So, I'm sitting here being lazy and watching one of the older Mods opening a can and handing out some lockage. So what's your opinion? Find them a pain in the ass, or do you find them warm, and secure, making your forum safe like a nice warm shot of whiskey?
i kinda like the lousy buggers....not only do they keep trash out....but they also provide some of the more meaningful comments and posts around here....;)
I can understand why people dislike them but they're just doing their job. However, it seems like they get power hungry sometimes. Like yesterday, I got my post deleted for flaming but I was actually complimenting the person :?
Some of em do a good job keeping the peace on GS, however there are times where at least 1 or 2 mods look for a reason to moderate someone........so iguess im 50-50 on the subject.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I find the ambiguity of the ToU to be the problem. Mods can only work with what they're given.....double_decker
If you had the chance what would you change about the ToU?
Actually what I would do was only let users report serious violations. Too many posters use dislike to get minor violations against another user. I'd limit disruptive posting more though. As long as it conveys a thought....it should be fine whether it's one word or not.
Too lazy to edit your quote, so I'll post it here DD:
Perhaps I should reword what I meant. It's not that the rules are too strict, the mods are. They really don't allow for funny or cool threads. It's understandable though, since some people take it too seriously or don't know how to respond appropriately.
Intending to solely annoy or offend another user, which you usually know in your head while typing your post. Being mean, condescending, disrespectful, etc. Specifically directed of course. If you can't be nice, then don't say it basically.
Actually what I would do was only let users report serious violations. Too many posters use dislike to get minor violations against another user. I'd limit disruptive posting more though. As long as it conveys a thought....it should be fine whether it's one word or not.
LJS9502_basic
Yeah, for instance, the blank quote glitch, it's a glitch and shouldn't be Moderated as disruptive, just deleted. For the most part I find things fair though, for my Moderations I was asking for it and knew I was doing wrong when I was Modded, and in a few cases it probably should have even been worse
Oh I almost forgot the whole moderation discussion rule is ****ing stupid. I should be able to talk about my moderation. If other people start making problems because of that, it's their fault, not mine. I shouldn't have to top discussing it, this is a forum, that is what it is for. Stopping people from discussing something because of someone elses immaturity seems pretty stupid. But perhaps they have a good reason.
Intending to solely annoy or offend another user, which you usually know in your head while typing your post. Being mean, condescending, disrespectful, etc. Specifically directed of course. If you can't be nice, then don't say it basically.
They use it as an umbrella item to more or less delete anything they don't like. Sometimes people need to be told things in slightly harsher terms and if you can't even imply to somebody they are acting stupid or nonsensical then they remove an important part of the discourse.
Too lazy to edit your quote, so I'll post it here DD:
Perhaps I should reword what I meant. It's not that the rules are too strict, the mods are. They really don't allow for funny or cool threads. It's understandable though, since some people take it too seriously or don't know how to respond appropriately.
The_Ish
Most threads are just locked and given an explanation if they should be blogged etc and not moderated from what I have saw around here. It's when users get redundant, or ignore warnings when serious action is taken from what I have experienced. Alot of the "cool" threads if they were allowed then you'd have 50 users making the same kind of thread, just so they could have a thread with alot of posts. From the way I interpret it's a "give an inch, take a mile kind of thing"
Oh I almost forgot the whole moderation discussion rule is ****ing stupid. I should be able to talk about my moderation. If other people start making problems because of that, it's their fault, not mine. I shouldn't have to top discussing it, this is a forum, that is what it is for. Stopping people from discussing something because of someone elses immaturity seems pretty stupid. But perhaps they have a good reason.The_Ish
Last I knew it was ok to discuss it in blog or if you have a problem about your Moderation they have Ask the Mods or Customer Support for clarification. Allowing such a thing in the forums would just lead to a bunch of threads of people saying "OMG, I was Modded, who else thinks this is B.S.!?!?!" etc
They use it as an umbrella item to more or less delete anything they don't like. Sometimes people need to be told things in slightly harsher terms and if you can't even imply to somebody they are acting stupid or nonsensical then they remove an important part of the discourse.
Aidenfury19
You can state whether or not you agree or not, it's when you specifically direct negative comments at a certain user it's considered trolling/offensive. If you don't like a thread, or someone's comment, then articulate, and say something like "I hate these kind of threads" or just ignore altogether, or if you don't like someone's opinion they stated then find a way to explain why you think it's b.s. without resorting to name calling or being vulgar about it
Too lazy to edit your quote, so I'll post it here DD:
Perhaps I should reword what I meant. It's not that the rules are too strict, the mods are. They really don't allow for funny or cool threads. It's understandable though, since some people take it too seriously or don't know how to respond appropriately.
double_decker
Most threads are just locked and given an explanation if they should be blogged etc and not moderated from what I have saw around here. It's when users get redundant, or ignore warnings when serious action is taken from what I have experienced. Alot of the "cool" threads if they were allowed then you'd have 50 users making the same kind of thread, just so they could have a thread with alot of posts. From the way I interpret it's a "give an inch, take a mile kind of thing"
Then they should lock those copycat threads instead of suspending and moderating indiscriminately. It does not help the users if they can't talk about something because a bunch of jerks or kids don't know how post like they are supposed to.
Eh...we can't do anything about it anyways. From what it seems, the staff leader Bethany seems like a Nazi about these things.
[QUOTE="The_Ish"]Oh I almost forgot the whole moderation discussion rule is ****ing stupid. I should be able to talk about my moderation. If other people start making problems because of that, it's their fault, not mine. I shouldn't have to top discussing it, this is a forum, that is what it is for. Stopping people from discussing something because of someone elses immaturity seems pretty stupid. But perhaps they have a good reason.double_decker
Last I knew it was ok to discuss it in blog or if you have a problem about your Moderation they have Ask the Mods or Customer Support for clarification. Allowing such a thing in the forums would just lead to a bunch of threads of people saying "OMG, I was Modded, who else thinks this is B.S.!?!?!" etc
Of course, thats pointless, but I am talking about when people are trying to figure out why their friends were suspended or banned.
Eh...we can't do anything about it anyways. From what it seems, the staff leader Bethany seems like a Nazi about these things.
The_Ish
It's about discretion and I agree they shouldn't Mod unless it's a clearly defined reason, but also if they are "power hungry" or "biased" etc they do have to answer for their actions and injustices can be righted, they are people and not perfect. Which is why there is "Ask the Mods" and "Customer Support" and why would you say that about Bethany? I've never dealt with her personally. But JodyR has been more than fair with myself or a few other users I know of
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