This is fncked up. http://news.yahoo.com/ferrell-kerrick-police-unarmed-shooting-charlotte-191520307.html
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This is fncked up. http://news.yahoo.com/ferrell-kerrick-police-unarmed-shooting-charlotte-191520307.html
No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.As he should have been. What is the issue?
WhiteKnight77
[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.As he should have been. What is the issue?
AmazonTreeBoa
Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." articleif he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason.
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.As he should have been. What is the issue?
Sword-Demon
Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." articleif he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason. How is that attacking, he was probably running to them for help...
[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.Person0
Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." articleif he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason. How is that attacking, he was probably running to them for help...
According to this and other articles, he refused orders to stop, was hit with a taser, which he walked through as if nothing happened, and continued on towards the officers (one officer in particular) who THEN after all of that, discharged his weapon.
Not saying the police officer was in the right, simply saying that its not like he ran towards them waving his hands yelling for help only to be shot.
[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.According to the story the man charged at the officers before he was shot. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in shock and didn't realized what he was doing, which is why I believe a through investigation is needed.On the other hand, your comments make it sound like the officer just walked up to him after the crash and filled him full of bullets for no reason whatsoever. Just a little bit misleading compared to what was reported.As he should have been. What is the issue?
AmazonTreeBoa
[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]You're right. It's never good to corner a savage and afraid animal. This is so edgy lol so edgy wow such edgeits never a good idea to charge at police officers
Rich3232
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.As he should have been. What is the issue?
Sword-Demon
Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." articleif he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason. He never attacked the police. And he may not have been all their in the head due to the accident. It could have knocked him loopy for all we know.
if he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason. How is that attacking, he was probably running to them for help...[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"] [quote="article"] Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." Squeets
According to this and other articles, he refused orders to stop, was hit with a taser, which he walked through as if nothing happened, and continued on towards the officers (one officer in particular) who THEN after all of that, discharged his weapon.
Not saying the police officer was in the right, simply saying that its not like he ran towards them waving his hands yelling for help only to be shot.
So 1 taser shot then straight to bullets.... it was 3 vs 1. plenty of other things to use like another taser, pepper spay, hands, batons....[QUOTE="Flubbbs"]You're right. It's never good to corner a savage and afraid animal.Whoa wtf where have you been?its never a good idea to charge at police officers
Rich3232
You're right. It's never good to corner a savage and afraid animal.Whoa wtf where have you been? me?[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="Flubbbs"]
its never a good idea to charge at police officers
Aljosa23
[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.Person0
Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." articleif he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason. How is that attacking, he was probably running to them for help... I really have no idea, but when you say someone is "charging" at you, that carries an aggressive connotation. and if you see 3 police officers with a taser and a gun pointed at you, what person in their right mind would think running/charging at them is a good idea? that thought process just doesn't add up to me. and did this guy not have a cell phone he could use to call for help? maybe the crash addled his brain or something, idk
Kerrick and two other responding officers surrounded Ferrell, who immediately charged at the police, Monroe said. One officer tried unsuccessfully to subdue Ferrell with a taser. Kerrick then fired his weapon "several times." articleif he was looking for help, you'd think he'd ask for it, rather than attacking three police officers. shooting him was definitely excessive, considering that they had 3 officers who could have subdued him; but it's not as simple as a cop shooting an innocent person for no reason. How is that attacking, he was probably running to them for help... I really have no idea, but when you say someone is "charging" at you, that carries an aggressive connotation. and if you see 3 police officers with a taser and a gun pointed at you, what person in their right mind would think running/charging at them is a good idea? that thought process just doesn't add up to me. and did this guy not have a cell phone he could use to call for help? maybe the crash addled his brain or something, idk Well that's why they use a word like charge. He had no idea whats going on, he was just in a crash and the house he went to wouldn't help him, cops are supposed to be helpful.
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]No it's not messed up that the cop was charged. It is messed up that the cop killed an unarmed man that was simply looking for help.According to the story the man charged at the officers before he was shot. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in shock and didn't realized what he was doing, which is why I believe a through investigation is needed.As he should have been. What is the issue?
