Should religion and government mix?

Religion should be a part of politics, but in no way should it control it.

If religion drives politics it would most likely become biased towards whatever the religion believes.

Religion should be a part of politics, but in no way should it control it.

If religion drives politics it would most likely become biased towards whatever the religion believes.

Hoodlym_UK

Why do you think religion should be apart of politics, if it is then eventually it will comtrol more and more of it.

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Religion should be a part of politics, but in no way should it control it.

If religion drives politics it would most likely become biased towards whatever the religion believes.

Film-Guy

Why do you think religion should be apart of politics, if it is then eventually it will comtrol more and more of it.

I mean it in a sense that politics should not eradicate religion, instead they must accomidate their believes and values, there's a difference between religion being a subject of political discussion and relgion controling that discussion.. if you know what I mean.

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Religion should be a part of politics, but in no way should it control it.

If religion drives politics it would most likely become biased towards whatever the religion believes.

Hoodlym_UK

Why do you think religion should be apart of politics, if it is then eventually it will comtrol more and more of it.

I mean it in a sense that politics should not eradicate religion, instead they must accomidate their believes and values, there's a difference between religion being a subject of political discussion and relgion controling that discussion.. if you know what I mean.

I see what you mean, I agree that government should not exclude religion, but it also shouldnt give religions tax exempt status. I dont see why our government does that.

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Religion should be a part of politics, but in no way should it control it.

If religion drives politics it would most likely become biased towards whatever the religion believes.

Film-Guy

Why do you think religion should be apart of politics, if it is then eventually it will comtrol more and more of it.

I mean it in a sense that politics should not eradicate religion, instead they must accomidate their believes and values, there's a difference between religion being a subject of political discussion and relgion controling that discussion.. if you know what I mean.

I see what you mean, I agree that government should not exclude religion, but it also shouldnt give religions tax exempt status. I dont see why our government does that.

Whoa that's a bummer, what ever happend to not being treated differently based on religion O_o.

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Religion should be a part of politics, but in no way should it control it.

If religion drives politics it would most likely become biased towards whatever the religion believes.

Hoodlym_UK

Why do you think religion should be apart of politics, if it is then eventually it will comtrol more and more of it.

I mean it in a sense that politics should not eradicate religion, instead they must accomidate their believes and values, there's a difference between religion being a subject of political discussion and relgion controling that discussion.. if you know what I mean.

I see what you mean, I agree that government should not exclude religion, but it also shouldnt give religions tax exempt status. I dont see why our government does that.

Whoa that's a bummer, what ever happend to not being treated differently based on religion O_o.

I dunno, I don't dislike religion, but I see no reason why they should get tax emempt status.

It depends actually. In the Middle East its perfectly fine. There are some government which runs both but split them up accordingly.

Even Britain is starting to consider Syariah Law.

No, never, aboslutely not, religion and politics are bad enough by themselves, but together?!

Seriously though, they just get in the way of each other, I remember when people were saying "Vote for bush because if you don't then you're not a christian!!!"

I facepalmed so many times during that election.

No, it would never work. Theory & faith don't mix. The only adaptation I could see would be methodism. But methodism is a backseat religion so I don't believe there would be a point.

Government is based on logic. Religion is not. So you would be trying to convey reasonable and unreasonable.

No, no, no and no.luke1889

The thing is, the only way to completely keep politics and religion apart is to keep religious people out of politics. A person's religion defines many of the decisions he will make. You can't simply tell the person to turn his religion off.thnickaman13

[QUOTE="thnickaman13"]The thing is, the only way to completely keep politics and religion apart is to keep religious people out of politics. A person's religion defines many of the decisions he will make. You can't simply tell the person to turn his religion off.notconspiracy

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="thnickaman13"]The thing is, the only way to completely keep politics and religion apart is to keep religious people out of politics. A person's religion defines many of the decisions he will make. You can't simply tell the person to turn his religion off.CptJSparrow

They shouldn't be, but imagine if a government and all it's people fully supported one religion? It would definetly slip it's way into political proceedings.

Then of course we have to take into account what counts as religion? Do traditional christian morals count? If not what do we rely on to determine what is right and wrong and therefore against the law?

It depends actually. In the Middle East its perfectly fine. There are some government which runs both but split them up accordingly.

Even Britain is starting to consider Syariah Law.

Napster06

Its NEVER fine. Just because its the status quo doesn't mean that its fine or acceptable. There are some things that just should never be. For centuries, our ancestors existed in Monarchies and empires. Just because it was the status quo then doesn't mean it was the right thing.

And NO Britain is not even starting to think about considering Syariah Law. The archbishop suggested it in his foolish arrogance and got a MASSIVE public and political backlash. Too right, what a completely STUPID thing to say. Someone of his position should keep his head FAR away from the realms of politics or legislature.

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="thnickaman13"]The thing is, the only way to completely keep politics and religion apart is to keep religious people out of politics. A person's religion defines many of the decisions he will make. You can't simply tell the person to turn his religion off.CptJSparrow

Fools. You're too naive to realize it would cause more problems than it would repair. You can't give an unreasonable person authority. It would be a disaster. Many religious people are delusional and religion only encourages them. We don't need people like that making decisions.MagnumPI

Many unreligious people are also delusional. Many women are delusional. Many blacks are delusional. Should we keep all of them out of politics?

Even Britain is starting to consider Syariah Law.

Napster06

If that ever happens, I shall be outraged. I can't believe the Archbishop suggested that. :|

If they want to live here in the UK, they should abide by our law, culture change or not. If they don't like it, they can blummin' well lump it and leave.

Crikey, if we went to their country and tried to get British law established, they'd probably execute us.

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Even Britain is starting to consider Syariah Law.

luke1889

If that ever happens, I shall be outraged. I can't believe the Archbishop suggested that. :|

If they want to live here in the UK, they should abide by our law, culture change or not. If they don't like it, they can blummin' well lump it and leave.

Crikey, if we went to their country and tried to get British law established, they'd probably execute us.

I wonder why he did suggest that. And I have to agree with the getting the British law established etc.

I've asked someone and what he said was there is two courts in Britain. One for the Common Law and another Syariah Law. He even said Syariah Law is indirectly implemented. He defined it as 'preventive' law. I'm not sure about this though.

[QUOTE="MagnumPI"] Fools. You're too naive to realize it would cause more problems than it would repair. You can't give an unreasonable person authority. It would be a disaster. Many religious people are delusional and religion only encourages them. We don't need people like that making decisions.thnickaman13

Many unreligious people are also delusional. Many women are delusional. Many blacks are delusional. Should we keep all of them out of politics?

Not in democracy. I don't see a problem with it happening in a theocracy or constitutional monarchy or empire, however.CptJSparrow

How does this make sense? Australia is a constitutional monarchy. So is Denmark. So are many other democracies. I don't know why you would condemn people from these countries to a religious government.... You know, democracy does not exclude monarchy...

And of course not. Religion should come nowhere near politics. As someone already said, religion shouldn't mix with anything, let alone the government of my country. We've already seen how well they mix in places like Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia......