Is there any hope left in America?

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#1 stevoqwerty
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Or am I mislead by your media?

It seems that the candidates for President are getting worse, and the country is going down with all these problems, I'll miss America.

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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Nothing to miss...the US isn't going anywhere.:|
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#3 ImaPirate0202
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This is a rather vague thread.

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#4 TaCoDuDe
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Nope. We're just all sitting around being miserable.

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#5 MAILER_DAEMON
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You're being mislead by the media, though a lot of people are discouraged by what's going on. Mostly the perceived problem is that everyone in Washington seems out of touch and shouldn't have ended up in this big of a money hole in the first place, the President is acting like a candidate now, and the Republicans don't seem to have anyone that people think would make a legitimately good President. Generally people are just getting on with life though. They're not as defeatist as the sensationalists with cameras would like to make the world think.
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#6 Verge_6
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Nope, we're all doomed. Just like when they predicted a second US depression that would be on the same scale as in 1929. Or that we'd be paying $8 a gallon by this time, back in 2006. Yup, the media knows how to tell it like it is, and is totally devoid of fear-mongering that relies on knee-jerk reactions.

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#7 Bloodseeker23
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Theres a lot of hope for America. There is always hope.
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#8 stevoqwerty
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You're being mislead by the media, though a lot of people are discouraged by what's going on. Mostly the perceived problem is that everyone in Washington seems out of touch and shouldn't have ended up in this big of a money hole in the first place, the President is acting like a candidate now, and the Republicans don't seem to have anyone that people think would make a legitimately good President. Generally people are just getting on with life though. They're not as defeatist as the sensationalists with cameras would like to make the world think.MAILER_DAEMON

Well let's hope it won't because I really want to move to Nashville, TN.

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#9 lloveLamp
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yes its gonna get a lot worse. but europe and australia is on a similar path. and america is still the home of homer simpson and mcdonalds
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#10 GazaAli
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Stop whining :roll:
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#11 xXTalismanXx
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No we'll still be here, but I don't think some "partiots" could handle us being number 2 from now on. We've had our run, now its time for someone else to step up to the plate and become the new self-appointed world leaders.

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#12 LJS9502_basic
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No we'll still be here, but I don't think some "partiots" could handle us being number 2 from now on. We've had our run, now its time for someone else to step up to the plate and become the new self-appointed world leaders.

xXTalismanXx
Not many countries out there I'd want to be that for humane reasons.....
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#13 mrbojangles25
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lol I was not aware we were going anywhere...

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You're being mislead by the media, though a lot of people are discouraged by what's going on. Mostly the perceived problem is that everyone in Washington seems out of touch and shouldn't have ended up in this big of a money hole in the first place, the President is acting like a candidate now, and the Republicans don't seem to have anyone that people think would make a legitimately good President. Generally people are just getting on with life though. They're not as defeatist as the sensationalists with cameras would like to make the world think.MAILER_DAEMON

pretty much this.

I really do not understand why the media needs to be so cynical, pessimistic, and sensationalist. I guess it sells?

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#15 Barbariser
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Like all countries in the world, people remember the good things about the past and focus on the bad things in the present. The U.S. standard of living could be shooting up like a rocket and you would still have people reminiscing about the good old days where people were apparently honest, friendly and moral, like World War 2.

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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]You're being mislead by the media, though a lot of people are discouraged by what's going on. Mostly the perceived problem is that everyone in Washington seems out of touch and shouldn't have ended up in this big of a money hole in the first place, the President is acting like a candidate now, and the Republicans don't seem to have anyone that people think would make a legitimately good President. Generally people are just getting on with life though. They're not as defeatist as the sensationalists with cameras would like to make the world think.stevoqwerty

Well let's hope it won't because I really want to move to Nashville, TN.

Massive stab in the dark, but I am going to assume that is due to the lovely Miss Taylor Swift?
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#17 worlock77
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yes its gonna get a lot worse. but europe and australia is on a similar path. and america is still the home of homer simpson and mcdonaldslloveLamp

That's certainly something we can take pride in.

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#18 xXTalismanXx
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[QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

No we'll still be here, but I don't think some "patriots" could handle us being number 2 from now on. We've had our run, now its time for someone else to step up to the plate and become the new self-appointed world leaders.

LJS9502_basic

Not many countries out there I'd want to be that for humane reasons.....

I agree with you there, but it seems to me about 10 minutes to midnight for America. I really hope we're given second chance.

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#19 worlock77
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I'm sure there was a time when people thought Britian was doomed, it's still chugging along alright though.

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#20 FFCYAN
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I really do not understand why the media needs to be so cynical, pessimistic, and sensationalist. I guess it sells?

mrbojangles25

I don't think they are pessimistic enough actually. Well, from the crap Yahoo has on their front page anyways. Most of the media is obsessed with celebrity and Sarah Palin's every move and bowel movement.