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On the other hand, your comments make it sound like the officer just walked up to him after the crash and filled him full of bullets for no reason whatsoever. Just a little bit misleading compared to what was reported.
The officers, not knowing what really transpired should have been a bit more cautious. Now, the woman could have asked what was going on and might have gotten an answer as to what was happening and why a stranger was pounding on her door in the middle of the night (relatively). I don't know about anyone else, but any crash I have been in was enough to put me in shock (and anger over a drunk running a red light in one instance). It really is hard enough to tell cops what happened in daylight, much less after dark and half mile from where the wreck happened.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Whoa wtf where have you been? College and shit. I know dat feel, bro, I know.[QUOTE="Rich3232"] You're right. It's never good to corner a savage and afraid animal.Rich3232
Ever thought the guy was injured and disoriented? Also, in police terms, taking a step towards officers unsolicited is referred to as a "charge".its never a good idea to charge at police officers
Flubbbs
[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"] I really have no idea, but when you say someone is "charging" at you, that carries an aggressive connotation. and if you see 3 police officers with a taser and a gun pointed at you, what person in their right mind would think running/charging at them is a good idea? that thought process just doesn't add up to me. and did this guy not have a cell phone he could use to call for help? maybe the crash addled his brain or something, idkSword-DemonWell that's why they use a word like charge. He had no idea whats going on, he was just in a crash and the house he went to wouldn't help him, cops are supposed to be helpful. none of us know what was going on in his head, so there's no sense in acting like you do. I'm not saying the cops were right, shooting him was definitely excessive; but put yourself in their shoes: you were just called to a house for an attempted break-in, you surround the suspect (not knowing he was just in a car accident), who immediately starts running towards you. you order him to stop, he doesn't listen. you shoot him with a taser, he doesn't stop. Now what? If I were in that situation, I'd say it would be pretty easy to see that as an attack, rather than someone asking for your help. like I said, shooting was excessive, but under the circumstances, you can't blame them for seeing him as a threat. Well all we have is officer's account who are going to twist the story to make themselves sound better.
I still dont get the whole tased -> shot part. A taser has a really short range and if I guy is running at you if the taser fails you have no time, the cop must have shot pretty much instantly after the other cop shot a taser. He probably didn't even feel the taser or have time to react to it before getting shot.
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
LostProphetFLCL
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
sSubZerOo
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
Judging from his photos, I expect an excuse to be that he was a college football player with above average athleticism and normal police are not capable of physical confrontations against that level of ability, so they resort to weapons. Deadly force was then used in order to subdue a menacing threat that at that point might have just been intimidating because of his size.[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
BranKetra
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
Judging from his photos, I expect an excuse to be that he was a college football player with above average athleticism and normal police are not capable of physical confrontations against that level of ability, so they resort to weapons. Deadly force was then used in order to subdue a menacing threat that at that point might have just been intimidating because of his size.Three grown men, trained to deal with this stuff.. With tasers, pepper spray and numerous other such things.. And if they were intimidated, guess what? Don't be police officer.. I can't stand these excuses for police officers when it comes to things like this.. If they can't properly handle situation like this, how the hell can we trust them with this point forward with any physical altercation that may occur with a suspect?
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
sSubZerOo
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
Like I said the shooting was a bit excessive, but if you have a guy suppossedly NOT being effected by a tasing I would be more than a little concerned that said person might be riding some psycho high giving them extreme strength.
I do think they should have tried restraining, but I can see someone panicking when a man comes charging at them while brushing off th shock of a taser. That is scary **** and you never know if someone might be high on something making them MONSTERS physically.
Regardless of how justified shooting was, 7 shots definitely sounds quite excessive to me. The officer pretty much emptied a full clip into the man...
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
LostProphetFLCL
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
Like I said the shooting was a bit excessive, but if you have a guy suppossedly NOT being effected by a tasing I would be more than a little concerned that said person might be riding some psycho high giving them extreme strength.
I do think they should have tried restraining, but I can see someone panicking when a man comes charging at them while brushing off th shock of a taser. That is scary **** and you never know if someone might be high on something making them MONSTERS physically.
