Spiderman HC when too many reboots happen

Have you seen it yet? The return of everyone's favorite wallcrawler Spiderman! Well, I just did yesterday and boy was I disappointed! Three reboots in the last 15 years would do that to a person and it goes double for me because I happen to be a huge Spiderman fan. I've seen all the Sam Raimi movies and even the Amazing Spiderman ones too.

To begin, please note that I am not trashing Spiderman Homecoming as a bad movie. I am trashing it for being a bad Spiderman movie. If wasn't bad enough that this had to be yet ANOTHER new Spiderman universe, it had to steal the one directly from Miles Morales. Our one and only ethnic Spiderman. And if it wasn't bad enough that it stole Miles Morales' universe, it had to slap on Iron Man to steal the scenes of what would have been a great chance for our young Peter Parker to shine. And if THAT wasn't bad enough, it had to add technological gizmos to the Spidey suit. And if that is STILL not enough, the new red and blue also has a handy, dandy computer AI that gives Peter field advice and for whatever reason, love advice. (Apparently this is what you get when you let Iron Man design a hero costume.) All of this while sitting through a long, typical grade school drama that would even make Degrassi fans barf.

That's what we're dealing with. Aside from this, the movie does deliver what it wants to do well but the changes to the story are so gut wrenchingly severe that it gets too hard to want to finish watching it. I honestly don't think that I could stomache watching a sequel to this and for the first time ever, I found myself not enjoying a Spiderman flick. Clearly this was meant for the younger audiences but it makes me also wonder if I am the only who feels this way. So as a loyal fan of Spiderman, I ask you; is it really necessary to have to make an entirely new Spiderman just to add to the Avengers? Shouldn't we draw a line and say no to a reboot?

I'm yet to see it :)

The Amazing Spider-Man movies sucked, so yeah it needed a reboot and having it back (partially) in marvels hands is great news for all!

They didn't suck. The problem with Homecoming is Spider-Man takes a back seat to Ironman and the AI was ridiculous.

Like the O.P., I too wonder why a reboot needed to occur after the Toby Whatshisname trifecta. Is it that impossible to carry on the same storyline/universe with different actors?

@LJS9502_basic: They did suck, Garfield was a HORRIBLE Peter/Spidey.

As for the new movie...did you actually watch it lol? Ironman is in it for 3 scenes, Spidey didn't take a backseat to him.

@vfighter:

Garfield was a better Spiderman than this kid is. He was just a bad Peter.

Bonus question:

Do you guys agree with Marvel's decision to take Miles Morales' universe but put Peter Parker in it?

As someone who couldn't stand Toby as Spider-man (or I'm thinking anything else...the man just makes me want to punch him) I was quite happy with the ASM movies so now I'm really not interested in another reboot. Will watch it in a few years I guess...that being said, Holland did a good job in the Avengers although the interactions between him and Stark were a bit weird; kind of a "Hey Tony, want to me my rich uncle/daddy/boyfriend?" so I'm not too sure about a whole movie about the 2 of them, especially if Stark (as much as I love RDJ) takes the lead.

I liked the first amazing spiderman, but the second sucked bad. Had way too much going on. I also liked homecoming. But it did have it's issues (flash was miscast, a lot of sjw crap tacked in). So far there hasn't been a perfectly cast spiderman movie. I like tom holland as spiderman, I think he will do well. I didn't mind garfield but that hair bugged me.

Garfield was a very good Spidey....just wasn't dorky enough to be Peter.

Ironman influenced the entire movie. The AI is Ironman and in a lot more than 3 scenes. did you watch the movie?

@korvus:

Tony was holding Pete's hand the whole time. They were trying to do a father-son thing .

@killered3: I assumed it would be the case, but as long as they decided on what kind of relationship they have and stick to it, I'm fine with it. But, as I said, I hope it's not a "awww, his uncle died but now he has a father figure again!" movie; I also hope there's not going to be lots of Stark hitting on Aunt May scenes...

Reminder that Hc was great, friends

I can confirm that the spider man did not take a back seat in his movie

Maybe people are mistaking peter existing in an established universe and wanting to be part of that team and having his arc be connected to all of that as taking a back seat or whatever

Telling you guys that this is a movie about spider man and peter and his personal arc

It just happens to be tied to other people but the movie is not about the other things

It's about peter and what those things mean to him

Peter

Peter

Peter

Peter

Peter

Not tony

Miles got a shoutout

@killered3: HC was weird. I get it that everyone is hyping up the MCU but I'd prefer separate universes if it means that characters are great on their own rather than one big universe of characters where a few get botched.

Gotta say I miss Toby and tbh Garfield is probably having a good laugh now.

@dave123321: Wow Dave, quadruple post and a bit of a rant? What's going on with you, friend? :)

@korvus:

Dave is suffering from FBDD (fanboy disagreement disorder). I had that when I saw Batman vs Superman and everyone else hated it while I loved it.

@killered3: Woah man, what with all that medical jargon? :p

I liked it. I think too many were expected the Marvel experience and anything less than that was going to fail......

