Is The Muslim Religion REALLY Peaceful?

I don't know much about it really. But I've flipped through the Koran before, and it doesn't seem peaceful to me. So, are peaceful muslims doing it wrong?

I doubt that they WANT suicide bombing in the Koran, but like I said, I don't know much.

Yes, it really is peaceful if you actually take time to understand some of it and not just read it. There's no way you can claim that Islam is inherently more violent than any other.

I don't know much about it really. But I've flipped through the Koran before, and it doesn't seem peaceful to me. So, are peaceful muslims doing it wrong?

dunl12496

I stopped reading there.

Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

It's just as peaceful and as violent as the Christian holy book

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I don't know much about it really. But I've flipped through the Koran before, and it doesn't seem peaceful to me. So, are peaceful muslims doing it wrong?

DarthJohnova

I stopped reading there.

Why would him admitting that he doesn't know much about Islam while asking for somewhat of a clearer understanding of it put you off from the rest? Are you really that full of yourself?

The Qur'an in no more violent than the Bible is.clayron

Yes, but the bible changed in the new testament. Murder and other stuff is no longer accepted. Plus, a big thing is obey the law over all but God.

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I don't know much about it really. But I've flipped through the Koran before, and it doesn't seem peaceful to me. So, are peaceful muslims doing it wrong?

DarthJohnova

I stopped reading there.

Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

raynimrod

This makes me skeptical over the tc's intentions on "learning" more about the religion.

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I stopped reading there.

thattotally

Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

raynimrod

This makes me skeptical over the tc's intentions on "learning" more about the religion.

Because this is about the koran itself, not the people. Christianity almost NEVER represents what's in the bible anymore. So many false things.

Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

raynimrod

Does it really matter how he labels it if you know what he means? Besides, he said he doesn't know much about the religion, so that should've answered your question before even asking. No?

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Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

dunl12496

This makes me skeptical over the tc's intentions on "learning" more about the religion.

Because this is about the koran itself, not the people. Christianity almost NEVER represents what's in the bible anymore. So many false things.

And he [Elisha] went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them. 2 Kings 2:23-24

[QUOTE="clayron"]The Qur'an in no more violent than the Bible is.dunl12496

Yes, but the bible changed in the new testament. Murder and other stuff is no longer accepted. Plus, a big thing is obey the law over all but God.

A guy walks in and claims to be the son of God, and then gets pissed off. That'd scare the f*** out of me. Especially with God's track record of not taking any s***

It's just as peaceful and as violent as the Christian holy book

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I don't know much about it really. But I've flipped through the Koran before, and it doesn't seem peaceful to me. So, are peaceful muslims doing it wrong?

_R34LiTY_

I stopped reading there.

Why would him admitting that he doesn't know much about Islam while asking for somewhat of a clearer understanding of it put you off from the rest? Are you really that full of yourself?

you mean Islam :/

The dogma itself is, but the followers aren't always peaceful-- that's true for many different religions. To learn about a religion, the best way is to look at what its holy book says. I wouldn't look to the Westboro Baptist church as an accurate representation of Christianity because I know that the New Testament adamantly opposes what they do. In the same way, it's not fair to base Islam on what you see on the news all the time. There is some violent stuff in the Qur'an, but if you look at the context, you'll find that Muhammad [p.b.u.h] and his followers suffered a lot of persecution at the hands of the pagan rulers.

Muhammad's people were taught to fight if it's absolutely necessary, but Muhammad [p.b.u.h] stressed that you should stop fighting if the opposition surrenders. Not to sound like a broken record, but it's better to go to the source [the Qur'an] to find out that Islam only advises violence in a time where there's no other choice. The Qur'an says in Surah 5 that if you were to murder someone, it would be as if you murdered all of humanity.

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Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

_R34LiTY_

Does it really matter how he labels it if you know what he means? Besides, he said he doesn't know much about the religion, so that should've answered your question before even asking. No?

You expect me to assume he's really that ignorant? We're talking about one of the biggest religions in the world - its name is pretty bloody obvious, even without knowing about its inner workings and teachings.

Muslim extremists are the minority. Most Muslims desire peace.

The dogma itself is, but the followersaren't always peaceful-- that's true for many different religions. To learn about a religion, the best way is to look at what its holy book says. I wouldn't look to the Westboro Baptist church as an accurate representation of Christianity because I know that the New Testament adamantly opposes what they do. In the same way, it's not fair to base Islam on what you see on the news all the time. There is some violent stuff in the Qur'an, but if you look at the context, you'll find that Muhammad [p.b.u.h] and his followers suffered a lot of persecution at the hands of the pagan rulers.