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#21 DivergeUnify
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The US has already entered gravitational field of the Black Hole of Implosion
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#22 stevoqwerty
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[QUOTE="stevoqwerty"]

[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]You're being mislead by the media, though a lot of people are discouraged by what's going on. Mostly the perceived problem is that everyone in Washington seems out of touch and shouldn't have ended up in this big of a money hole in the first place, the President is acting like a candidate now, and the Republicans don't seem to have anyone that people think would make a legitimately good President. Generally people are just getting on with life though. They're not as defeatist as the sensationalists with cameras would like to make the world think.chaoscougar1

Well let's hope it won't because I really want to move to Nashville, TN.

Massive stab in the dark, but I am going to assume that is due to the lovely Miss Taylor Swift?

How did you... it's the sig, right?

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#23 XiaolinPrincess
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I'm an American and I see no hope. After I finish schooling, I am on the next plane out of this country.
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#24 GazaAli
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I'm an American and I see no hope. After I finish schooling, I am on the next plane out of this country.XiaolinPrincess
Where exactly?
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[QUOTE="XiaolinPrincess"]I'm an American and I see no hope. After I finish schooling, I am on the next plane out of this country.GazaAli
Where exactly?

Zimbabwe, I have heard their economy is thriving
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#26 ionusX
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well i live just north of the border.. when it falls off the map ill be sure to let you know which way it circles the drain mmk :P

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[QUOTE="XiaolinPrincess"]I'm an American and I see no hope. After I finish schooling, I am on the next plane out of this country.GazaAli
Where exactly?

Come to the land down under, Christmas in summer time is how we roll. Though I do miss those cold Christmas, that's also one of the main reason why I want to move to Nashville.

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#28 PcGamingRig
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Or am I mislead by your media?

It seems that the candidates for President are getting worse, and the country is going down with all these problems, I'll miss America.

stevoqwerty

pretty much the same as every country.

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#29 drokmore
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Man dont sweat it, if you look at history, the politics of the us were crazy with massive bipartisanship way more intense then now, candidates that were corrupt (even more so then now), theres always a war on in general, so Id say nothing has really changed except we have so many media outlets and up to the second knowledge of this junk where in the past they were more ignorant. I see hope in people anyway everyday, thats were a true countries spirit is.
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#30 kuraimen
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I don't think the US will dissapear, it will just become less relevant. Although some of the problems are worrying like the increasing gap between rich and poor which basically hints that the standard of living in the US will probably decrease quite a bit and I don't think americans will take that kindly. Although they will probably overcome it and achieve a more stable society eventually. The truth is the capitalist/democratic model the US has promoted is a failure and the world is starting to realize that, sooner or later there are going to be some big changes... for the good hopefully.
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We'll go the way of Great Britain. Still around but less relevant.

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#32 BuryMe
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Nothing to miss...the US isn't going anywhere.:|LJS9502_basic
Yes it is...

It's drifting west.

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No we'll still be here, but I don't think some "partiots" could handle us being number 2 from now on. We've had our run, now its time for someone else to step up to the plate and become the new self-appointed world leaders.

xXTalismanXx

You'd be comfortable with China being number one? We have our problems, but we don't even compare to how crummy China is.

And the European Union can't even take care of it's own nations, what do you want them to do with the world?

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#34 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I really do not understand why the media needs to be so cynical, pessimistic, and sensationalist. I guess it sells?

FFCYAN

I don't think they are pessimistic enough actually. Well, from the crap Yahoo has on their front page anyways. Most of the media is obsessed with celebrity and Sarah Palin's every move and bowel movement.

being told the world is a horrible place and we should be scared of it every 10 minutes is not negative enough for you?

:shock:

damn

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Man, even French trolls are invading OT! THERE IS NO MOAR HOPEEEEE
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#36 tocool340
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US won't disappear, but rather it will ever recover and get out of debt or not is another story.....
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#37 deactivated-59d151f079814
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This is the 21st century.. There should never be a "self appointed" leader of the world.. We are all interconnected economically in one way or the other for all the developed world.. US foriegn policy is a relic of the 20th century.. Continuing policies that were done during the Cold War and are not needed any more.. The US does not need 9 aircraft carriers when the closest "threat" there is, is a bunch of gurrilla groups.. This was only seen as relevant when the USSR was seen as a threat, and another military super power..
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#38 xXTalismanXx
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No we'll still be here, but I don't think some "partiots" could handle us being number 2 from now on. We've had our run, now its time for someone else to step up to the plate and become the new self-appointed world leaders.

airshocker

You'd be comfortable with China being number one? We have our problems, but we don't even compare to how crummy China is.

And the European Union can't even take care of it's own nations, what do you want them to do with the world?

No I would'nt, but It happens to every superpower in the world. Rome, Spain, Great Britain etc. Its sad to say it, but I think its almost time. Because we have 435 angendas' in the house and none them want to work together to remedy the economy, we'll be heading straight down that path with no bumps on the road whatsoever.