@killered3: Tom Holland is the perfect Peter/Spidey, not sure what you're smoking but don't pass it this way.

Toby was ok in the role, he didnt have the comedic chops but still did alright. Garfield was horrible, he played the role like a douche/asshole, he was the opposite of what spidey should be. Holland NAILED it though, he's as perfect a fit as RDJ is as Ironman. Holland is Spider-Man.

@LJS9502_basic: The AI isn't Ironman or Tony dear god please explain more of the movie to us please, this should be comic gold lol.

Yea, it's Spiderman, they were never going to leave it in the gutter. Rather Marvel than continue with it's current attempt.

@vfighter:

Holland felt more like a Ninja Turtle than a Spiderman. I think he would've made a better Michaelangelo than Spidey.

@uninspiredcup:

I heard from somewhere that Amazing Spiderman was gonna do a Spider Gwen story arc for part 3 but got canned for being terrible.

@korvus: someone needs to be the beacon of truth

@killered3: bvs was a good time at the movies mhm

Hey you guys while we are on the subject of Spider-Man, you looking forward to the PS4 game?

2017. Still into super hero movies.

@lifelessablaze: missing out bud

I've grown tired of the same old inconsequential tropes that plague super hero movies especial Marvel movies.

So much for you telling us you saw the movie..........

Guys I saw the movie and I can confirm that tony isn't the suit

@killered3: Oh so you're just trolling, ok then.

No one said Tony is the suit....are you feeling okay? Your posts are very strange today.

@vfighter:

Trolling? I wish I was but it's all true. I hated this movie and while not hating Holland as a Spiderman, he was far from perfect. Too cowabunga-ish for my book.

@LJS9502_basic: how have you been 9502?

It's about time for spiderwoman, a latino lebsbian, am I right, Marvel fans?

I really am not a fan of super hero movies. Other than the Dark Knight Triliogy I haven't liked a super hero movie in a long time. I found the marvel team up movies to be really boring.

That being said I thought this movie was actually enjoyable. Now granted I snuck in to it after watching Planet of the Apes(terrible movie btw), so I didn't have to pay an admission so that might of helped me like it a bit more. But overall I thought it was a fun movie.

I definitely didn't like how Spider Man seemed to make every situation worse than it should of been, but I can chalk it up to him just learning, whatever.

I don't think I'd of liked the movie had it been something I was waiting to see, but since I seen it on a sour it was an entertaining movie for me.

Honestly, I thought this was the best Spider-Man movie. I thought Holland did an awesome job and this movie captured the teenage aspect of of Spider-Man way better than the other two. I can see a lot of potential for this Spider-Man because way more so than the other two, we can watch this character grow up and become the Spider-Man we all know from current comics and storylines. I'm really excited to see where it goes.

I still like Garfield as Spider-Man, but he didn't really show Peter making mistakes. That and the movies were pulling the BvS approach of pointlessly shoving multiple movies worth of terminology and characters into them. Also, every time I go back and watch one of the Maguire movies, I like it less and less. Toby barely behaves like Spider-Man, makes nearly no quips, and also whines and cries a ridiculous amount. Not to mention that the romance with Mary Jane is honestly horrible, she has no character other than marveling at Spider-Man or causing more drama for the storyline. And I know I don't really need to say it, but they ruined the Black Suit/Venom arc.

Well i'll agree, there are too many reboots for sure. I mean if a kids says i wanna see spiderman, you'll be super confused as which one to show him. Especially if you have not seen it yourself. I guess this last one was one for the teens, a fresh start supposedly, but it was entertaining. Not as good as the Doc OC, Sandman fight, but it was ok. They do need to stop making so many.

@LexLas:

I'll bet this one just gets a sequel before it gets canned. Two if it's lucky.

I was worried too that there's gonna be too much Ironman especially with how the marketing for the movies was done, but that wasn't the case at all. I don't get why others are saying he stole scenes or overshadowed Peter, he was only in a few scenes and fit into the story perfectly IMO. It's definitely a Peter Parker movie and not one about the two of them.

@harry_james_pot: I agree. He's only in about four or five scenes, and even then he's mainly there to talk to and about Peter. Even Vulture gets more screen time than Stark, so I don't see why people are saying he stole the spotlight in this movie. He's in just enough to serve as a mentor figure to Peter. Not to mention it fits since Spider-Man has tons of team ups and interactions with other super heroes in the comics.

As a hardcore Spidey fan since the 1970's I actually opened my mind and allowed myself to enjoy this movie despite the changes. 9.0 / 10.

My biggest complaint is they had The Vulture as another cardboard villain, and I'm trying to sell Amazing Spider-Man #2, the first appearance of The Vulture, on E-bay right now.

Yep, he was only in at a few tiny scenes. It made sense, and it was very cool. Iron man is played by the same guy throughout all the Iron man movies, so thats a different prospective.

I thought it was the best of all of the Spiderman movies. I was really glad that they didn't give us the origin story for the 3rd time in 15 years. It was just a really entertaining movie.

@harry_james_pot: @baron_machina: @LexLas: mhm