Muhammad's people were taught to fight if it's absolutely necessary, but Muhammad [p.b.u.h] stressed that you should stop fighting if the opposition surrenders. Not to sound like a broken record, but it's better to go to the source [the Qur'an] to find out that Islam only advises violence in a time where there's no other choice. The Qur'an says in Surah 5 that if you were to murder someone, it would be as if you murdered all of humanity.

dracula_16

Whoa, hold on, have you converted? I noticed the "peace be upon him", but I distinctly remember you being atheist.

If so, that's really cool.

EDIT: Ok yeah, I read your blog, I'm good at picking up on things like that.

Things like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquistion, and the Salem Witch Trials puts the bodycount made by extremist Christians far above that made by extremist Muslims.

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Why are you saying "the Muslim religion" instead of Islam?

raynimrod

Does it really matter how he labels it if you know what he means? Besides, he said he doesn't know much about the religion, so that should've answered your question before even asking. No?

You expect me to assume he's really that ignorant? We're talking about one of the biggest religions in the world - its name is pretty bloody obvious, even without knowing about its inner workings and teachings.

I guess that because this is OT, the usual assumption is that someone is trying to sarcastically ask for help in understanding just to have people catch themselves in admitting how violent a particular religion can come off as thanks to some nutjobs. But does it ALWAYS have to be that kind of lame assumption? No one is ever genuinely asking for genuine understanding/help here in OT, right?

From very personal experience, i can say that Islam encourages violence far more than it does peace.

From very personal experience, i can say that Islam encourages violence far more than it does peace.

Videodogg

im not sure that true muslims are allowed to be peaceful if they really follow what the koran teaches

From very personal experience, i can say that Islam encourages violence far more than it does peace.

Videodogg

Things like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquistion, and the Salem Witch Trials puts the bodycount made by extremist Christians far above that made by extremist Muslims.

nervmeister

Uhhh..no it doesn't, not even close.

How can Islam be peaceful if so many people that practice it are so violent? (etc. 9/11, brutal beheadings, murders, suicide bombings, need I go on?)

halo1399

The number of non-violent Muslims outnumber the violent ones by quite a bit.

How can Islam be peaceful if so many people that practice it are so violent? (etc. 9/11, brutal beheadings, murders, suicide bombings, need I go on?)

halo1399

How many of them out of 1.5 billion?

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Things like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquistion, and the Salem Witch Trials puts the bodycount made by extremist Christians far above that made by extremist Muslims.

halo1399

Uhhh..no it doesn't, not even close.

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Does it really matter how he labels it if you know what he means? Besides, he said he doesn't know much about the religion, so that should've answered your question before even asking. No?

_R34LiTY_

You expect me to assume he's really that ignorant? We're talking about one of the biggest religions in the world - its name is pretty bloody obvious, even without knowing about its inner workings and teachings.

I guess that because this is OT, the usual assumption is that someone is trying to sarcastically ask for help in understanding just to have people catch themselves in admitting how violent a particular religion can come off as thanks to some nutjobs. But does it ALWAYS have to be that kind of lame assumption? No one is ever genuinely asking for genuine understanding/help here in OT, right?

My question had nothing to do with that, nor did it make that assumption. Sure, he could be legitimately asking whether Islam is a peaceful religion - I never said anything to the contrary.

What I asked was, why he didn't use the name of the religion. Instead, he said something to the effect of "is the Jew religion bad", rather than "is Judaism bad". The question of ignorance related to not knowing the name of one of the biggest religions in the world.

I don't know much about it really. But I've flipped through the Koran before, and it doesn't seem peaceful to me. So, are peaceful muslims doing it wrong?

dunl12496

Any religion is as peaceful or violent as it's followers are.Saying that extremist Islam followers are cuuting a very sorry picture indeed.They may be the minority but even the peace lovin' majority are not totally free of age-old prujudices irrespective of their degree of education.They still love to keep their women in veil,for crying out loud.And the general degree of intolerance shown by Islam followers towrads other religions is also greater in areas where Muslims are the majority.

I've read both the Bible and the Qur'an and I can say that Islam's holy text is no more violent than Christianity's holy text (perhaps less so, when considering context), and is on the whole actually more liberal than the Bible is.

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This makes me skeptical over the tc's intentions on "learning" more about the religion.

Ace6301

Because this is about the koran itself, not the people. Christianity almost NEVER represents what's in the bible anymore. So many false things.

Yes, because that's true. You can repent though.

If you bothered to read the Quoran, you'd know much more..instead of trying to start foolish flame wars..Deihjan

I'm not trying to start something! Can I just ask a flipping question?

The Koran has pretty specific rules for muslims to defend themselves. I believe Christianity states that hurting people under any circumstance is wrong (even defense). Still many Christians find ways to justify violence beyond their religion just like many muslims do.

Is the Christian religion REALLY peaceful? Jawsus_

No religion is peaceful because of the men that run them. Men is the primary cause of evil in this world and they should just be gone or something. Princesswookie