The U.S. has been helping their people... ex: Iraq. Also, even modernized Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and such are backwards. Fact is, the Middle East is full of backwards people, and as a result, it's a sh*thole. History has proven this, the ME is not a peaceful place.
Stop removing personal responsibility from the issue. They reason the ME is a sh*thole is because of themselves, and they have to man up and accept it.
True story: The Middle East as a whole is probably gay according a prospective, randomized, double-blinded, placebo-controlled study at Harvard University. Widespread speculation blames the prophet Brohammed (PBUH) for this inexplicable f*****ry. More at happy hour.
The U.S. has been helping their people... ex: Iraq. Also, even modernized Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and such are backwards. Fact is, the Middle East is full of backwards people, and as a result, it's a sh*thole. History has proven this, the ME is not a peaceful place.
Stop removing personal responsibility from the issue. They reason the ME is a sh*thole is because of themselves, and they have to man up and accept it.
The U.S. has been helping their people... ex: Iraq. Also, even modernized Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and such are backwards. Fact is, the Middle East is full of backwards people, and as a result, it's a sh*thole. History has proven this, the ME is not a peaceful place.
Stop removing personal responsibility from the issue. They reason the ME is a sh*thole is because of themselves, and they have to man up and accept it.
Liberals always love removing personal responsiblity from the issue, whether it be in economics or in foreign policy. Fact is, it's your fault for the situtation you're in, not someone else's. Stop f*cking blaming people and countries like America (who btw help you) for your failures. Stop being a p*ssy, man up, accept your failures, and move on.
The chain of causality, by and large, seems to be multifactorial (ranked by relevance): DIPLOMACY WARS: COLD WAR EDITION, Israel, Islam, oil, culture clash.
We gave them democracy. If that's not helping, I don't know what is.How do you explain overthrowing the Iranian government and installing a Western puppet?
Excellent rebuttal. Accept that your country's faults are because of your people (not America) and move the f*ck on.
...... Huh what? The United States and West are far more responisble for spreading dictatorships, and supporting authortarian rule than they have ever been with supporting and creating democracy in regions like the Middle East..
Liberals always love removing personal responsiblity from the issue, whether it be in economics or in foreign policy. Fact is, it's your fault for the situtation you're in, not someone else's. Stop f*cking blaming people and countries like America (who btw help you) for your failures. Stop being a p*ssy, man up, accept your failures, and move on.
kingkong0124
"Who's fault is it then? Ours our theirs?" A lot of it is our fault. That is the point. Do they have an obligation to their country, duh, which is what they are trying to do with the Arab spring. Let's talk about history, a country that gets to be a thriving nation takes many many years, you comparing it to other countries that have developed over time with not only time and money, but with a great infrastructure and a support group helping them.
We gave them democracy. If that's not helping, I don't know what is.How do you explain overthrowing the Iranian government and installing a Western puppet?
Excellent rebuttal. Accept that your country's faults are because of your people (not America) and move the f*ck on.
...... Huh what? The United States and West are far more responisble for spreading dictatorships, and supporting authortarian rule than they have ever been with supporting and creating democracy in regions like the Middle East..
You're talking about the past dude. Look at Libya in the present. We helped kill Gaddafi, and now these people want to start a Sharia-Law pseudo-democracy. They're fvcking themselves up, not us.
The U.S. has been helping their people... ex: Iraq. Also, even modernized Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and such are backwards. Fact is, the Middle East is full of backwards people, and as a result, it's a sh*thole. History has proven this, the ME is not a peaceful place.
Stop removing personal responsibility from the issue. They reason the ME is a sh*thole is because of themselves, and they have to man up and accept it.
BossPerson
....The U.S helped Iraq? LOL So when Bush made everyone in the Western World believe for 5 years that those people were pure evil and the Leading Generals told me before i marched in that we were in hell and shoot first ask questions later we were helping? We literally went in there looking for people but killed more innocent people then the first bomb we dropped in Japan. Then we tried to remove their culture in later years and establish control of how to make their government, and taking oil and when America started realizing, or at least a 3rd of America :lol: realized what we were doing and started complain, the EU followed and we started talking about withdrawing. But more like withdrawing to other ME countries to try and control anyway. Also it didn't work. At this point most of America still thinks those people are hell again, and they are not helping buy looking at a video making fun of them and they reacting the same way as in the video. If we did help them at all it's pointless in every way since there's nothing to show for it.
The USA can do whatever the f*ck it wants, like it or not.
kingkong0124
Damn straight, skippy.
ALSO: Something about us not getting oil from Libya, pursuing Al Qaida, dethroning Soviet-backed regimes, OR building military bases strikes me as interesting.
Excellent rebuttal. Accept that your country's faults are because of your people (not America) and move the f*ck on.
kingkong0124
...... Huh what? The United States and West are far more responisble for spreading dictatorships, and supporting authortarian rule than they have ever been with supporting and creating democracy in regions like the Middle East..
You're talking about the past dude. Look at Libya in the present. We helped kill Gaddafi, and now these people want to start a Sharia-Law pseudo-democracy. They're fvcking themselves up, not us.
We knew this before we killed Gadaffi, which we put there. U.S. troops and AQlqaeda/Terrorists helping people "remove" dictators with no plans and the fact before then they were nuts was apparently approved. People actually though this would work? Helping Kill Gaddafi was the dumbest thing we could have done, we just helped spread ignorance, and now who's in charge? No one, but I know what groups are manipulating the people into doing things like blowing up embassy's.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"] Maybe its both .The usa should learn to stay the fuc out off other countries businessEmpCom
The USA can do whatever the f*ck it wants, like it or not. Fact is, stop blaming others for your failures. Accept personal responsibility. Man up.
