[SPOILERS]Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows Part One. Does it fail

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The Harry Potter Franchise has been strong. A true saga written from the imaginative mind of J.K. Rowling spawning the success of several movies to take on the adaptation of the books.


There's plenty of magic and pop-culture magnetism, where an audience feels attached to Harry James Potter, Ronald Wesley, and Hermione Granger.



The two ending movies has plenty of pressure from movie goers to be epic, grand, and overall satisfying with magical expectations that no wizard can ever conjurer. It is one with incantations of long Latin based words, sighted with wand in hand.



As with any Harry Potter movie, the atmosphere of these last two movies hasn't lost any splendor of the Potter universe, even with the grim and serious tone that of the Deathly Hallows.



The tale of three brothers who sought a means of cheating death, with a delightful ability of creating a bridge, with their imagination to cross the other side, with weaving vine, root, and branching out, hath Death scoff to foil with cunning wit.

"Death be not proud, for some call me mighty and dreadful, art no so."


Death granted the three brothers the gift of riches and choice. One brother sought a powerful deadly wand that is lusted, feared, eventually taken by foe, after the brother murdered, and boasted of how invincible he was. The first brother died as he feel asleep, slain by another. The second brother wanted the gift of necro-observation-- the glancing of loved ones that have past to the neatherealm. Death gave this man the gift of an illusive experience of communicating with the dead through imagination, that the second brother drove himself mad. The final brother sought none of the folly of man. Only the cloak of death himself, to be invisible from death until a lifespan was fullfilled should he give his cloak to his own flesh and blood, and accept gladly his mortal fate the journey with death.


The order of the Phoenix--- the very symbol of an Egyptian bird, is one that dies and blazes away into a perpetual cycle of rebirth only to die and so forth--a path way against the Dark Lord, whence Voldemort and Harry are themselves the Horicrux and not objects alone are to be only considered as such.


Harry doesn't realize it yet, but to kill Voldemort, he must first die himself. It was the love of Harry's mom, that prevented the fatality of Harry, with the sacrifice of parental catering against the darklord, with their effort of protecting their only son. The theme is sacrifice. Power and magic isn't enough. But it is the very nature of sacrifice that is the ending result which is how Dolby met his death with his loving protection whilst saving Harry, Luna, Ron, and Hermione



The movie isn't about special effects. The direction is solidified with great carefulness where Voldemort grasp Professor Dumbledore's wand. A wand so powerful that even Voldemort hasn't a clue of it's potential as he laughs holding the essence of its power in a dark cold night, at the small island of the late Dumbledore.

If not a ether-realm of two universes where magic and reality clash. Where the ministry of magic, at odds with the normality of the muggles- the half breed of wizard and human, against the prejudice of the true-blood, bias of a full wizard of rite.



The locations are dramatic, gleaming the valleys of several highlands, to the icy forest covered with snow. It is nothing more than breathtaking, and it is the prelude to a movement that will intensify with some huge climax.


The movie leaves you wanting more--- making you feel like your interruption from actual reality unfair. This is a good thing. This is truly what I want before the finale.


To resolve the inevitable is to except complete self-destruction and sacrifice.




The actors Daniel, Emma, and Rupert should hail this project as the beginning of their careers by its seriousness.

My opinion of their acting ****is that they really give you that illusion that they are the characters and that they believe in their character. It translates with their puberty and coming of age as they are now adults. The dialog is believable. The music is a fulfillment of the tension and nature of the characters during scenario and location. There is balance. It is like no scale I've seen where a paperweight or feather easily out do each other due to the mass by its pound, ounce, or matter.
It is balance with adult complexity where Harry struggles to find himself has he reminisces about his part experiences.




For the first time, Harry has to make adult decisions with out the guidance of his elders. He finally is truly a wizard, even without his original wand.


Perhaps this story is more about excepting the tact of adapting to a difficult decision as it's theme. The crafting of a man and the understanding behind the things taught at Hogwarts.



