Julius Caesar vs Sun Tzu

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#1 rockerbikie
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Julius Caesar:

VS

Sun Tzu

Who would lead their side to Victory and why?

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#2 Head_of_games
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Tzu literally wrote the book on war.
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#3 Cherokee_Jack
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Sun Tzu might not even have existed, so.
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Sun Tzu might not even have existed, so.Cherokee_Jack

Same with Julius Caesar

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#5 shoot-first
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Sun Tzu because he is a badass. Also, he has a beard.

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Genghis Khan is better than both in my opinion.

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Look at how pissed off that face looks.

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#7 Grandotaku
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My money is on Tzu.

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#8 rockerbikie
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Genghis Khan in my opinion.

ghghg

Look at how pissed off that face looks.

I dunno Caesar was a very accomplished General.
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#9 Vesica_Prime
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Genghis Khan in my opinion.

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Look at how pissed off that face looks.

rockerbikie

I dunno Caesar was a very accomplished General.

There's no denying that Caesar was an excellent general but Genghis Khan was such an accomplished general that he managed to conquer all of China and controlled Subotai the only general to ever successfully conquer all of Russia.

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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Sun Tzu might not even have existed, so.UserBane

Same with Julius Caesar

I think it's quite well-established that Julius Caesar existed...
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Sun Tzu. Many of his teachings are still important and still widely used today. Even in business. Julius Caesar, not so much. But you can't pick two great people and say who would win. It all depends on details, their armies, the lay out of the land, their knowledge of the land, etc.
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I dunno Caesar was a very accomplished General.rockerbikie
Who succumbed to a sharpened stick.  Details at eleven.
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Sun Tzu. Many of his teachings are still important and still widely used today. Even in business. Julius Caesar, not so much. But you can't pick two great people and say who would win. It all depends on details, their armies, the lay out of the land, their knowledge of the land, etc.Jaguar_Shade
Divide and conquer?

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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"]Sun Tzu. Many of his teachings are still important and still widely used today. Even in business. Julius Caesar, not so much. But you can't pick two great people and say who would win. It all depends on details, their armies, the lay out of the land, their knowledge of the land, etc.SuperSaiyanLink

Divide and conquer?

All part of the Tzusinator's master plan.
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Chinese armies of that period would have been able to turn Roman armies into confetti, so Tzu'd obviously win.

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[QUOTE="rockerbikie"]I dunno Caesar was a very accomplished General.Jaguar_Shade
Who succumbed to a sharpened stick.  Details at eleven.

Fear of a Bot Planet!!

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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

Sun Tzu. Many of his teachings are still important and still widely used today. Even in business. Julius Caesar, not so much. But you can't pick two great people and say who would win. It all depends on details, their armies, the lay out of the land, their knowledge of the land, etc.Jaguar_Shade
Divide and conquer?

All part of the Tzusinator's master plan.

Actually the principle of discpline in armies was based of Caesar.
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[QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]

[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"]Sun Tzu. Many of his teachings are still important and still widely used today. Even in business. Julius Caesar, not so much. But you can't pick two great people and say who would win. It all depends on details, their armies, the lay out of the land, their knowledge of the land, etc.Jaguar_Shade

Divide and conquer?

All part of the Tzusinator's master plan.

welp I ain't even mad.

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[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="SuperSaiyanLink"]Divide and conquer?

rockerbikie

All part of the Tzusinator's master plan.

Actually the principle of discpline in armies was based of Caesar.

Oh snap.

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#20 Jaguar_Shade
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Actually the principle of discpline in armies was based of Caesar.rockerbikie
No, it came from Asia. Cuz they used to rack a disciprin until they began an overhaul of the military. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RCpXMiLTA
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#21 Berkut666
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Genghis Khan would be the man for the job. Sun Tzu may have written the book, but Genghis read it, thought it was rubbish, and rode all over them both with his mounted archers.

Or maybe Alexander the great would be the boy for the job....

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Chinese had kung fu.
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Alexander III of Macedon...
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#25 comp_atkins
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Chinese had kung fu. th3warr1or
romans had swords and spears
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#26 deactivated-59d151f079814
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... Sun Tzu was a warrior philosopher, to my knowledge he did not lead a army.. So its a poor comparison.. Its impossible to argue who was the greater strategist... They were all good in their own ways.
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#27 Blaminator1221
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Hannibal Barca was a pretty awesome general too.
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Sun Tzu, because he has mod powers.
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I thought this was referring to the mod -Sun_Tzu- >_>
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#30 deactivated-590595a6292ce
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Sun Tzu...

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Caesar's military career completely outshines Tzu's. Tzu's claim to fame is a book, and even fact has been called into question.
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Caesar's military career completely outshines Tzu's. Tzu's claim to fame is a book, and even fact has been called into question. limpbizkit818
True. It still doesn't take away from the lessons of the book, but yes, you're right. Not to mention that Julius Caesar is my favorite general. Hell, the Roman Empire is my favorite empire ever.
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Asian soldiers were generally more skilled and disciplined. Their tactics were superior to Romans in many of their battles. While Romans had sophisticated formations, the Asians did more than just Arrow Barrage --> Light Infantry charge --> Cavalry charge in skirmishes.
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Caeser. I don't know why.

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Where and when.

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I'm gonna go with Caesar, for no other reason than Caesar's works are not quoted all the time by idiots.

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Since I know very little about the tactics and strategies of either individual (I read the Art of War a long time ago, but remember very little), then it is really impossible to say who would actually win if they were contemporary individuals. Considering Sun Tzu supposedly existed almost 500 years before Caesar, I'm going to have to say this is an impossible hypothetical, since militaristic technological means were neither similar between those periods or in those areas of the world.

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I don't know anything about Sun Tzu, but Ceasar doesn't impress me that much. I'm much more impressed with his political career.
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Asian soldiers were generally more skilled and disciplined. Their tactics were superior to Romans in many of their battles. While Romans had sophisticated formations, the Asians did more than just Arrow Barrage --> Light Infantry charge --> Cavalry charge in skirmishes. Adam_the_Nerd

Your ignorance is astounding.

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Gaius Julius Ceaser
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#41 Palantas
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Asian soldiers were generally more skilled and disciplined. Their tactics were superior to Romans in many of their battles. While Romans had sophisticated formations, the Asians did more than just Arrow Barrage --> Light Infantry charge --> Cavalry charge in skirmishes. Adam_the_Nerd

I'll be more polite about it than the other guy: Where are you getting this information?