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#1 hagadorn
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Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.
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#2 Berzz
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it would be nice if these topics stopped.
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#3 Psychosisrain
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you make a good point.

Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.hagadorn

you make a good point.

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#5 Master_Jdog
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This is an even bigger joke then "should weed be legal" ansewers hell no to both.
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#6 Dracargen
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Alcohol is legal, so why not heroin?

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#7 Guiltfeeder566
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It would be like natural selection for an entire society...
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#8 Private_Adam
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It's a drug so it should stay illegal.
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#9 ChowsSN
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The second time was ohkay, the third time it's stupid. Stop with these threads. Only weed needs to get legalized.
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#10 MythofSisyphus
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hahaha... people compare weed to heroin and meth... wtf? All you're showing is your ignorance people.
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#11 Psychosisrain
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The second time was ohkay, the third time it's stupid. Stop with these threads. Only weed needs to get legalized.ChowsSN

YEsss! I win!

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#12 SolidSnake35
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Alcohol is legal, so why not heroin?

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Yeah, exactly, and think of all the tax money the government would make.
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#14 Psychosisrain
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Its not legal because, dun ddun dun, GOVERNMENT CAN'T TAX IT!. /thread
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#15 SSCyborg
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I say we legalize vigilante justice!

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#16 hagadorn
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Its not legal because, dun ddun dun, GOVERNMENT CAN'T TAX IT!. /threadPsychosisrain

but if it WAS legal, the government COULD tax it because it would be sold by large companies.

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#18 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Alcohol is legal, so why not heroin?

SolidSnake35

Yeah, exactly, and think of all the tax money the government would make.

An dude, dude, it opens your mind, dude. Face your inner demons.

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#19 Psychosisrain
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

Alcohol is legal, so why not heroin?

Dracargen

Yeah, exactly, and think of all the tax money the government would make.

An dude, dude, it opens your mind, dude. Face your inner demons.

that sounds pretty cool and scary!

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#20 gamegadge
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hahaha... people compare weed to heroin and meth... wtf? All you're showing is your ignorance people.MythofSisyphus

Amen to that.

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#21 qubert27
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Yes, it should be. And I also think arson should be legal.
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#22 SolidSnake35
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I say we legalize vigilante justice!

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And murder. That'd save costs for the police because we'd be able to serve our own sweet justice. Wait, that was what you meant, right? I need to sleep. >_>
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#23 DivergeUnify
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it's the worst of all drugs. most addictive, most letal.
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#24 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

I say we legalize vigilante justice!

SolidSnake35

And murder. That'd save costs for the police because we'd be able to serve our own sweet justice. Wait, that was what you meant, right? I need to sleep. >_>

:lol: Yeah that's what I meant.

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#25 Dracargen
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Yes, it should be. And I also think arson should be legal.qubert27

Heroin is legal, so why not arson?

If an 18-year-old can go off to a foreign country and kill hundreds of people, then he should be able to set a few houses on fire.

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Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.hagadorn
you know, you don't have shoot it up. there are other ways of using heroin.
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#27 hagadorn
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[QUOTE="hagadorn"]Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.dooly420
you know, you don't have shoot it up. there are other ways of using heroin.

really? Share your wisdom

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#28 Psychosisrain
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it's the worst of all drugs. most addictive, most letal.DivergeUnify

wHOA whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, this isn't my batman cup.

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#29 hagadorn
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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"]it's the worst of all drugs. most addictive, most letal.Psychosisrain

wHOA whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, this isn't my batman cup.

then whose batman cup is it? it sure as hell isnt mine

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#30 dangerd0g24
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Heroin no, Marijuana yes.
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#31 Dracargen
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You know what? I move that we abolish all laws altogether. After all, it's been proven by the unanimously undisputed Forbidden Fruit Effect that laws just make people commit more crimes, and since history clearly shows that lawless societies are peaceful utopias (along with the Netherlands recently abolishing laws and still remaining intact), we should just let everything be legal. And then the government (which would no longer exist) could tax it and bring us out of the massive debt we are in from upholding needless things like laws, which have failed completely.

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#32 dooly420
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[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="hagadorn"]Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.hagadorn

you know, you don't have shoot it up. there are other ways of using heroin.

really? Share your wisdom

just like a lot of other drugs, you can smoke it or snort it.
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#33 Psychosisrain
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[QUOTE="hagadorn"]

[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="hagadorn"]Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.dooly420

you know, you don't have shoot it up. there are other ways of using heroin.

really? Share your wisdom

just like a lot of other drugs, you can smoke it or snort it.

you sure seem to know alot about heroin.