The finale is coming soon. 2011 is almost here. July assumed. Probably pushed back to another date. To be announced..

your review - if it's yours - is mostly a story recap and is thus full of major spoilers. please modify accordingly.

on topic - i don't like it. I've always thought Yates to be the weakest Potter film director, and his shortcomings show prominently in this latest installment. he's good with creating memorable moments through slick cinematography and setpieces, which Deathly Hallows has no lack of. but the film is ultimately bogged down by his inconsistent pacing and weak narrative. i am, once again, sorely disappointed.

PS. that particular scene - you know what - is disgusting to no end and has no business being in a Potter film. i have no problem with gore and violence, but that? that is freaking ridiculous.

there are pacing issues. see? we can go about doing this all day if all you bother is to say no to yes. what i see is crystal clear though - Yates' obsession with moments and visual effects have resulted in his lack of finer touches in narrative that so defines Rowling's books.

PS. not in that way. i'm looking at page 306 and 7 now so don't think you can bluff your way outta this.

PPS. to give credit where it's due - once again the stellar cast did a fantastic job, and provided the film its saving grace.

there are pacing issues. see? we can go about doing this all day if all you bother is to say no to yes. what i see is crystal clear though - Yates' obsession with moments and visual effects have resulted in his lack of finer touches in narrative that so defines Rowling's books.

PS. not in that way. i'm looking at page 306 and 7 now so don't think you can bluff your way outta this.

PPS. to give credit where it's due - once again the stellar cast did a fantastic job, and provided the film its saving grace.

I don't think people around here know what "pacing issues" actually means. The movie's plot moved forward at a pace that was both engaging and thoughtful and I, as someone who had to read the final two books, was still completely able to understand and follow the plot.I'm certain there were a few pages, but in the end, judging it solely as a movie and not some sort of 100% media translation of another format, the movie was highly successful in what it attempted, in my eyes.hokies1313

No, it doesn't fail at all; it was fanstastic (Should've been longer, but still great). And Emma Watson was really cute. :oops:
On a side-note, I don't understand your poll at all.

[QUOTE="hokies1313"]I don't think people around here know what "pacing issues" actually means. The movie's plot moved forward at a pace that was both engaging and thoughtful and I, as someone who had to read the final two books, was still completely able to understand and follow the plot.I'm certain there were a few pages, but in the end, judging it solely as a movie and not some sort of 100% media translation of another format, the movie was highly successful in what it attempted, in my eyes.kamikaze_pigmy

I don't think people around here know what "pacing issues" actually means. The movie's plot moved forward at a pace that was both engaging and thoughtful and I, as someone who had to read the final two books, was still completely able to understand and follow the plot. I'm certain there were a few pages, but in the end, judging it solely as a movie and not some sort of 100% media translation of another format, the movie was highly successful in what it attempted, in my eyes.hokies1313

And what does it actually mean? :roll:

I think they should have made a single movie with lots of cuts and changes that runs 3 about three hours and 30 minutes.

Its rare that a movie is that long, but not unheard of.

[QUOTE="kamikaze_pigmy"][QUOTE="hokies1313"]I don't think people around here know what "pacing issues" actually means. The movie's plot moved forward at a pace that was both engaging and thoughtful and I, as someone who had to read the final two books, was still completely able to understand and follow the plot.I'm certain there were a few pages, but in the end, judging it solely as a movie and not some sort of 100% media translation of another format, the movie was highly successful in what it attempted, in my eyes.hokies1313

Yeah, if you read the book. Otherwise, no, its not. Just consider all those super fast montages that they used to explain the Gregorovitch and Grindelwald parts. How is a non-reader supposed to follow that? How is that in any way clear? What about when Hermione talked about flesh memories? She never said what flesh memories were? How is a no-reader supposed to know what she is talking about?

The filmmakers don't properly explaininga huge number of the scenesor givethem context in this movie (which they actually did a decent, if flawed, job of in other movies despite fan's complaints about them). They just throw stuff at the viewer, expecting them to catch on. And with the exception of alot of the uneccesary camping stuff, they zipped through scenes at such a fast speed that theynever gave the characters time to reflect on the scenes and put them into their proper context with the film's narrativearc. Things just sort of happened, and then something else was happening, with not much of a segue in between.

