Isn't gamespot in clear violation of the first amendment with it's tos?

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

Well would you really feel better if everyone trolled or just cursed in every post. Honestly man you need to grow up and if you cant do that then go somewhere else.

There shouldn't be an apostrophe in the word "its" in your title. :x

*walks over to door*

Nothing has binded you to this site....you do not like it, leave.

I see no problem with the TOS...have a little basic human decency and things will be fine. The only reason the mods are so strict is because kids generate a lot of traffic on this site.

No. The amendments apply to government not private entities.:|

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

Blackblade_Inc

And not everyone in the world practicespromotes first amendment..

[QUOTE="Blackblade_Inc"]

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

IndigoSunrise

Man, sometimes the level of legal knowledge of Americans really dumbfounds me. Gamespot is a private institution.Vandalvideo

TC, I agree with most everything you said, however as others have pointed out this is a private message board and CNET has the right to moderate as it does withint the ToU. I know the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint, but this isn't a First Amendment thing, man.

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] No but its a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.Vandalvideo

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

[QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] No but its a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] No but its a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] No but its a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.Omni-Slash

I demand a revolution Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] No but its a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.MAILER_DAEMON

HAHAHAHA try and stop me now!

USA! USA! USA! To arms men! To arms! The revolution will not be telivised!

I just remembered that South Park episode. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America. AcronymnsFTW

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

Blackblade_Inc

Uh...what?!

Gamespot hasn't ripped any of my freedoms from me. Before being allowed to post here, we all voluntarily agreed to a contract. We AGREED to follow the TOS in exchange for the ability to post here, and Gamespot has the right to suspend us accordingly. Apparently you don't know what free speech means, because this is anything BUT a first amendment issue.

Hey, when you're at work, do you think that you have the right to insult your customers without getting fired? Is THAT a violation of the first amendment as well?

It's a private site, not a public site. You have the right not to post on gamespot.AcronymnsFTW

[QUOTE="AcronymnsFTW"]I just remembered that South Park episode. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America. Wolls

[QUOTE="Blackblade_Inc"]

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

Uh...what?!

Gamespot hasn't ripped any of my freedoms from me. Before being allowed to post here, we all voluntarily agreed to a contract. We AGREED to follow the TOS in exchange for the ability to post here, and Gamespot has the right to suspend us accordingly. Apparently you don't know what free speech means, because this is anything BUT a first amendment issue.

Hey, when you're at work, do you think that you have the right to insult your customers without getting fired? Is THAT a violation of the first amendment as well?

I just remembered that South Park episode. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America.AcronymnsFTW

Why would we get so angry that there is no free speech? There's no reason to get angry about it, it is made clear when joining this site that you will not have free speech, and by agreeing with the TOU (which you cannot join until you do), you accept these terms.

Besides, the reasons for the rule are good, it helps keep this place safe, fun, and family friendly. If that is not what one desires, there are other game sites out there with no rules.

[QUOTE="Blackblade_Inc"]

Frankly surrendering full capacity of speech to a gaming site with such stringent policies is absurd. Although some of the rules provide utility in a minuscule view the majority are nothing more than a gag order imposed on the users of the site. Frankly, the quality of posts takes a severe plunge due to the restriction of opinion and free speech (much akin to a dictatorship) and this is easy to see if you compare activity prior to the revised restrictions. Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. The forum in a nutshell has simply degenerated into nothing more than adull lifeless overmoderated pool ofconversation. The lack of leaway is appalling and goes to show the ruthless nature of several moderators and administrators (some of whom may possibly suffer from inferiority complexes and will with no doubt take offense). Of course the very fact that a topic such as this has started means relatively nothing in the magnanimous face of cnet and it's respected affiliates, this thread will simply be locked (with no good reason mind you, despite the fact it's in off topic, and provides a source of intelligent conversation) I will be suspended (perhaps permanently, though honestly it's quite pointless with dynamic ip's these days) and the few who will voice an opinion will also be moderated. Thus in point showing that this site restricts all thought contrary to it's TOS and any criticismfor or againstit. So only one question remains, how can the American visitors of this site possibly relish the action of posting here when their freedoms are ripped from them by a faceless corporation? How can ANY people of free speech not just Americans mind you show no outrage to such a site? In addition, I should add that I simply wish to hear the opinions voiced by the sites visitors whether or not such a message board is constitutionally sound (unfortunately I've gone off tangent a few times, therefore the post is a little muddled, neverminding the fact this thread will be locked before any fruits can be harvested from it).

Uh...what?!

Gamespot hasn't ripped any of my freedoms from me. Before being allowed to post here, we all voluntarily agreed to a contract. We AGREED to follow the TOS in exchange for the ability to post here, and Gamespot has the right to suspend us accordingly. Apparently you don't know what free speech means, because this is anything BUT a first amendment issue.

Hey, when you're at work, do you think that you have the right to insult your customers without getting fired? Is THAT a violation of the first amendment as well?

[QUOTE="Wolls"][QUOTE="AcronymnsFTW"]I just remembered that South Park episode. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America. AcronymnsFTW

[QUOTE="AcronymnsFTW"]I just remembered that South Park episode. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America.Eddie5vs1

I was quoting Randy Marsh, read my original post, the first reply :)

[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="AcronymnsFTW"]I just remembered that South Park episode. Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America.AcronymnsFTW

I was quoting Randy Marsh, read my original post, the first reply :)

Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. Blackblade_Inc

I find the TOS vague and moderation prone to bias, just the same with each moderation or suspension I adjust the things I will or won't post accordingly, there are plenty of people here that are insightful or fun, if I think a topic is stupid or I have no input I just stay out of it.

Could you imagine the poo storm of negativity this place would become without any moderators? Just look at the nonsensical posts on youtube or foxsports and you may have a renewed appreciation for GS forums.

[QUOTE="Blackblade_Inc"]Honestly, im rather flabbergasted people even put up or bother posting at such an abomination of a message board. Second_Rook

I find the TOS vague and moderation prone to bias, just the same with each moderation or suspension I adjust the things I will or won't post accordingly, there are plenty of people here that are insightful or fun, if I think a topic is stupid or I have no input I just stay out of it.

Could you imagine the poo storm of negativity this place would become without any moderators? Just look at the nonsensical posts on youtube or foxsports and you may have a renewed appreciation for GS forums.

People from around the world can post here. Not everyone has a first ammendment. Thats the problem the government and large enterprises have with the internet. Controlling the internet would solve a lot of problems and annoyances for them.

People from around the world can post here. Not everyone has a first ammendment. Thats the problem the government and large enterprises have with the internet. Controlling the internet would solve a lot of problems and annoyances for them.

way2funny

I think it's a little ironic how you included corporations in that statement when we are, in fact, talking about a corporation that is successfully controlling their corner of the internet.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="IndigoSunrise"] No but its a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment.Omni-Slash

Nope, its not part of the government. The first ammendment does not grant you freedom of speech everywhere you go. You wouldnt let someone to come into your house and tell you youre an idiot and let them stay or continue.

Same exact thing.

But I do think if a corporation gets money from government, then constitutional rights should apply. Gamespot does get money from the government, because its owned by cbs. CBS gets a ton of corporate welfare.

As soon as I read that I knew somebody would say something about paragraphs:lol: Predictable huh:roll:

The internet isn't the United States, and this is a private website at that, so yes, Gamespot can restrict everything we say and do here.

God, this Topic makes americans look like retards.