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#34 dooly420
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[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="hagadorn"]

[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="hagadorn"]Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.Psychosisrain

you know, you don't have shoot it up. there are other ways of using heroin.

really? Share your wisdom

just like a lot of other drugs, you can smoke it or snort it.

you sure seem to know alot about heroin.

no, i know a lot about drugs.
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[QUOTE="Psychosisrain"][QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="hagadorn"]

[QUOTE="dooly420"][QUOTE="hagadorn"]Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.dooly420

you know, you don't have shoot it up. there are other ways of using heroin.

really? Share your wisdom

just like a lot of other drugs, you can smoke it or snort it.

you sure seem to know alot about heroin.

no, i know a lot about drugs.

hmmm, you seem to know alot about other drugs too. hmmm..

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#36 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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Short: No.

Long: For christ's sake no.

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#37 Rhazakna
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Yes.
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The government has no right to make your life even a little inconvenient in the name of upholding order. Priveleges are rights, not a revocable immunity granted by the government to a restricted group, either by birth or on a conditional basis. Down with the evil, racist fascist government! We has no needs of them, Precious. Wicked, tricksy, false.
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#39 hagadorn
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The government has no right to make your life even a little inconvenient in the name of upholding order. Priveleges are rights, not a revocable immunity granted by the government to a restricted group, either by birth or on a conditional basis. Down with the evil, racist fascist government! We has no needs of them, Precious. Wicked, tricksy, false. Dracargen

not to mention the wraiths, ya know, the ones on wings

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#40 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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Heroin can only be legal if I am allowed to carry a pipe and brutally murder anyone I find high on it.
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See, the irony here is that heroin used to be not only legal, but used as a painkiller... and now, morphine, which comes from the same source (opium; well, according to page 40 of my chemistry textbook from high school anyway) is used instead. And according to Penn Jillette, heroin is more than 600 times cheaper than it was before the war on drugs.

Anyway, I think comparing marijuana to heroin is a bit of a weak analogy, seeing as how heroin is an arguably more physically addictive, more serious drug, and more likely to cause crimes involving victims. I have to wonder just what the basis for comparing marijuana to heroin is anyway. If it's that they're both illegal, remember that "legal" is not a chemical property.

That said, though, as with marijuana, a similar distinction should be made between what's wrong with a certain activity and what's wrong with legalizing that activity, and while ultimately the two are related, that doesn't mean your answer to one has to be your answer to the other... I'm on the fence about this one...

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#42 mikeg0788
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hay good point u r write i will stop smoking and drinking nao. thx 4 teh insite!!
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Only Marijane can reclaim the fame and the shame of being legalized. YOU DIG?
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See, the irony here is that heroin used to be not only legal, but used as a painkiller... and now, morphine, which comes from the same source (opium; well, according to page 40 of my chemistry textbook from high school anyway) is used instead. And according to Penn Jillette, heroin is more than 600 times cheaper than it was before the war on drugs.

Anyway, I think comparing marijuana to heroin is a bit of a weak analogy, seeing as how heroin is an arguably more physically addictive, more serious drug, and more likely to cause crimes involving victims. I have to wonder just what the basis for comparing marijuana to heroin is anyway. If it's that they're both illegal, remember that "legal" is not a chemical property.

That said, though, as with marijuana, a similar distinction should be made between what's wrong with a certain activity and what's wrong with legalizing that activity, and while ultimately the two are related, that doesn't mean your answer to one has to be your answer to the other... I'm on the fence about this one...

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it's not arguably worse. It's worse completely. the worst
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#45 Psychosisrain
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See, the irony here is that heroin used to be not only legal, but used as a painkiller... and now, morphine, which comes from the same source (opium; well, according to page 40 of my chemistry textbook from high school anyway) is used instead. And according to Penn Jillette, heroin is more than 600 times cheaper than it was before the war on drugs.

matthayter700

Thats pretty crazy, I took Morphine back when I broke my leg and needed surgery, I was about 11, so I would say it was about 7 years ago. I'm sure they are no the same though!

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#46 DivergeUnify
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"]

See, the irony here is that heroin used to be not only legal, but used as a painkiller... and now, morphine, which comes from the same source (opium; well, according to page 40 of my chemistry textbook from high school anyway) is used instead. And according to Penn Jillette, heroin is more than 600 times cheaper than it was before the war on drugs.

Psychosisrain

Thats pretty crazy, I took Morphine back when I broke my leg and needed surgery, I was about 11, so I would say it was about 7 years ago. I'm sure they are no the same though!

no they are.
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#47 X360PS3AMD05
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Definitely, drugs should be a social issue not a legal one. Esp. in a so called "free" society, the reasons why these things are illegal are BS anyway.
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#48 hoophard
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No, Herioin is very dangerous to intake.
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Sure you can OD from the first time you shoot up and sure the needles lying around everywhere can give you numerous diseases and sure injecting things into yourself is generally skank, but is it really all that bad? I mean people have fun on it.hagadorn

You don't ALWAYS inject heroin. It can be smoked or insufflated too. But legalized? No.

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#50 acidBURN1942
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Id like to try it some day.