For instance, in the book,after they learned about the Deathly Hallows at Xenophilius'shouse and escaped from it, they reflected on the Deathly Hallows and Harry started to piece together how they factored into his journey. That didn't happen at all in the movie. In the movie, they escaped the house and then, before they could do any reflecting, BAM! Snatchers! It was ridiculous. And people don't think the movie was rushed? :roll:

It's amazing that people are acting like this movie was less rushed than others. That's just plainly untrue. Since they were trying to be so "loyal", the movie was a mad dash to cram as much stuff in as possible. And the worst thing about it was that the filmmakers spent way too much time on camping. If they could have shaved some out that off, they could have made the more important scenes longer and given the viewer more context.

This movie was just plain sloppy IMO.

I haven't seen it yet, but i want to. I have heard that it is pretty good and the best movie yet out of the series, which in retrospect isnt really saying muchMichaeltheCM

I haven't seen it yet, but i want to. I have heard that it is pretty good and the best movie yet out of the series, which in retrospect isnt really saying muchMichaeltheCM

This is just my opinion of course, but this movie isn't even close to the best, mostly because it was so poorly explained, but also because its not even a complete movie and doesn't really stand on its own. It just cuts off and all the suspense they built up evaporates.

I think people have lowered their standards for this movie because it is the finale.

I liked it. Third one is still my favorite though. TheColbert

The third one was very well paced for a Potter film.

I'd say that either it or the 5th are my favorites.

Does anybody else see it as sort of ridiculous that after Half-Blood Prince which was a transitional, set-up film, we've gotten another transitional, set-upfilm? Its just so uneccesary. Half-Blood Prince left viewers with the exceptation that the finale would happen in the next film, but its really nothing more thana tease.

I'm sorry but those poll choices are awful, so I am not going to vote. I will say here that it does NOT fail, and to me it is the best of the series.

Its only part 1. Part 2 might blow our minds away though.

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]I haven't seen it yet, but i want to. I have heard that it is pretty good and the best movie yet out of the series, which in retrospect isnt really saying muchGreySeal9

This is just my opinion of course, but this movie isn't even close to the best, mostly because it was so poorly explained, but also because its not even a complete movie and doesn't really stand on its own. It just cuts off and all the suspense they built up evaporates.

I think people have lowered their standards for this movie because it is the finale.

your review - if it's yours - is mostly a story recap and is thus full of major spoilers. please modify accordingly.

on topic - i don't like it. I've always thought Yates to be the weakest Potter film director, and his shortcomings show prominently in this latest installment. he's good with creating memorable moments through slick cinematography and setpieces, which Deathly Hallows has no lack of. but the film is ultimately bogged down by his inconsistent pacing and weak narrative. i am, once again, sorely disappointed.

PS. that particular scene - you know what - is disgusting to no end and has no business being in a Potter film. i have no problem with gore and violence, but that? that is freaking ridiculous.

Jinroh_basic

It's my review. My wife was in bed with me, while I kept her up, writing it.

I loved the film and so did my wife.

I thought it was enjoyable and it was worth it.

I'm sorry but those poll choices are awful, so I am not going to vote. I will say here that it does NOT fail, and to me it is the best of the series.

Ultrabeatdown55

The polls aren't awful. It was done in a way to make people chuckle.

it was very good, there were a few key moments from the book that I wished they had put in the movie, but I have to be realistic, they cannot put everything in there.

What is with the poll options? Not only was it one of the best movies in the franchise but it was probably too faithful to the book for its own good. None of the options in the poll are applicable.

Here's the review. Click Here

The Harry Potter Franchise has been strong. A true saga written from the imaginative mind of J.K. Rowling spawning the success of several movies to take on the adaptation of the books.


There's plenty of magic and pop-culture magnetism, where an audience feels attached to Harry James Potter, Ronald Wesley, and Hermione Granger.



