So, who's winning the war in Afghanistan?

The taliban have had way more casulties than the coalition forces, but they keep on fighting and still control a big portion of Afghanistan. So hipotetically if the US left tomorrow, it would be just a matter of months untill they assume total control over the country, so in my opinion as of 2011 the taliban are winning...

I think that the taliban are winning just because they haven't been defeated yet... It sounds stupid, but if you think about it no it doesn't. The US isn't there to occupy the country forever so if they leave Afghanistan in this state as of 2011, Vietnam would happen again.

I think that the taliban are winning just because they haven't been defeated yet... It sounds stupid, but if you think about it no it doesn't. The US isn't there to occupy the country forever so if they leave Afghanistan in this state as of 2011, Vietnam would happen again.

Blaminator1221

We are I would say. But we could be doing alot better.

Everyone's losing until the US gets its ass out of there.

Everyone's losing until the US gets its ass out of there.

poseidonwest

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Everyone's losing until the US gets its ass out of there.

GodofEmpires

Technically, we're not at war since Congress hasn't declared war against the Taliban. But to answer your question, it's kind of a grey area. We kill way more of them than they kill of us but they're still fighting and lowering morale for the locals. Some of them have infiltrated the local police forces and military, which is seen when some of them randomly shoot Coalition Forces while on joint patrols. What holds us back are limitations; in a normal war we fight against an opposing force that wears uniforms while with this conflict we're fighting people who don't wear uniforms and will hide within the locals. Kind of makes it hard to target the enemy when you don't know who the enemy is until they're shooting at you. We have the potential to win eventually, but you can't say how long it will take. If we left tomorrow it would probably be months, if not weeks before the Taliban would overrun the capital and take over the country. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Taliban are winning

[QUOTE="poseidonwest"]

Everyone's losing until the US gets its ass out of there.

GodofEmpires

they liked it before...so why not now?

The oil companies.

Well... it's hard to say, but if we measure it in oil then I suppose we are.

I don't think anyone really wins in War.

I agree, no army in the world has found an effective way to combat guerrilla insurgency...Blaminator1221

Use guerilla tactics right back.

Hearts and minds was always more effective than shock and awe... in fact shock and awe has pretty much never worked against these types of enemies and yet it continues to be used.

you know you're losing when you desperately try to hold talks with taliban but fail http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11845217

The war in Afghanistan isn't really a war anybody can win.

I don't think anyone is winning. The Taliban will probably just play the waiting game and hope the Coalition forces eventually leave. European forces will no doubt completely pull out within 5 or so years because of the economic crisis, but I wouldn't be surprised if the USA grinds it out and pushes the Afghans even further towards the Taliban.

I'd be very surprised if the US creates a stable Afghanistan.

even if the US can gain the upper hand now, the extremists will be an ongoing problem and will worsen when we leave.

No one. I could say we're just being lazy with the war, but I don't know too much about that.CRS98

the us taxpayers are losingStanley09

Yep.

Taliban/ al queada is winning the us taxpayers / iraqi civillians are losing its pointless to be thereStanley09

How are the iraqi civilians losing in afghanistan? :?

[QUOTE="poseidonwest"]

Everyone's losing until the US gets its ass out of there.

GodofEmpires

[QUOTE="Stanley09"]Taliban/ al queada is winning the us taxpayers / iraqi civillians are losing its pointless to be thereEspada12

How are the iraqi civilians losing in afghanistan? :?

I can tell you who's winning. The guys who own the Oil companys. ;)

[QUOTE="Stanley09"][QUOTE="GodofEmpires"] What about the Afghan civilians? I don't think they'd like the Taliban controlling Afghanistan. thegerg

Could you share where you heard such statistics?

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[QUOTE="Stanley09"]Taliban/ al queada is winning the us taxpayers / iraqi civillians are losing its pointless to be therelightleggy

How are the iraqi civilians losing in afghanistan? :?

The oil companies.

Infinite_Access

China is winning in Afghanistan.

Click HERE for proof.

I think that the taliban are winning just because they haven't been defeated yet... It sounds stupid, but if you think about it no it doesn't. The US isn't there to occupy the country forever so if they leave Afghanistan in this state as of 2011, Vietnam would happen again.

Blaminator1221

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

How are the iraqi civilians losing in afghanistan? :?

Stanley09

thats why I always say "middle eastern people" instead of saying "afghans, iranies, pakistanies" you never know which country is getting attacked...

Taliban/ al queada is winning the us taxpayers / iraqi civillians are losing its pointless to be thereStanley09

I agree, no army in the world has found an effective way to combat guerrilla insurgency...Blaminator1221

is that still going on? i thought they were just searching for a man with a beard.