Mitt Romney pays a paltry 15% in taxes, how about you?

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#1 BrianB0422
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Millionaire Mitt Romney pays his fair share... A whopping 15% in taxes last year. I personally pay about 26%, how much do you pay OT?

Formula: Amount paid in taxes / Gross pay

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still too much, i pay well into the 40's including state and local, and i am not going to hate a man because he pays a lower amount, i will hate the state for asking for so much though.
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Just put all your money into the stock market and investments and you will only pay 15% as well. Granted you could lose everything, but that's the price you pay for investing your money.

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only fools the low and middle classes pay the correct taxes
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Just put all your money into the stock market and investments and you will only pay 15% as well. Granted you could lose everything, but that's the price you pay for investing your money.

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not if youre a political insider, then you know where the political money is going before it gets there and you can invest accordingly. for some reason this form of insider trading is legal.

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only fools the low and middle classes pay the correct taxesEmpCom
The tax rate is progressive on wages/salaries, etc. So if you make more in wages, you pay a higher salary. The lower effective tax rate for some wealthy people is because they make a large share of their money in invesments or the market. The tax rate for those is signficantly lower. They are paying the "correct" amount. No one is cheating, the taxes on capital gains are just lower. Whether you make 10$ or 10 million, the capital gains tax rate is flat. It's done to encourage investment since that is what drives an economy. Reform is always a possibility, however.
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#7 comp_atkins
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all combined ( state, local, fed, fica ) over 40%
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#8 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

Just put all your money into the stock market and investments and you will only pay 15% as well. Granted you could lose everything, but that's the price you pay for investing your money.

surrealnumber5

not if youre a political insider, then you know where the political money is going before it gets there and you can invest accordingly. for some reason this form of insider trading is legal.

well, politicians have to make a living don't they? we can't expect them to get by on their gov't salaries alone.
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"]only fools the low and middle classes pay the correct taxessonicare
The tax rate is progressive on wages/salaries, etc. So if you make more in wages, you pay a higher salary. The lower effective tax rate for some wealthy people is because they make a large share of their money in invesments or the market. The tax rate for those is signficantly lower. They are paying the "correct" amount. No one is cheating, the taxes on capital gains are just lower. Whether you make 10$ or 10 million, the capital gains tax rate is flat. It's done to encourage investment since that is what drives an economy. Reform is always a possibility, however.

Lol keep believing that all anyone with money needs is a good tax lawyer and accountant and hey presto
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I have no idea what percent I pay and I don't really care.
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"] The tax rate is progressive on wages/salaries, etc. So if you make more in wages, you pay a higher salary. The lower effective tax rate for some wealthy people is because they make a large share of their money in invesments or the market. The tax rate for those is signficantly lower. They are paying the "correct" amount. No one is cheating, the taxes on capital gains are just lower. Whether you make 10$ or 10 million, the capital gains tax rate is flat. It's done to encourage investment since that is what drives an economy. Reform is always a possibility, however.sonicare
[QUOTE="EmpCom"]only fools the low and middle classes pay the correct taxessonicare
The tax rate is progressive on wages/salaries, etc. So if you make more in wages, you pay a higher salary. The lower effective tax rate for some wealthy people is because they make a large share of their money in invesments or the market. The tax rate for those is signficantly lower. They are paying the "correct" amount. No one is cheating, the taxes on capital gains are just lower. Whether you make 10$ or 10 million, the capital gains tax rate is flat. It's done to encourage investment since that is what drives an economy. Reform is always a possibility, however.

"No one is cheating" Spoken like a true chump
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I think I pay in the 30s. And what do I care how much some other guy pays? I'm sure his 15% was many multiples larger than my 30%
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I think I pay in the 30s. And what do I care how much some other guy pays? I'm sure his 15% was many multiples larger than my 30%FragStains
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]I think I pay in the 30s. And what do I care how much some other guy pays? I'm sure his 15% was many multiples larger than my 30%EmpCom
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You ok, man?
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#15 EmpCom
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="FragStains"]I think I pay in the 30s. And what do I care how much some other guy pays? I'm sure his 15% was many multiples larger than my 30%FragStains
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You ok, man?

No not really
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[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Shakes head EmpCom
You ok, man?

No not really

It's all right bro. If you were as cool as Romney, maybe you'd be able to finesse the system too.
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#17 Franklinstein
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9% on all sales... but also about 18-22% of my income... Sales tax is where they get you though.
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[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Shakes head EmpCom
You ok, man?

No not really

Anything I can help with?
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I have no idea what percent I pay and I don't really care.Jandurin
i wish i had a cool wife who took care of all the tax stuff, taxes suck. *jelly*
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="FragStains"]You ok, man?FragStains
No not really

Anything I can help with?

Not unless you are a tax advisor
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I have no idea what percent I pay and I don't really care.surrealnumber5
i wish i had a cool wife who took care of all the tax stuff, taxes suck. *jelly*

I do the taxes for both of us :x
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="FragStains"]You ok, man?Jandurin
No not really

It's all right bro. If you were as cool as Romney, maybe you'd be able to finesse the system too.

Aint that the truth
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A rough estimate for mine would be 25%, so sad when I look at my paystubs and see how much is gone

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I don't blame those people who want to make taxes as low as possible. It's not like our government makes good use out of tax payer money. I would gladly pay 30-40% in taxes, if it were to be put to good use. But nope. Not in this country.

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I don't blame those people who want to make taxes as low as possible. It's not like our government makes good use out of tax payer money. I would gladly pay 30-40% in taxes, if it were to be put to good use. But nope. Not in this country.

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Roads and parks.
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#26 ColdExistence
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[QUOTE="ColdExistence"]

I don't blame those people who want to make taxes as low as possible. It's not like our government makes good use out of tax payer money. I would gladly pay 30-40% in taxes, if it were to be put to good use. But nope. Not in this country.

Jandurin
Roads and parks.

The US has some of the most ****ed up roads I've ever seen, so I'm guessing they're not even using it for that anymore.
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The US has some of the most ****ed up roads I've ever seen, so I'm guessing they're not even using it for that anymore. ColdExistence
Well, that would depend on the state/county, surely.
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[QUOTE="ColdExistence"]The US has some of the most ****ed up roads I've ever seen, so I'm guessing they're not even using it for that anymore. Jandurin
Well, that would depend on the state/county, surely.

You ever try driving across the US, say, from Texas to Kansas, for example? Very bad. Lots and lots of very, very bad roads. Makes it seem the problem persists all over the country.

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You ever try driving across the US, say, from Texas to Kansas, for example? Very bad. Lots and lots of very, very bad roads. Makes it seem the problem persists all over the country.

ColdExistence
I drove from Maryland to Tennessee to Mississippi to Louisiana to Dallas once. And all up and down the East Coast.
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They are resurfacing a lot of the old roads in my city (Raleigh). Even the roads that are perfect they are resurfacing. RESURFACE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! But seriously, they are only doing the wealthy parts right now.
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[QUOTE="ColdExistence"]

You ever try driving across the US, say, from Texas to Kansas, for example? Very bad. Lots and lots of very, very bad roads. Makes it seem the problem persists all over the country.

Jandurin
I drove from Maryland to Tennessee to Mississippi to Louisiana to Dallas once. And all up and down the East Coast.

Did you not encounter lots of crappy ass roads?
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Did you not encounter lots of crappy ass roads? ColdExistence
Yeah, sometimes. But on a whole, they're in great shape. The bigger issue was some counties/states decided not to clean up busted tires so there was like rubber strewn about :x
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="ColdExistence"]

You ever try driving across the US, say, from Texas to Kansas, for example? Very bad. Lots and lots of very, very bad roads. Makes it seem the problem persists all over the country.

ColdExistence
I drove from Maryland to Tennessee to Mississippi to Louisiana to Dallas once. And all up and down the East Coast.

Did you not encounter lots of crappy ass roads?

That has much to do with gas taxes, which in most states have not been raised to keep up with inflation.
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They are resurfacing a lot of the old roads in my city (Raleigh). Even the roads that are perfect they are resurfacing. RESURFACE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! But seriously, they are only doing the wealthy parts right now.stanleycup98
As it should be as the poor shouldnt have cars
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[QUOTE="ColdExistence"]Did you not encounter lots of crappy ass roads? Jandurin
Yeah, sometimes. But on a whole, they're in great shape. The bigger issue was some counties/states decided not to clean up busted tires so there was like rubber strewn about :x

Well, exactly, then. Fookin noobs are wasting tax payer money on raising their salaries, I bet.
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wasting tax payer money on raising their salaries, I bet. ColdExistence
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[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] No not really EmpCom
Anything I can help with?

Not unless you are a tax advisor

He can help.

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Taxes are evil and a form of socialism. They should be done away with so the government could finally get some extra income and then it could fix some roads with said income.
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Taxes are evil and a form of socialism. They should be done away with so the government could finally get some extra income and then it could fix some roads with said income. Serraph105
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Taxes are evil and a form of socialism. They should be done away with so the government could finally get some extra income and then it could fix some roads with said income. Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="ColdExistence"]The US has some of the most ****ed up roads I've ever seen, so I'm guessing they're not even using it for that anymore. ColdExistence

Well, that would depend on the state/county, surely.

You ever try driving across the US, say, from Texas to Kansas, for example? Very bad. Lots and lots of very, very bad roads. Makes it seem the problem persists all over the country.

drove this loop ( 7500+ miles ) over the summer. for the most part the roads were all in excellent shape though there was a lot of maintenance going on.

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Neat.
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I do like the idea of a government that acts exactly like a corporation. You could pay them for the services you are interested in, and skip out on all the ones you don't want. But too bad everybody is so damn greedy and tries to find more ways to screw people out of their money.

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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="FragStains"]Anything I can help with?superfluidity

Not unless you are a tax advisor

He can help.

But he is ginger thus untrustworthy
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"] But he is ginger thus untrustworthy

Lack of a soul =/= untrustworthiness
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I do like the idea of a government that acts exactly like a corporation. You could pay them for the services you are interested in, and skip out on all the ones you don't want. But too bad everybody is so damn greedy and tries to find more ways to screw people out of their money.

ColdExistence
That works for most things but who would pay for the military, then? And would people with no kids want to pay for education (which we can all agree is pretty important to civilization?)
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] But he is ginger thus untrustworthy

Lack of a soul =/= untrustworthiness

It's true. Look at me :)
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#48 DaBrainz
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How about instead of complaining about Mitt paying too little, we complain about regular folks playing too much. I would like to see more transparency when it comes to all taxes. It seems we are nickeled and dimed to death and most people don't even know it or realize how much of a dollar is actually taxed. An example of this is gasoline taxes, Michigan charges 50 cents a gallon tax, most states have similar taxes. It should be in real big letters at the pump that the government has you by the balls.
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I have found that the more rectangular the state, the better the roads.
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Since i was unemployed this last year and was on state benefits for it i owe the irs about $3000 in taxes this year. Let that sink in, i don't have a job, i don't have any money coming consistently in but i owe the irs 3 grand because i can't find a job in this super awesome economy. luckily i got enough to cover that but it's a little ridiculous when you look at it like that.