The two ending movies has plenty of pressure from movie goers to be epic, grand, and overall satisfying with magical expectations that no wizard can ever conjurer. It is one with incantations of long Latin based words, sighted with wand in hand.



As with any Harry Potter movie, the atmosphere of these last two movies hasn't lost any splendor of the Potter universe, even with the grim and serious tone that of the Deathly Hallows.



The tale of three brothers who sought a means of cheating death, with a delightful ability of creating a bridge, with their imagination to cross the other side, with weaving vine, root, and branching out, hath Death scoff to foil with cunning wit.

"Death be not proud, for some call me mighty and dreadful, art no so."


Death granted the three brothers the gift of riches and choice. One brother sought a powerful deadly wand that is lusted, feared, eventually taken by foe, after the brother murdered, and boasted of how invincible he was. The first brother died as he feel asleep, slain by another. The second brother wanted the gift of necro-observation-- the glancing of loved ones that have past to the neatherealm. Death gave this man the gift of an illusive experience of communicating with the dead through imagination, that the second brother drove himself mad. The final brother sought none of the folly of man. Only the cloak of death himself, to be invisible from death until a lifespan was fullfilled should he give his cloak to his own flesh and blood, and accept gladly his mortal fate the journey with death.


The order of the Phoenix--- the very symbol of an Egyptian bird, is one that dies and blazes away into a perpetual cycle of rebirth only to die and so forth--a path way against the Dark Lord, whence Voldemort and Harry are themselves the Horicrux and not objects alone are to be only considered as such.


Harry doesn't realize it yet, but to kill Voldemort, he must first die himself. It was the love of Harry's mom, that prevented the fatality of Harry, with the sacrifice of parental catering against the darklord, with their effort of protecting their only son. The theme is sacrifice. Power and magic isn't enough. But it is the very nature of sacrifice that is the ending result which is how Dolby met his death with his loving protection whilst saving Harry, Luna, Ron, and Hermione



The movie isn't about special effects. The direction is solidified with great carefulness where Voldemort grasp Professor Dumbledore's wand. A wand so powerful that even Voldemort hasn't a clue of it's potential as he laughs holding the essence of its power in a dark cold night, at the small island of the late Dumbledore.

If not a ether-realm of two universes where magic and reality clash. Where the ministry of magic, at odds with the normality of the muggles- the half breed of wizard and human, against the prejudice of the true-blood, bias of a full wizard of rite.



The locations are dramatic, gleaming the valleys of several highlands, to the icy forest covered with snow. It is nothing more than breathtaking, and it is the prelude to a movement that will intensify with some huge climax.


The movie leaves you wanting more--- making you feel like your interruption from actual reality unfair. This is a good thing. This is truly what I want before the finale.


To resolve the inevitable is to except complete self-destruction and sacrifice.




The actors Daniel, Emma, and Rupert should hail this project as the beginning of their careers by its seriousness.

My opinion of their acting ****is that they really give you that illusion that they are the characters and that they believe in their character. It translates with their puberty and coming of age as they are now adults. The dialog is believable. The music is a fulfillment of the tension and nature of the characters during scenario and location. There is balance. It is like no scale I've seen where a paperweight or feather easily out do each other due to the mass by its pound, ounce, or matter.
It is balance with adult complexity where Harry struggles to find himself has he reminisces about his part experiences.




For the first time, Harry has to make adult decisions with out the guidance of his elders. He finally is truly a wizard, even without his original wand.


Perhaps this story is more about excepting the tact of adapting to a difficult decision as it's theme. The crafting of a man and the understanding behind the things taught at Hogwarts.



The finale is coming soon. 2011 is almost here. July assumed. Probably pushed back to another date. To be announced..