Regardless of how justified shooting was, 7 shots definitely sounds quite excessive to me. The officer pretty much emptied a full clip into the man...
That makes absolutely no sense.. You know how a taser works right? Because you could be in psycho high and it wouldn't make difference.. When your tased your muscles contract and they work against you, causing you to collapse..
Do you think drugs are the only reason why a person would be unaffected by electric shock?Like I said the shooting was a bit excessive, but if you have a guy suppossedly NOT being effected by a tasing I would be more than a little concerned that said person might be riding some psycho high giving them extreme strength.
LostProphetFLCL
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Sad situation.
If the officers involved ARE telling the truth then I kind of understand where the shooting came in, granted it was still excessive (especially 7 bullets I think they said) and not their best option, but they can't read minds and know what the man was thinking and if he charged like they said they had a right to defend themselves.
Sad thing is that this could very well be true and the man likely was just suffering from a closed head injury which can make people aggressive. I have actually taken care of patients with closed head injuries and at least one was very combative anytime we tried to help take care of them. Their brain gets messed up and they suddenly don't know what is going on and such changes can very easily bring up an aggressive response.
sSubZerOo
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
Like I said the shooting was a bit excessive, but if you have a guy suppossedly NOT being effected by a tasing I would be more than a little concerned that said person might be riding some psycho high giving them extreme strength.
I do think they should have tried restraining, but I can see someone panicking when a man comes charging at them while brushing off th shock of a taser. That is scary **** and you never know if someone might be high on something making them MONSTERS physically.
Regardless of how justified shooting was, 7 shots definitely sounds quite excessive to me. The officer pretty much emptied a full clip into the man...
That makes absolutely no sense.. You know how a taser works right? Because you could be in psycho high and it wouldn't make difference.. When your tased your muscles contract and they work against you, causing you to collapse..
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Well ACCORDING TO THE OFFICERS the taser DID NOT EFFECT the man. Now if they aren't full of **** (which there is a good chance they ARE in this situation) would a man not being effected by said device not be cause for concern?
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]
[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
I don't.. If THREE officers can't handle a single unarmed guy with out resorting to gunning him down.. It's time for a career change, because if they can't handle those odds.. How the hell can I trust them patroling the streets and keeping people safe?
LostProphetFLCL
Like I said the shooting was a bit excessive, but if you have a guy suppossedly NOT being effected by a tasing I would be more than a little concerned that said person might be riding some psycho high giving them extreme strength.
I do think they should have tried restraining, but I can see someone panicking when a man comes charging at them while brushing off th shock of a taser. That is scary **** and you never know if someone might be high on something making them MONSTERS physically.
Regardless of how justified shooting was, 7 shots definitely sounds quite excessive to me. The officer pretty much emptied a full clip into the man...
That makes absolutely no sense.. You know how a taser works right? Because you could be in psycho high and it wouldn't make difference.. When your tased your muscles contract and they work against you, causing you to collapse..
[/QUOTE
Well ACCORDING TO THE OFFICERS the taser DID NOT EFFECT the man. Now if they aren't full of **** (which there is a good chance they ARE in this situation) would a man not being effected by said device not be cause for concern?
Maybe the cop should aim better.Why do you have to assume the lady was racist? The guy comes at the door in the middle of the night banging on the door thinking its her husband, she was basically alone.IF he was white he would have lived. The lady would have let him in and sit down and call an ambulance.
The police would have hugged him and called an ambulance.
Jankarcop
[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]Why do you have to assume the lady was racist? The guy comes at the door in the middle of the night banging on the door thinking its her husband, she was basically alone. never heard of a thief that knocks before entering.IF he was white he would have lived. The lady would have let him in and sit down and call an ambulance.
The police would have hugged him and called an ambulance.
fueled-system
[QUOTE="fueled-system"][QUOTE="Jankarcop"]Why do you have to assume the lady was racist? The guy comes at the door in the middle of the night banging on the door thinking its her husband, she was basically alone. never heard of a thief that knocks before entering......You would be surprised I guess.IF he was white he would have lived. The lady would have let him in and sit down and call an ambulance.
The police would have hugged him and called an ambulance.
-Renegade
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