one of the few people in my area and school to not like rap. I've been exposed to mainstream, old-school, underground...the whole spectrum. And, after all this exposure, I can safely say there is no rap that I like. Could very well be the same for him.

alright then. But I have a question, did you listen to the song?
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#47 Megadeth425
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If you look at my post on the first page, I say that I heard the song.
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#48 TheGreatGoomba
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If you look at my post on the first page, I say that I heard the song.Megadeth425
And clearly didn`t like it, huh? :) That`s ok. I`m not gonna force anything on you.
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#49 TheMutableOne
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Rap is not mindless

it comes from the soul

true words spoken

so a story can be told

a way to freestlye

and express your feelings

not like rock where everything is screaming

you listen to the beat

and you make up rhymes

its just like poetry

and it aint no lie

BTW yea i know this rap sucks, sounds more like a poem, jsut imagine theres beats in there, and you have rap. Poems+Music=Rap

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You are missing the point though. The reason I started getting away from rap, was because of how focused the artists are on the lyrics. Most of the time the artists will put a simple and quick beat, and then get to the lyrics.I listen to music for music. If I want to hear an almost total focus onlyrics I'll go to a spoken word joint or a Def Jam Poetry session... or listenthe occasional rap song. The actual music in rap gets very repetitive. The song is almost always on the 4, and never really goes beyond that.
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#50 Rob2223
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EDIT: :roll: glitchspot.