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It is the science of the mind. The rest of the things you mention dont apply.
Theres nothing wrong about organizing and labeling the things that can be correctly identified. Classifying people's races as "caucasian," "German," "African-American," or "Aborginal" is not condescending. Neither is classyfing someone who does, in fact, have a disorder.
And no, the criteria for a disorder are pretty specific. Someone who sees visual an auditory hallucinations is a schizophrenic and theres no way to stretch that definition to someone who is healthy.
Being classified or actually having a disorder doesn't mean a person is crazy, or even unhealthy.
When you take into account psychiatric drugs and treatment for said disorders, pretty much.
"Bipolar? We don't know what causes it, but here, take these drugs that were designed to treat schizophrenia and epilepsy and hope for the best."
It absolutely elitist and vile to classify people by race. I would argue by gender as well but I might lose that debate. We are all human and bleed red... I disagree, the criteria is not specific really, it is just condescending and elitist to label others as disordered and inferior.It is the science of the mind. The rest of the things you mention dont apply.
Theres nothing wrong about organizing and labeling the things that can be correctly identified. Classifying people's races as "caucasian," "German," "African-American," or "Aborginal" is not condescending. Neither is classyfing someone who does, in fact, have a disorder.
And no, the criteria for a disorder are pretty specific. Someone who sees visual an auditory hallucinations is a schizophrenic and theres no way to stretch that definition to someone who is healthy.
Being classified or actually having a disorder doesn't mean a person is crazy, or even unhealthy.
XaosII
I don't understand why the distinction between hard sciences and soft sciences even matters.No, but it's not a hard science either.
Niff_T
[QUOTE="XaosII"]It absolutely elitist and vile to classify people by race. I would argue by gender as well but I might lose that debate. We are all human and bleed red... I disagree, the criteria is not specific really, it is just condescending and elitist to label others as disordered and inferior. How is it vile and elitist to classify races? (Assuming there is no set of values attached)It is the science of the mind. The rest of the things you mention dont apply.
Theres nothing wrong about organizing and labeling the things that can be correctly identified. Classifying people's races as "caucasian," "German," "African-American," or "Aborginal" is not condescending. Neither is classyfing someone who does, in fact, have a disorder.
And no, the criteria for a disorder are pretty specific. Someone who sees visual an auditory hallucinations is a schizophrenic and theres no way to stretch that definition to someone who is healthy.
Being classified or actually having a disorder doesn't mean a person is crazy, or even unhealthy.
silly_pants
[QUOTE="silly_pants"][QUOTE="XaosII"]It absolutely elitist and vile to classify people by race. I would argue by gender as well but I might lose that debate. We are all human and bleed red... I disagree, the criteria is not specific really, it is just condescending and elitist to label others as disordered and inferior. How is it vile and elitist to classify races? (Assuming there is no set of values attached) Because we are the human race... Race is largely a social construct, that crap by the nazis was proven false.It is the science of the mind. The rest of the things you mention dont apply.
Theres nothing wrong about organizing and labeling the things that can be correctly identified. Classifying people's races as "caucasian," "German," "African-American," or "Aborginal" is not condescending. Neither is classyfing someone who does, in fact, have a disorder.
And no, the criteria for a disorder are pretty specific. Someone who sees visual an auditory hallucinations is a schizophrenic and theres no way to stretch that definition to someone who is healthy.
Being classified or actually having a disorder doesn't mean a person is crazy, or even unhealthy.
Ring_of_fire
Study it and find out.BranKetraAlready studied general psychology and abhorred the blatant condescension and elitism found in the text.
[QUOTE="Niff_T"]I don't understand why the distinction between hard sciences and soft sciences even matters.No, but it's not a hard science either.
ghoklebutter
Methodologies.
Seriously as someone who has taken psychology... And done a decent job, not well mind you but decent enough to pass. I am not really good at academia or born with the intellectual gift but I digress. I mean it is the science of the mind, science of labels and condescension. Every message board I go to or have gone to show it to be one. Everyone throws around diagnosing people they dislike with disorders, in my view psychology is used as a club by those in power, or those who hold certain oratory, or intellectual gifts to denegrate humans deemed inferior. Further proof is how these terms are thrown around in a negative connotation and the criteria for each so called "disorder" are so broad that everyone pretty much can be designated to one.silly_pants
lol
"I don't know how to think, but what do you think about this half baked idea?"
[QUOTE="silly_pants"][QUOTE="BranKetra"]Study it and find out.BranKetraAlready studied general psychology and abhorred the blatant condescension and elitism found in the text. I view the snobby attitude of the academic community as a whole with disdain. Same, although I concede part of it is because I suck...
Well disorders can be applied to almost anyone because most people are pretty messed up. dkdk999Or maybe noone is messed up. Maybe we are all humans with different minds but not disordered.
[QUOTE="dkdk999"]Well disorders can be applied to almost anyone because most people are pretty messed up. silly_pantsOr maybe noone is messed up. Maybe we are all humans with different minds but not disordered.
Sooooo, what's the point of any scientific study of the human mind? Should we all just assume everybody is hunky-dory and not even question when some guy says an invisable talking dog is telling them to burn people? All you are doing is arguing symantics. "Disorder" is just a term used to define a specific type of "difference", it has no inherent value judgement.
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