Let's see the political ideology of OT

Mine is center-left. Although i might seem far left, i am more moderate (sometimes to the right) on things like gun control and immigration.

Most of the time I'm center-right, but there are a couple things I'm on the far-right with.

I don't think you're going to get many honest responses, you might have better success linking to that politcal quiz site.

I don't think you're going to get many honest responses, you might have better success linking to that politcal quiz site.

theone86

im nowhere. i do not care about politics in the slightest. such a stupid thing to argue overmems_1224

Same here.

Wherever the idea of higher taxes, less spending, cutting military fits.

Socially im liberal though. My morals don't agree with a lot of things, but I believe everybody should be able to make their choice.

Most of the time I'm center-right, but there are a couple things I'm on the far-right with.

airshocker

To sum up my ideology in as fewest words possible:

freedom = good, authoritarianism = bad

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I don't think you're going to get many honest responses, you might have better success linking to that politcal quiz site.

DroidPhysX

In my experience they haven't. If you ask someone whether they're right/left or center right/left they'll almost always answer with center because of the negative stigma of being associated with a political extreme. That, and center in the U.S. is WAY different from center in other western nations. The test fixes the latter problem by establishing a definite center. As to the former problem, it seems to me that when asked about their positions on specific issues people are far less likely to lie in order to appear centrist.

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Most of the time I'm center-right, but there are a couple things I'm on the far-right with.

3eyedrazorback

Yes, everyone chooses their political ideology based on how cool it will make them look and no one who disagrees with you has any clue about politics:roll:

I'm democrat, but I try to be moderate about it when I talk about politics because I really do enjoy finding common ground. I find that people are more willing to actually listen when you aren't screaming your beliefs at them (metaphical screaming that is) at the top of your lungs. It just makes them dig deeper in their own political beliefs. It really doesn't allow for any decent sort of conversation to take place.

Same here. Though, I fear we may be two of the only ones even close to the right. Though, most people just say they are far left to go with the ebb and flow of everyone else when they don't have the slightest, remote clue about politics.3eyedrazorback

We're far less alone here than you might think. I do sometimes wonder, though, if people say they're liberal just to fit in with the "intellectual elites" on this board.

Last year I voted so much to the left.

But I just randomly vote.
That's what you get for making us vote.

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]Same here. Though, I fear we may be two of the only ones even close to the right. Though, most people just say they are far left to go with the ebb and flow of everyone else when they don't have the slightest, remote clue about politics.airshocker

We're far less alone here than you might think. I do sometimes wonder, though, if people say they're liberal just to fit in with the "intellectual elites" on this board.

I guess I must've missed the point in time when knowledge became a bad thing.

[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]Same here. Though, I fear we may be two of the only ones even close to the right. Though, most people just say they are far left to go with the ebb and flow of everyone else when they don't have the slightest, remote clue about politics.airshocker

We're far less alone here than you might think. I do sometimes wonder, though, if people say they're liberal just to fit in with the "intellectual elites" on this board.

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[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]Same here. Though, I fear we may be two of the only ones even close to the right. Though, most people just say they are far left to go with the ebb and flow of everyone else when they don't have the slightest, remote clue about politics.Theokhoth

We're far less alone here than you might think. I do sometimes wonder, though, if people say they're liberal just to fit in with the "intellectual elites" on this board.

I think he means a liberal.

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[QUOTE="3eyedrazorback"]Same here. Though, I fear we may be two of the only ones even close to the right. Though, most people just say they are far left to go with the ebb and flow of everyone else when they don't have the slightest, remote clue about politics.theone86

We're far less alone here than you might think. I do sometimes wonder, though, if people say they're liberal just to fit in with the "intellectual elites" on this board.

I guess I must've missed the point in time when knowledge became a bad thing.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

We're far less alone here than you might think. I do sometimes wonder, though, if people say they're liberal just to fit in with the "intellectual elites" on this board.

DivergeUnify

I guess I must've missed the point in time when knowledge became a bad thing.

I don't care what his intention was, his implication was that an intellectual elite, one who is well-informed, is necessarily snobbish and thus intellectualism is a bad thing. It's an implication that has become very pervasive, and which I find particularly dispicable.

I guess I must've missed the point in time when knowledge became a bad thing.

theone86

There's no rule saying you have to be a snob if you're intelligent. Unfortunately a lot of that goes around on this forum.