TheStatusQuo

To be honest, I only went to see it to sneak hugs and kisses from my hubby in the dark, in an unfamiliar territory, while getting lost in the fantasy of a wizard's tale on the screen. ;)

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="MichaeltheCM"]I haven't seen it yet, but i want to. I have heard that it is pretty good and the best movie yet out of the series, which in retrospect isnt really saying muchUltrabeatdown55

This is just my opinion of course, but this movie isn't even close to the best, mostly because it was so poorly explained, but also because its not even a complete movie and doesn't really stand on its own. It just cuts off and all the suspense they built up evaporates.

I think people have lowered their standards for this movie because it is the finale.

Well, maybe that's the case sometimes, but I just thought this movie was so undeniablysloppy, that I think everybody must have just relaxed their standards. *shrugs*

Seriously though, just look at the editing in this movie. I mean, the franchise has always had some shoddy editing, but this latest movie took it to a whole new level. Some of the scenes were cut off so abruptly with almost no transition to the next. It was so clear that they were rushing like mad to fit everything in.

And the plot was conveyed in such a ridiculously unfleshed sort of way.

Consider the Xenophilius Lovegood scene: after they are told about the Deathly Hallows, and they escape the house, they don'treally reflect on what they learned to convey the revelations that the story of the Hallows brought about. They just apparate into the forest, say a few words to eachother, and then BAM! Snatchers. The movie was obviously a mad dash to cram everything in, so I don't really get why people are acting like it was well paced. I think people just like how close it was to the book.

I thought it was great and one of the best in the series. Very faithful to the book. Yeah, the middle with Harry, Hermione, and Ron living in the tent dragged on a little, but that part dragged on in the book too. Commander-Gree

Although it was technically faithful to the book (which is not always a good thing), I'm not really seeing how it did most of the plot, save for a few scene, justice. I mean, they pretty much cut corners on all the stuff that made the plot "connect" in order to cram everything in.

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I thought it was great and one of the best in the series. Very faithful to the book. Yeah, the middle with Harry, Hermione, and Ron living in the tent dragged on a little, but that part dragged on in the book too. GreySeal9

Although it was technically faithful to the book (which is not always a good thing), I'm not really seeing how it did most of the plot, save for a few scene, justice. I mean, they pretty much cut corners on all the stuff that made the plot "connect" in order to cram everything in.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I thought it was great and one of the best in the series. Very faithful to the book. Yeah, the middle with Harry, Hermione, and Ron living in the tent dragged on a little, but that part dragged on in the book too. Commander-Gree

Although it was technically faithful to the book (which is not always a good thing), I'm not really seeing how it did most of the plot, save for a few scene, justice. I mean, they pretty much cut corners on all the stuff that made the plot "connect" in order to cram everything in.

I will admit that many of the major scenes were handled extremely well, i.e. Ron and the Horcrux, the amazing Ministry infiltration, the 7 Potters (I had a few complaints about that, but not enough to cancel out its awesomness).

Like you said, I thought the Grindelwald and Gregorovitch stuff was handled atrociously due to those short trippy flashes into Voldemort's mindthat I'm sure alot of people weren't able to follow (they should have been handled the way HBP handled flashbacks).

But what really annoyed me, as I said earlier, was the lack of reflection on the Deathly Hallows. I remember being amazed as the unfolding relevations in the book after they escaped Xeno's house and to have that skipped was annoying and I'm usually a person that has no problem with cuts.

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Although it was technically faithful to the book (which is not always a good thing), I'm not really seeing how it did most of the plot, save for a few scene, justice. I mean, they pretty much cut corners on all the stuff that made the plot "connect" in order to cram everything in.

GreySeal9

I will admit that many of the major scenes were handled extremely well, i.e. Ron and the Horcrux, the amazing Ministry infiltration, the 7 Potters (I had a few complaints about that, but not enough to cancel out its awesomness).

Like you said, I thought the Grindelwald and Gregorovitch stuff was handled atrociously due to those short trippy flashes into Voldemort's mindthat I'm sure alot of people weren't able to follow (they should have been handled the way HBP handled flashbacks).