Yeah the usa can do whatever the fuc it wants and its never its fault when everything goes to hell, The U.S. largely helped these countries....stop acting like the U.S. is like Satan. And look at the Arab Spring. This is what they do when they get democracy by themselves - they start up pseudo-democracies with the implementation of sharia law and other backwards ideologies.
Excellent rebuttal. Accept that your country's faults are because of your people (not America) and move the f*ck on.
kingkong0124
Maybe its both .The usa should learn to stay the fuc out off other countries business
The USA can do whatever the f*ck it wants, like it or not. Fact is, stop blaming others for your failures. Accept personal responsibility. Man up.
"stop blaming others for your failures" Even though there is blame to the US for their failures? Nice logic there. "Man up." This isn't a football team, these are people's lives, many have been tormented through the things that we have affected over there (like Iraq for instance). This isn't some sort of game, this is their lives, and they are dealing with the effects of the events that have transpired over the past 50 years.
The USA can do whatever the f*ck it wants, like it or not. Fact is, stop blaming others for your failures. Accept personal responsibility. Man up.
Yeah the usa can do whatever the fuc it wants and its never its fault when everything goes to hell, The U.S. largely helped these countries....stop acting like the U.S. is like Satan. And look at the Arab Spring. This is what they do when they get democracy by themselves - they start up pseudo-democracies with the implementation of sharia law and other backwards ideologies. Their choice not yours
There is little to blame to the U.S. (if anything at all). I'm quite sorry that they're losing their lives. But people need to stand up to these authoritarian regimes. Oh and when they do, please don't start up f*cked up pseudo-democracies.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"] Yeah the usa can do whatever the fuc it wants and its never its fault when everything goes to hell, EmpCom
The U.S. largely helped these countries....stop acting like the U.S. is like Satan. And look at the Arab Spring. This is what they do when they get democracy by themselves - they start up pseudo-democracies with the implementation of sharia law and other backwards ideologies. Their choice not yours
Their choice will continue the cycle of backwardsness.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"] Yeah the usa can do whatever the fuc it wants and its never its fault when everything goes to hell, EmpCom
The U.S. largely helped these countries....stop acting like the U.S. is like Satan. And look at the Arab Spring. This is what they do when they get democracy by themselves - they start up pseudo-democracies with the implementation of sharia law and other backwards ideologies. Their choice not yours
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I would not exactly describe Sharia law as a choice by those who are oppressed by it.
The real problem with the U.S. from a standpoint of human welfare, at least in Iraq, is the blood shed to get it where it is now.
[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] The U.S. largely helped these countries....stop acting like the U.S. is like Satan. And look at the Arab Spring. This is what they do when they get democracy by themselves - they start up pseudo-democracies with the implementation of sharia law and other backwards ideologies.
Their choice not yours
Their choice will continue the cycle of backwardsness.
There is little to blame to the U.S. (if anything at all). I'm quite sorry that they're losing their lives. But people need to stand up to these authoritarian regimes. Oh and when they do, please don't start up f*cked up pseudo-democracies.
Plz stfu u are a proper embarrassment to our nation your logic is the reason we got into iraq ( Bush cowboy polotics).
Maybe if the U.S. hadn't been proping up dicators for decades they woudln't hate the U.S. so much. Maybe if the U.S. wasn't using killing 100's of innocent people they wouldn't hate the U.S. You can't blame them for hating the U.S. it has done a lot of terrible things in the Middle-East and the rest of the world.
There is little to blame to the U.S. (if anything at all). I'm quite sorry that they're losing their lives. But people need to stand up to these authoritarian regimes. Oh and when they do, please don't start up f*cked up pseudo-democracies.
Allthishate
Plz stfu u are a proper embarrassment to our nation your logic is the reason we got into iraq ( Bush cowboy polotics).
I'll say what I want - freedom of speech. Nice rebuttal, idiot.
The USA can do whatever the f*ck it wants, like it or not. Fact is, stop blaming others for your failures. Accept personal responsibility. Man up.
kingkong0124
Yeah the usa can do whatever the fuc it wants and its never its fault when everything goes to hell, The U.S. largely helped these countries....stop acting like the U.S. is like Satan. And look at the Arab Spring. This is what they do when they get democracy by themselves - they start up pseudo-democracies with the implementation of sharia law and other backwards ideologies. okay....and the iraq government is some beacon of light? Its an elected authoritarian regime.
Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr"
They hate Israel because they are anti-semitic. And they hate the US in part because we put dictators there, but also because they are brainwashed to hate it. They think the US is the Great Devil of the World.
Many people on Off Topic seem to have a similar attitude unfortunately. They are just kids trying to be cool, they'll grow up eventually.
[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Would take me pages to tell you all of it, but uh..... despite what you think, it's not as simple as "durr hurr they hate u.s/israel because of jealously. hurr" McainTehNub
They hate Israel because they are anti-semitic. And they hate the US in part because we put dictators there, but also because they are brainwashed to hate it. They think the US is the Great Devil of the World.
Many people on Off Topic seem to have a similar attitude unfortunately. They are just kids trying to be cool, they'll grow up eventually.
Arabs are semites.
No sh*t...it's pretty obvious what he meant though.
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