What in black hell is an "intellectual elite" anyway? Theokhoth

Someone who thinks they're elite based on their intellect. I thought it was pretty obvious...

Alright, i want to know who voted center!:P Fess up!

I think he means a liberal.

theone86

The term applies to anybody, though I really only see liberals act that way.

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I guess I must've missed the point in time when knowledge became a bad thing.

airshocker

There's no rule saying you have to be a snob if you're intelligent. Unfortunately a lot of that goes around on this forum.

That's the implication you make when you level the charge of intellectual elitism being widespread. And I haven't found that to be the case, in fact I could name quite a few conservatives who act plenty snobbish. Regardless, your charge is anecdotal and carries absolutely no substance.

I'm a progressive, but I don't have patience for the idealistic progressives who except all kinds of sweeping liberal change in the course of a few years. Progressive change takes place over vast periods of time.

I don't care what his intention was, his implication was that an intellectual elite, one who is well-informed, is necessarily snobbish and thus intellectualism is a bad thing. It's an implication that has become very pervasive, and which I find particularly dispicable.

theone86

One is not intellectually elite if they're well-informed. One is intellectually elite when they rub their intelligence in other peoples faces.

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I think he means a liberal.

airshocker

The term applies to anybody, though I really only see liberals act that way.

I wonder why that is.

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I don't care what his intention was, his implication was that an intellectual elite, one who is well-informed, is necessarily snobbish and thus intellectualism is a bad thing. It's an implication that has become very pervasive, and which I find particularly dispicable.

airshocker

One is not intellectually elite if they're well-informed. One is intellectually elite when they rub their intelligence in other peoples faces.

And "rubbing their intelligence in other people's faces" is a completely subjective determination. If someone comes out and uses faulty facts or poor argumentation, is correcting their facts or argumentation rubbing their faces in it? It certainly seems so, because that's what I see far more often than not.

That's the implication you make when you level the charge of intellectual elitism being widespread. And I haven't found that to be the case, in fact I could name quite a few conservatives who act plenty snobbish. Regardless, your charge is anecdotal and carries absolutely no substance.

theone86

And I also said some conservatives act that way, but I've found that it's liberals who act that way the most.

You can believe whatever you want, though. :)

I put center because I'm libertarian.

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That's the implication you make when you level the charge of intellectual elitism being widespread. And I haven't found that to be the case, in fact I could name quite a few conservatives who act plenty snobbish. Regardless, your charge is anecdotal and carries absolutely no substance.

airshocker

And I also said some conservatives act that way, but I've found that it's liberals who act that way the most.

You can believe whatever you want, though. :)

And again, I wonder why a conservative would think that liberals act that way the most? Hmmmm...just can't think of a reason.

I put center because I'm libertarian.

cain006

And "rubbing their intelligence in other people's faces" is a completely subjective determination. If someone comes out and uses faulty facts or poor argumentation, is correcting their facts or argumentation rubbing their faces in it? It certainly seems so, because that's what I see far more often than not.

theone86

It is acting like a snob, though. Either way, there's nothing to correct. You're not going to change my opinion.

And again, I wonder why a conservative would think that liberals act that way the most? Hmmmm...just can't think of a reason.

theone86

It couldn't possibly be because he's seen it. No, that's just---no! :roll:

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And "rubbing their intelligence in other people's faces" is a completely subjective determination. If someone comes out and uses faulty facts or poor argumentation, is correcting their facts or argumentation rubbing their faces in it? It certainly seems so, because that's what I see far more often than not.

airshocker

It is acting like a snob, though. Either way, there's nothing to correct. You're not going to change my opinion.

No it is not. If I come out and say that the sky is purple then it is not snobbish for someone to correct me, and the fact that you count simple correction as snobbery just shows how faulty your judgement on this issue is.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

I don't care what his intention was, his implication was that an intellectual elite, one who is well-informed, is necessarily snobbish and thus intellectualism is a bad thing. It's an implication that has become very pervasive, and which I find particularly dispicable.

airshocker

One is not intellectually elite if they're well-informed. One is intellectually elite when they rub their intelligence in other peoples faces.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

And again, I wonder why a conservative would think that liberals act that way the most? Hmmmm...just can't think of a reason.

airshocker

It couldn't possibly be because he's seen it. No, that's just---no! :roll:

Yes, but he's not accounting for his own subjectivity.