But what really annoyed me, as I said earlier, was the lack of reflection on the Deathly Hallows. I remember being amazed as the unfolding relevations in the book after they escaped Xeno's house and to have that skipped was annoying and I'm usually a person that has no problem with cuts.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] I understand what you're saying, but I've read the book twice and am so familiar with the plot that I just sort of glazed over the little details and focused on the major scenes (and there were a lot of them in this movie). One complaint i do have is that I didn't like how Dumbledore's back story and The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore was handled. For somebody who has never read the book, I can't imagine that the character of Grindelwald made any sense at all. I hope they go over more of it in Part 2. Commander-Gree

I will admit that many of the major scenes were handled extremely well, i.e. Ron and the Horcrux, the amazing Ministry infiltration, the 7 Potters (I had a few complaints about that, but not enough to cancel out its awesomness).

Like you said, I thought the Grindelwald and Gregorovitch stuff was handled atrociously due to those short trippy flashes into Voldemort's mindthat I'm sure alot of people weren't able to follow (they should have been handled the way HBP handled flashbacks).

But what really annoyed me, as I said earlier, was the lack of reflection on the Deathly Hallows. I remember being amazed as the unfolding relevations in the book after they escaped Xeno's house and to have that skipped was annoying and I'm usually a person that has no problem with cuts.

That being said, the three brothers animation was very beautiful.

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I will admit that many of the major scenes were handled extremely well, i.e. Ron and the Horcrux, the amazing Ministry infiltration, the 7 Potters (I had a few complaints about that, but not enough to cancel out its awesomness).

Like you said, I thought the Grindelwald and Gregorovitch stuff was handled atrociously due to those short trippy flashes into Voldemort's mindthat I'm sure alot of people weren't able to follow (they should have been handled the way HBP handled flashbacks).

But what really annoyed me, as I said earlier, was the lack of reflection on the Deathly Hallows. I remember being amazed as the unfolding relevations in the book after they escaped Xeno's house and to have that skipped was annoying and I'm usually a person that has no problem with cuts.

GreySeal9

That being said, the three brothers animation was very beautiful.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] I understand what you're saying, but I've read the book twice and am so familiar with the plot that I just sort of glazed over the little details and focused on the major scenes (and there were a lot of them in this movie). One complaint i do have is that I didn't like how Dumbledore's back story and The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore was handled. For somebody who has never read the book, I can't imagine that the character of Grindelwald made any sense at all. I hope they go over more of it in Part 2. Commander-Gree

I will admit that many of the major scenes were handled extremely well, i.e. Ron and the Horcrux, the amazing Ministry infiltration, the 7 Potters (I had a few complaints about that, but not enough to cancel out its awesomness).

Like you said, I thought the Grindelwald and Gregorovitch stuff was handled atrociously due to those short trippy flashes into Voldemort's mindthat I'm sure alot of people weren't able to follow (they should have been handled the way HBP handled flashbacks).

But what really annoyed me, as I said earlier, was the lack of reflection on the Deathly Hallows. I remember being amazed as the unfolding relevations in the book after they escaped Xeno's house and to have that skipped was annoying and I'm usually a person that has no problem with cuts.

It's pretty much on par with Half-Blood Prince. Ie, it's up there as one of, if not the, very best of the series.

It was one of the best.:)

Movie was epic the best one yet.

I went to see Part One on the day it came out and it was awesome. I thought it generally did the book justice. I can't wait for Part Two.

Seriously though, just look at the editing in this movie. I mean, the franchise has always had some shoddy editing, but this latest movie took it to a whole new level. Some of the scenes were cut off so abruptly with almost no transition to the next. It was so clear that they were rushing like mad to fit everything in.

And the plot was conveyed in such a ridiculously unfleshed sort of way.

Consider the Xenophilius Lovegood scene: after they are told about the Deathly Hallows, and they escape the house, they don'treally reflect on what they learned to convey the revelations that the story of the Hallows brought about. They just apparate into the forest, say a few words to eachother, and then BAM! Snatchers. The movie was obviously a mad dash to cram everything in, so I don't really get why people are acting like it was well paced. I think people just like how close it was to the book.