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#39 HexedPelican
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America is going no where, we are just in a slump.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="xXTalismanXx"]

No we'll still be here, but I don't think some "patriots" could handle us being number 2 from now on. We've had our run, now its time for someone else to step up to the plate and become the new self-appointed world leaders.

xXTalismanXx

Not many countries out there I'd want to be that for humane reasons.....

I agree with you there, but it seems to me about 10 minutes to midnight for America. I really hope we're given second chance.

At least its not two minutes to midnight

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#41 gijooo
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lol theres always something going on with these guys,but as long as it doesn't effect me, im good to go

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#42 FFCYAN
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[QUOTE="FFCYAN"]

[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

I really do not understand why the media needs to be so cynical, pessimistic, and sensationalist. I guess it sells?

mrbojangles25

I don't think they are pessimistic enough actually. Well, from the crap Yahoo has on their front page anyways. Most of the media is obsessed with celebrity and Sarah Palin's every move and bowel movement.

being told the world is a horrible place and we should be scared of it every 10 minutes is not negative enough for you?

:shock:

damn

Life isn't a crystal box of roses and sunshine. I don't take the media's every word in the first place. They can't be trusted.

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#43 attorihanzo
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You'd be comfortable with China being number one? We have our problems, but we don't even compare to how crummy China is.

airshocker

No one said they're going to be the best place to live, just that they will have the larger economy and military. Does not matter how crummy they are.

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There is plenty of hope and contrary to what the fear mongering media would like you to believe, there actually are positive things still happening in the world.

Of course those positive things aren't sensational and don't make for good television commercial lead in material so they just get swept under the rug. I mean if it isn't going to further the "scare people back into their homes" agenda why would they bother talking about it?

The media, regardless of which "wing" you are from are nothing more than negativity cultivating blowhards who would sooner lie to your face than tell the truth in the event that the lie was more news worthy.

Want to inject some positivity and "hope" back into your life? Turn the ****ing TV off.

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#45 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

You'd be comfortable with China being number one? We have our problems, but we don't even compare to how crummy China is.

attorihanzo

No one said they're going to be the best place to live, just that they will have the larger economy and military. Does not matter how crummy they are.

I'm not sure why everyone says this. For one thing their economy is intertwined with other countries like the US. And bigger military in terms of number of bodies? Not necessarily the most effective....
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#46 attorihanzo
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[QUOTE="attorihanzo"]

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

You'd be comfortable with China being number one? We have our problems, but we don't even compare to how crummy China is.

LJS9502_basic

No one said they're going to be the best place to live, just that they will have the larger economy and military. Does not matter how crummy they are.

I'm not sure why everyone says this. For one thing their economy is intertwined with other countries like the US. And bigger military in terms of number of bodies? Not necessarily the most effective....

Of course they're connected to the world economy they'll just have the largest share of it and also i didn't say anything about a bigger military being more effective i doubt China will get involved in large scale conflicts anyway.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="attorihanzo"]

No one said they're going to be the best place to live, just that they will have the larger economy and military. Does not matter how crummy they are.

attorihanzo

I'm not sure why everyone says this. For one thing their economy is intertwined with other countries like the US. And bigger military in terms of number of bodies? Not necessarily the most effective....

Of course they're connected to the world economy they'll just have the largest share of it and also i didn't say anything about a bigger military being more effective i doubt China will get involved in large scale conflicts anyway.

Yeah but when it's a global economy...it can't be credited to only one country.
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This isn't even close to the worst period of political leadership the United States has ever had.

Even the worst president of the past 20 years, no matter who your political views lead you to think that is, is a better president than the best president of the Gilded Age/Post-Reconstruction era.

This country goes through cycles where political leadership seems completely absent. This is just the ass end of one of those.

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#49 Bucked20
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I keep hearing people say they want America back,I still don't know what the hell they mean by that
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#50 shemrom
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Unfortunately I am starting to lose hope.

It's not focus solely on our government but rather America and the world as whole.

Gas is up, Food is up, pricing on pretty much on the standers of living is up...way up from back in the day.

Everything is becoming more costly, and our paychecks income is decreasing with more of our hard work money going to pay for bills that are still increasing their prices.

Remember back in the day, where parents could actually pay out of pocket to get their sons to collage. Milk and break was like 25cents and gas was at like 1 dollar a gallon and such and people could buy their own homes after leaving out on their own for the first time with ease, and actually get good jobs. My bothers would most likely be dishwashers and servers for quite some time because it cost so much money to go to a school to get training for a job they might want to try.

Rent must have been very cheap back then too.

The riots in the Middle East are fuel by many things, but the cost of living there is one of the main focus factors. China going to have a very big meltdown with its housing renting apartment market soon, and North Korea having a major food shorted. Acutely food shortages is rather getting larger, and where their shortages, there's price increases. With all the natural disasters were having here in the states, FEMA starting to run out of money, and if we get another event like Katrina, there will be no way we could pay for costs and repairs for another destroy city.

Ehh, the world outcome isn't looking good, at least for me....yet i still keep optimist that they will eventfully get their crap together and do the right things before something of a global catastrophe happen(ECT: WarWorld 3)