oscar nod for Heath Ledger?

How much of this oscar talk for Heath Ledger is brought on because of his death?

In other words, would he be getting all this hype if he we're still alive?

I think he would. How about you?

We will never know if he would have been nominated if he was alive or not. I think he deserves the award. Not because of his death, but because it was one of the best performances of the year. There was Oscar talk way before his death.sammyjenkis898

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]We will never know if he would have been nominated if he was alive or not. I think he deserves the award. Not because of his death, but because it was one of the best performances of the year. There was Oscar talk way before his death.gobo212

Overrated performance.gobo212

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[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]We will never know if he would have been nominated if he was alive or not. I think he deserves the award. Not because of his death, but because it was one of the best performances of the year. There was Oscar talk way before his death.sammyjenkis898

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]We will never know if he would have been nominated if he was alive or not. I think he deserves the award. Not because of his death, but because it was one of the best performances of the year. There was Oscar talk way before his death.gobo212

I think both were a bit over rated..but I think he still deserved a nomination.

edit: by both I mean TDK and Ledger's performance.

[QUOTE="gobo212"] Overrated performance.biggest_loser

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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="gobo212"] But he died before the movie came out.gobo212

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]We will never know if he would have been nominated if he was alive or not. I think he deserves the award. Not because of his death, but because it was one of the best performances of the year. There was Oscar talk way before his death.MAILER_DAEMON

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[QUOTE="gobo212"] Overrated performance.gobo212

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[QUOTE="gobo212"] Overrated performance.biggest_loser

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[QUOTE="gobo212"] Overrated performance.sAndroid17

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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="gobo212"] Ok now what?gobo212

[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] You watched it. Good. Now you can understand the amount of effort that he went to to transform himself from a role like that in Two Hands to the Joker in The Dark Knight. Can you just tell me why you think its overrated? By that do you mean that you've heard about it too much? Or is there some different approach to the acting of the performance that you would have researched had you been selected for the role of The Joker in an alternate universe!! Starring Gobo! Gobo! Gobo! As the Joker! Joker! Jokerrr!!biggest_loser

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="gobo212"] Why are you so defensive about this? I never claimed I could do a better job. He didn't do a bad job but I didn't think any of the acting in Dark Knight was award worthy (and Christian Bale is downright bad in it).gobo212

I'll totally grant you that one, but still, remember, it is the lesser of two weevils.

Its pathetic that a certain group of people will always believe that the praise for his role as the joker is due to his untimely death.Cloud_Insurance

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He did a good job, but, I think if he was alive, Aaron Eckhart would have been given the nomination.Andrew_Xavier

Yes someone who agrees with me, I thought Harvey Dent's character was better

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="gobo212"] But he died before the movie came out.gobo212

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Its pathetic that a certain group of people will always believe that the praise for his role as the joker is due to his untimely death.sammyjenkis898

Why, exactly, is that pathetic?

I think he deserves it. That was one of the craziest most sadistic characters I have ever seen. He did a phenominal job with it.Guybrush_3

Javier Bardem as Chigurh in No Country for Old Men owns Heath Ledger as The Joker.

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Its pathetic that a certain group of people will always believe that the praise for his role as the joker is due to his untimely death.chessmaster1989

Why, exactly, is that pathetic?

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]I think he deserves it. That was one of the craziest most sadistic characters I have ever seen. He did a phenominal job with it.chessmaster1989

Javier Bardem as Chigurh in No Country for Old Men owns Heath Ledger as The Joker.

Its much harder for an actor to give a faithful and widely accepted interpretation of a highly identifiable and recognizable character such as the Joker than it is to play a role that while defined in another medium, is nowhere close to being as established or rigid. So while Chigurh was given an identity in the book, Bardem was given plenty of leeway in portraying him. As long as he makes the character believable, its a success. With the Joker its a different story.

The Joker has been around for close to 70 years, several generations of people have been exposed to him in one medium or another (comics, tv, film). Every one of those people with more than a passing interest in the character has their own idea of who is he, how he is. So for Ledger to succeed in the role, its not just about making his character seem real, tangible. He had to play it in such a way that the majority of the fans (of one degree or another) deemed "correct" if you will. I think its safe to say that people of all ages thought Ledger did a true and faithful realization of the character. Its not just that he looked the part (but that is a big part of it obviously, since what we see with our eyes is one of the main ways we identify a person or character). It was his mannerisms, his speech, his stance, how he carried himself, how he played with his knives, all of that stuff.