Lost my job to a girl

Ok, so recently I have been waiting to hear back from a distribution warehouse that I applied to for a job that my buddy works at, and today he told me that the position I was applying for was taken...and they gave it to a 18 year old girl (I'm 19). Now I am no sexist or anything, but the reason why this absolutely baffles me is that the entire job revolves around lifting, moving, and loading hevy crates/boxes into trucks...100+ lbs...7 hours a day. I am in pretty good shape and I applied to the job specifically because it was the type of manual labor job where you clock in, work, and clock out just like I was wanting.

Empirically I would be able to do the job better than this chick, any average young male would be able to, yet because of the bull**** political tape and regulations they probably hired this girl because of I am out of the job, a perfectly capable young male perfectly suited for the requirments of the job. So now I am forced to go back looking for some crappy dead end retail job or looking back into the military, because I simply refuse to have my parents spend money for a university degree and I refuse to be buried in debt for the rest of my young adult life.

Personal issues aside, does anyone else see instances like this as a serious problem? I mean there are always reports/statistics claiming that young males are more involved in crime and drugs, scoring lowers on tests, and being unemployed, but it seems as if the clearly obvious reasons whyare simply being overlooked. When more than capable young males out of Highschool are forced to compete with less competent young women or older men past their prime and losing out and being held back, how can they be expected NOT to get angry and discouraged?

Sorry if I am coming off as sexist, however I find the lack of opportunities for young guys like me to be a serious issue plagueing the U.S. (and me lol).

Haha sucks to be you TC, now you must go make us a sammidge.

If you got the job, she would probably be complaining just like you are, claiming that she is perfectly capable of doing the job.

Maybe she's a wieght lifter or something. Either that or they are required by law to hire a certain number of female employee's. Whatever the reason, it was probably a good one.

Interesting way to justify you not getting the job. Let me guess, you're the type that also believes immigrants are "stealing" your jobs?

Who's to say she didnt have a better work ethic than you did? Or more relevant experience? No, it HAS to be due to gender "affirmitive action."

Interesting way to justify you not getting the job. Let me guess, you're the type that also believes immigrants are "stealing" your jobs?

Who's to say she didnt have a better work ethic than you did? Or more relevant experience? No, it HAS to be due to gender "affirmitive action."

XaosII

Interesting way to justify you not getting the job. Let me guess, you're the type that also believes immigrants are "stealing" your jobs?

Who's to say she didnt have a better work ethic than you did? Or more relevant experience? No, it HAS to be due to gender "affirmitive action."

XaosII

Interesting way to justify you not getting the job. Let me guess, you're the type that also believes immigrants are "stealing" your jobs?

Who's to say she didnt have a better work ethic than you did? Or more relevant experience? No, it HAS to be due to gender "affirmitive action."

You cant just let it end like this TC. For you, for all of us, you must fight back. And besides that employers going to be bummed when he finds out you cant lift heavy boxes in a warehouse from the kitchen.

Womens history month joke of the day.

Relax. I doubt an 18 year old chick is capable of having a better work ethic in that type of job. It's a good knucklehead job for a young man, I don't think an 18 year old girl would have a lot of quality experience lifting boxes in a warehouse. Let me guess, your that feminist type that takes offense to everything?Seajack

And you doubt an 18 year old girl would have the capability because? Its unlikely, but it doesnt meant it can't exist. The fact that she displayed it could have been entirely the reason why she was picked considering the usual nature of it.

No, im not a feminist. Not even a woman. But i have been discriminated over my age before in employment situations. Same faulty logic used by the TC.

Ok, so recently I have been waiting to hear back from a distribution warehouse that I applied to for a job that my buddy works at, and today he told me that the position I was applying for was taken...and they gave it to a 18 year old girl (I'm 19). Now I am no sexist or anything, but the reason why this absolutely baffles me is that the entire job revolves around lifting, moving, and loading hevy crates/boxes into trucks...100+ lbs...7 hours a day. I am in pretty good shape and I applied to the job specifically because it was the type of manual labor job where you clock in, work, and clock out just like I was wanting.

Empirically I would be able to do the job better than this chick, any average young male would be able to, yet because of the bull**** political tape and regulations they probably hired this girl because of I am out of the job, a perfectly capable young male perfectly suited for the requirments of the job. So now I am forced to go back looking for some crappy dead end retail job or looking back into the military, because I simply refuse to have my parents spend money for a university degree and I refuse to be buried in debt for the rest of my young adult life.

Personal issues aside, does anyone else see instances like this as a serious problem? I mean there are always reports/statistics claiming that young males are more involved in crime and drugs, scoring lowers on tests, and being unemployed, but it seems as if the clearly obvious reasons whyare simply being overlooked. When more than capable young males out of Highschool are forced to compete with less competent young women or older men past their prime and losing out and being held back, how can they be expected NOT to get angry and discouraged?

Sorry if I am coming off as sexist, however I find the lack of opportunities for young guys like me to be a serious issue plagueing the U.S. (and me lol).

chandlerr_360

Maybe she came after she applied and give the boss or whoever is hiring and "persuade" him

I honestly do not think that type of job is for her the way you described it.

The job is about lifting and moving boxes, and based off what my friends has told me, I am fairly certain I am physically stronger and more capable than she is. Chances are she has the same exact work experience if not less than I do considering her age.

Whether she was hired to meet a corporate quota or because of some type of bias, it is pretty lame. And I am no trying to "justify" anything, I'm simply trying to make a point that on average young men are more physically capable at completing a strenuos task than a young women, so why certain positions are open to women is beyond me as far as employee efficiency or what not goes...it makes no sense and is unfair. Infantry and direct combat positions in the military are not open to women for this exact reason, although yes I understand that is a whole different animal.chandlerr_360

I'll take your word for your phsyical capabilities.

Maybe she demonstrated that she wanted to job more than you did and she showed up earlier than you and they value punctuality highly. You're immediately jumping to a conclusion thats its their fault and not your own.

There could be plenty of reasons of why she got the job over you that dont involve invoking EEOC. I can think of plenty.

It's generally the boss will think "Oh wait, most of our staff are male, i don't want people thinking i'm sexist!" as this can cause issues when people start complaining about sexism and racism in the workplace. Happens everywhere now, people go around specifically to sue others with only money on their mind so your boss is just covering his behind as not to be rude but guys like us are "Just a number" these days. It's plaguing the world not just the US, i've applied for a few jobs for the summer but been declined by three and no reply from i think 4 others, and i can imagine these jobs might be going to the foreigners just so the companies can say "See... we are not racist, come buy our products!".

[QUOTE="Seajack"] Relax. I doubt an 18 year old chick is capable of having a better work ethic in that type of job. It's a good knucklehead job for a young man, I don't think an 18 year old girl would have a lot of quality experience lifting boxes in a warehouse. Let me guess, your that feminist type that takes offense to everything?XaosII

And you doubt an 18 year old girl would have the capability because? Its unlikely, but it doesnt meant it can't exist. The fact that she displayed it could have been entirely the reason why she was picked considering the usual nature of it.

No, im not a feminist. Not even a woman. But i have been discriminated over my age before in employment situations. Same faulty logic used by the TC.

Umm hate to break your bubble, but he totally out ranks her in the physical area, its innate. Read a biology book. This would make me mad to, it is like there is no logic to the way things work anymore.... So what is the point of bettering yourself if no one cares? I love how emotions, not logic rules the world... And that is what politics are.

Umm hate to break your bubble, but he totally out ranks her in the physical area, its innate. Read a biology book. This would make me mad to, it is like there is no logic to the way things work anymore.... So what is the point of bettering yourself if no one cares?

mahlasor

Well, thats the exact kind of attitude i wouldn't want any employee to have if i were an employer.

There are plenty of reasons she could have gotten the job. If you can't see past the "I R STRONG LIKE BULL. I R GOOD WORKER," maybe thats the reason you wouldn't get the job?

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="Seajack"] Relax. I doubt an 18 year old chick is capable of having a better work ethic in that type of job. It's a good knucklehead job for a young man, I don't think an 18 year old girl would have a lot of quality experience lifting boxes in a warehouse. Let me guess, your that feminist type that takes offense to everything?mahlasor

And you doubt an 18 year old girl would have the capability because? Its unlikely, but it doesnt meant it can't exist. The fact that she displayed it could have been entirely the reason why she was picked considering the usual nature of it.

No, im not a feminist. Not even a woman. But i have been discriminated over my age before in employment situations. Same faulty logic used by the TC.

Umm hate to break your bubble, but he totally out ranks her in the physical area, its innate. Read a biology book. This would make me mad to, it is like there is no logic to the way things work anymore.... So what is the point of bettering yourself if no one cares?

Without actually knowing what this girl looks like or anything, you can't say he outranks her in the physical area. Generally guys are stronger, but she might be built like the Hulk.

Well first I'll state that you ACTUALLY didnt lose YOUR job, you lost a competition for A JOB. All you can do is apply somewhere else and move on.

but if I was you, I'd check back with that company in a few weeks. Ask them how the new employee is doing....if she's really not fit for the job, then she might quit after a couple weeks. you never know, they might still hire you later down the road. Companies are often pressured to hire minorities and women to fill quotas. but sometimes it backfires on them and the person they hire is NOT fit of the job and quits. Then they decide to actually hire someone that is appropriate for the position. Thats how I see it.

I'm not trying to start anything here, and apologies if this comes off insulting ( not trying to be ) but are you sure the job JUST involves moving boxes? It may also involve taking inventory, talking to different departments, being able tocoordinate correctly, etc...Maybe she was smarter and showed more adaptability to varied situations than you? It may be that the company is also looking for someone to promote in the future and not just someone to move boxes around.

Damn bro, tough **** to swallow there :P

She's probably attractive, or at least the hiring manager wants to bone her.

Suck it up and move on.SF_KiLLaMaN

She probably had to do some riding if you know what I mean. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2SvLUOJbgk

because I simply refuse to have my parents spend money for a university degree and I refuse to be buried in debt for the rest of my young adult life.

chandlerr_360

Smart guys don't get into debt.

Sorry if I am coming off as sexist, however I find the lack of opportunities for young guys like me to be a serious issue plagueing the U.S. (and me lol).

chandlerr_360

Stalk her. Then make us sandwiches.JigglyWiggly_

Laughed so hard water came out my nose. Sorry you didnt get the job, and for getting so many not serious responses (most of which are hilarious). However I worked a job like that during a summer in college, and it totally sucked. I worked my ass off stocking 18 wheelers and got paid almost nothing, hopefully the job you were applying for had better pay... So you never know, she might have done you a favor 8)

Date her :D

That sucks man, but hey, live continues, just forget about it, wish her good luck and move on, maybe you'll find something else sooner.