Reza Aslan blames the attack in Paris on french bigotry

Islam is fueled by ignorance and anger. All of a sudden I'm the ignorant one despite that even after event proves my point of view? The fact that the majority of these Islamic nations deprive women of rights? Islam is a religion made for the ignorant, uneducated and fanatical. Those who support this religion, support Sharia law and it's fundamentals. The fact that they decapitate homosexuals and execute people who leave the religion is pathetic. Simply because he didn't "condone" the killings doesn't mean he doesn't condemn it either.

pedophilia

lol

How about you ask him if he condemns the killings? To assume he doesn't just because of his religion is the ignorance I'm speaking of. You are being prejudiced here.

The problem is that you think that I think Turkey is part of Europe. Well I don't. I greatly despise the ottoman empire and whoever associates himself with them (genocide of the Armenian people anyone?)

Turkey has always been part of the greater Iran and the self-proclaimed ottoman empire brought the Muslim world nothing but misery. If they really want to be that ottoman empire again then they should know that they WILL clash with us (the Muslim world).

And yes I still think I know them better than you. I always keep an eye on the enemies of Islam like Turkey and the Saudis.

What are you talking about? Turkey is and as long as i have lived been a part of Euro-Asia and have close ties with the European Union and USand have handed in their notification of desire to join the EU.

But this post seems to be a bit edgy? did your account get hacked?

More importantly, why have laws based on religous beliefs? If something is forbidden in your religion, then you should freely choose not to do that thing because you believe it is wrong, not because you would be punished by authorities. Are you better person because you avoid temptation or because you never face it?

ok I'm a little lost here. What are you on about? You said Turkey is non-secular (which shows how little you know about Turkey). Then you continued to criticize Turkey and implied that it's a different europen country. (which again shows how little you know about Turkey). Then I explained to you why I too criticize Turkey even though they're secular and I implied that it's because of their fascism and their love for a corrupted and extinct empire. And it appears you have no idea what I'm talking about. (which yet again shows how little you know about Turkey). Then you called me crazy.

So what are we discussing here?

First i didn´t call you crazy i asked about what you wrote since it was not making any sense.

And what does Turkey being a muslim country have to do with if its european or not? Turkey have been since WWII considered a western ally, a part of the outermost border of europe. Which is why Turkey is invited to the EC in football, the eurovision song contest and have been engaged in talks about them joining the European union.

This is not exactly secrets so i am beginning to think you are just trolling.

And I didn't deny any of that but it still doesn't make Turkey a European country in the sense that it doesn't share the same history and culture with Europe. It shares the same history and culture with the greater Iran which was part of the middle east.

Reza Azlan, Gaza Ali, Mia Khalifa ....... they all are winning

Oh, Mia Khalifa is a born winner.

Reza Aslan, she shouldnt have worn that dress. He shouldnt have talked back to his father.

Don't get me started about French bigotry. They expected me to speak French in France and refused to speak American even though they could. Those foul surrender monkeys!

zing, that's actually funny

Are you moving countries and continents?

I actually dont know if you are being serious or just having a laugh at my expense.

Because i have heard some strange and made up shit on the forums but this is something that is right up there in the top.

But to make it clear on what side of the fence Turkey is

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/turkish-pm-ahmet-davutoglu--muhammad-cartoons-provocation-charlie-hebdo

When a prime-minister comes out and says something like he clearly isn't representing a secular stand, but a clear non-secular. Not to mention that he is showing strong anti-semitism and just puts more fuel on the extremists fire.

lol victim blaming

France does seem to hate Muslims though

Can you blame them?

So in other words you didn't understand a word I said. Good.

No but their shiity backward arabized culture will never be a european thing.

Reza Aslan is and has always been a hypocrite, intellectually dishonest, constantly spews half-truths and has forever espoused the idea that religions are never the cause for anything a human has ever done. He's a muslim apologist and a downright fraud. Look up his debates with Sam Harris, he drops his guise there and is revealed for the fool he is.

How about insanity that is fueled by religion?

@alim298: What's wrong with passing laws based on religious beliefs?!? Are you seriously asking this question? What bubble are you living in?

Yes I'm seriously asking this question. Not my problem that some people are too idiot to comprehend it. If a religious belief is good and makes for a good law you should make it a law otherwise you're a moron. Are you a moron?

religious belief is based off of archaic text, so no, that's not gonna fly in the 21st century. so let me ask you, what religious beliefs do you feel should be put into law? and what's your definition of "good"? the bible and koran both condemn gays to death, should that be turned into law? or how about the stoning of adulterers? or how about slavery? you see how taking philosophies based off of books from from hundreds and thousands of years ago and trying to allow them to influence laws today is kind of ridiculous?

also, the fact that you feel the need to insult me just shows how defensive you are and that you probably don't have a very good argument to back up your ludicrous statement.

Maybe they need to grow some thicker skin. Look at south park, it makes fun of Jesus all the time yet most Christians just ignore it or grow a sense of humor.

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but assume it is. The "He's really smart" part gave it away.

Reza Aslan is a delusional Islamic apologist.

So where does koran say that we should "stone gay people"? It's only in the hadith and there's only one hadith that says so.

So based on western laws adulteress shouldn't be punished? So my wife can cheat on me and face zero consequences. Okay. As for what the type of punishment should be yes we don't have to stone people anymore.

It's abolished so...

You were the first to insult me by implying that I live in a bubble.

Well that's a tough one because many religious laws are already part of the so-called secular law. For instance paying taxes is a religious obligation in Islam. So is financially supporting your family.

homosexuality is punishable by death according to sharia law. disgusting.

LMAO yes of course your wife can cheat on you and not have to fear lawful punishment or "consequences" (are you referring to physical harm or what? i'm not sure)! how is that even a question? unless by consequences you mean the end of the marriage, then yeah.

ummm...yeah slavery is abolished, for the most part. though many would argue it remains prevalent to this day, but that's beyond the point. my initial point stands, religious texts endorse slavery and obviously should not have any influence on modern day law.

i don't see how asking you if you live in a bubble/echo chamber is insulting, but whatever. frivolous either way.

paying taxes has nothing to do with religion in the west, i don't know about the middle east or muslim majority countries. it's a moot point anyways, taxes would be here whether islam had anything to say about it or not.

you still have not answered me on what religious beliefs you would or think should be put into law. you brought up many religious beliefs are already part of secular law, what ones are you referring to?

@JustPlainLucas: yes, he doesn't condone the killing, he does however believe that we should do everything the killers say. (Or they will kill more of us) "Moderate Muslims" do not stand against extremists, they stand right beside them.